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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-10-25, 17:37
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horrible first time acid
last night, I went against my friends promise that i wouldnt drop, and took 2 blotteres anyways, but I was alone in my room the whole time to trip till morning. but those 2 blotters absolutely shattered my reality but I just felt this general all over discomfort the whole time except for the beginning which was filled with absolutely mindblowing visuals, this visuals were absolutely amazing, crazy colored gemotric structures, watching tv made no sense at all it was all alien gibberish with peoples faces severally breahting all over and distorting, all this sensory information and nothing to do with it, I just kept walking around putting this in random places just trying to make any sense at all of what the fuck was happening, i just lost all sense of everything, all I had was this pressure in my head and this surge of thought, i guess it was called ego loss? I dont know, but it became so intense that everything lost ALL meaning, and i kept having these wierd thoughts trying to figure out a way to feel better but i just had a general discomforting experience, especially since i did it at night, I just wanted to freaking sleep. it wasnt a scary trip to hell but i felt very uncomfertable the whole time and absolutely was out of my mind, nothing made sense and I had absloutely no linear thought process, and i knew this was all from a drug but i couldnt escape the shitty feelings. totse what am i suppose to do, i feel fine now kinda of, it just makes me feel awful to think about it
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 2008-10-25, 17:41
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Re: horrible first time acid
you learned a lesson.
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#3
 2008-10-25, 17:42
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Re: horrible first time acid
I love ego death, though I've only truly experienced it twice. Maybe you're just not ready to be delving into psychedelics, especially alone
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#4
 2008-10-25, 17:49
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Re: horrible first time acid
Take a break, re-collect from the experience, conclude why it went the way it did and what you want to do differently.
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#5
 2008-10-25, 17:52
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Re: horrible first time acid
yeah i learned one hell of a lesson, and im paying it off now. im telling everyone all my lies and shit. its horrible. but its like, as bad as it was, it shook me in the right direction.
I just dont know how to describe it, EVERYTHING LOST MEANING. i coudlnt follow any linear thought process AT ALL. i just kept having little side trips or dreams or whatever inside dreams inside dreams. i felt absolutely 100 percent insane. i knew it was a drug so i dont feel disconnected from reality right now or anything like hppd, but its like it still was so uncomfortable. i was watching the tv and everything was distorted, peoples faces, tracers, meshing together. ahh it was madness. i wasnt even myself, i was viewing everything as an alien thats never been to earth before, but just somewhere in my mind was still me, and so trying to comphrend stuff having meaning and no meaning at the same time just was like WTF. im just shooken up really badly but pushed in a direction that should positively effect my life. getting organized, quitting drugs, telling people ive lied to about drugs etc. this was just so awful =/
cause im still tripping a little bit now but ive calmed down cause i coudnt take it anymore and took 2 lunestas to force me to fall asleep. so i still feel somewhat high still but definitly sane, which is a good feeling, i just feel guilty cause i lied to my friend. but this pushed me to stop lying at all to anyone ever.
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#6
 2008-10-25, 18:03
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Re: horrible first time acid
whoa, whoa, son, slow down a little bit. Stop. Start using periods and tells us whats wrong.
Child, dont fuck with drugs.
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#7
 2008-10-25, 18:16
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Re: horrible first time acid
lol im sorry. I just need to come to terms with the things that my bad trip showed me. ive been lying to my girlfriend about my drug use and now i feel absolutely compelled to tell her and quit drugs like i was suppose to since we started going out. and i lied to my friend and said i wouldnt take the acid last night but I did anyways which just guilt tripped me the whole time, but I could have shared him a blotter and we coulda done it although both alone in each others houses, we coulda talked on the net and stuff. I just need some advice from experienced psych members, I just feel so shooken up =/
im done with drugs for now, I need to reorganize my life.
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#8
 2008-10-25, 18:42
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Re: horrible first time acid
i had a trip like this on a high dose of shrooms. i went to this thing called rock and bowl, where they turn off the lights and have all kinds of strobe lights and black lights and really loud music. after a few hours i was begging my friends to take me home, eventually someone did, and i was laying in my bed and felt exactly like you were describing. Life itself didn't make sense. Looking back it was an amazing trip that really changed me for the better, just a little scary at the time.
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#9
 2008-10-25, 19:17
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im done with drugs for now, I need to reorganize my life.
Yeah, welcome to falling out of the drug scene, it'll take time, but you'll be back.
They'll all be back.....
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#10
 2008-10-25, 20:16
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Re: horrible first time acid
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lol im sorry. I just need to come to terms with the things that my bad trip showed me. ive been lying to my girlfriend about my drug use and now i feel absolutely compelled to tell her and quit drugs like i was suppose to since we started going out. and i lied to my friend and said i wouldnt take the acid last night but I did anyways which just guilt tripped me the whole time, but I could have shared him a blotter and we coulda done it although both alone in each others houses, we coulda talked on the net and stuff. I just need some advice from experienced psych members, I just feel so shooken up =/
im done with drugs for now, I need to reorganize my life.
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Stop being a pussy.
You had a bad trip, get over it. It happens to the best of us, your not the only one; the only thing you can do is either learn from the experience and/or just keep going at it. If you stop after the first bad trip IMO you are not ready to handle psychadelics at all, period. You use psychs to learn about yourself and the world, and thats just exactly what happend. It may seem like a big deal now, but you'll get over it as time passes. No need to make irrational decisions
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#11
 2008-10-25, 21:24
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Re: horrible first time acid
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Bong
last night, I went against my friends promise that i wouldnt drop, and took 2 blotteres anyways, but I was alone in my room the whole time to trip till morning. but those 2 blotters absolutely shattered my reality but I just felt this general all over discomfort the whole time except for the beginning which was filled with absolutely mindblowing visuals, this visuals were absolutely amazing, crazy colored gemotric structures, watching tv made no sense at all it was all alien gibberish with peoples faces severally breahting all over and distorting, all this sensory information and nothing to do with it, I just kept walking around putting this in random places just trying to make any sense at all of what the fuck was happening, i just lost all sense of everything, all I had was this pressure in my head and this surge of thought, i guess it was called ego loss? I dont know, but it became so intense that everything lost ALL meaning, and i kept having these wierd thoughts trying to figure out a way to feel better but i just had a general discomforting experience, especially since i did it at night, I just wanted to freaking sleep. it wasnt a scary trip to hell but i felt very uncomfertable the whole time and absolutely was out of my mind, nothing made sense and I had absloutely no linear thought process, and i knew this was all from a drug but i couldnt escape the shitty feelings. totse what am i suppose to do, i feel fine now kinda of, it just makes me feel awful to think about it
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you learned that your mind is weak.
Sucks for you bro.
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#12
 2008-10-25, 21:29
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Re: horrible first time acid
Stop being a pussy.
You had a bad trip, get over it. It happens to the best of us, your not the only one; the only thing you can do is either learn from the experience and/or just keep going at it. If you stop after the first bad trip IMO you are not ready to handle psychadelics at all, period. You use psychs to learn about yourself and the world, and thats just exactly what happend. It may seem like a big deal now, but you'll get over it as time passes. No need to make irrational decisions
Yeah I guess youre right I was just still flipping out when I created this topic, but the horrible dysphoria is gone now and I feel totally fine, and I did learn from the experience, im gonna utilize what it showed me, fix the problems, and give it another go in the future with a much better set and setting.
you learned that your mind is weak.
Sucks for you bro.
nah, I just had a really bad set and setting. Guilty for lying to my friend put me in a bad mood, and I was stuck in my dirty smelly dark room the whole time with a bunch of weed and my bong, but I couldnt understand why I was so compelled to do weed, it had no meaning so every time I tried to light up I just tripped out in my own thoughts questioning why I was even smoking, while staring blankly at the bong in my hand. lol. now that I come to realize it, in retrospect, Ive come out fine, I was just amazingly dysphoric during the whole trip, but I still learned alot about myself and had some trippy visuals and ideas. And the way people look in movies on acid is so strange, their eyes and mouths and faces jiggle and blend its so wierd. the fractals and amazingly cliche psychedelic transforming colors in the beginning amazed me too. and the whole time my brain was flowing with a singular never ending stream of thought. pretty mind blowing.
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#13
 2008-10-25, 21:38
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Re: horrible first time acid
Should have went outside. Tripping on acid indoors sucks balls. At least for me it does. Every time I drop and I'm indoors for a bit I get some discomfort, but when I go outside everything is just so much better.
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#14
 2008-10-25, 21:40
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Should have went outside. Tripping on acid indoors sucks balls. At least for me it does. Every time I drop and I'm indoors for a bit I get some discomfort, but when I go outside everything is just so much better.
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I would have gone outdoors but it was too dark and cold out to be enjoyable.
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#15
 2008-10-25, 21:54
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Re: horrible first time acid
last night, I went against my friends promise that i wouldnt drop, and took 2 blotteres anyways
Never take acid on a whim.
but I was alone in my room the whole time to trip till morning.
This may have been part of your problem. Setting is very important, particularly for inexperienced trippers. You likely had a strong feeling of confinement, no?
I just kept walking around putting this in random places just trying to make any sense at all of what the fuck was happening,
Don't think about it so much during the trip. Let the drug take hold. Most of the introspect is for after the trip.
i just lost all sense of everything, all I had was this pressure in my head and this surge of thought, i guess it was called ego loss?
If you experienced ego death you wouldn't be here. It's not something that goes away.
I just wanted to freaking sleep. it wasnt a scary trip to hell but i felt very uncomfertable the whole time
Keep benzos on hand next time. Assuming there will be one.
i feel fine now kinda of, it just makes me feel awful to think about it
Acid is a wonderful teacher.
yeah i learned one hell of a lesson, and im paying it off now. im telling everyone all my lies and shit. its horrible. but its like, as bad as it was, it shook me in the right direction.
I believe I told you in your post a few days ago -- acid is going to show you many things you're not ready to see. It happens with almost everyone. I'm sure now you realize why it's a great tool for self awareness and betterment.
anything like hppd, but its like it still was so uncomfortable.
Usually takes a significant amount of psychedelic abuse in a short period of time to achieve that.
im just shooken up really badly but pushed in a direction that should positively effect my life. getting organized, quitting drugs, telling people ive lied to about drugs etc. this was just so awful =/
Welcome to LSD. Like I said - it can show you things you're not ready to see.
cause im still tripping a little bit now but ive calmed down cause i coudnt take it anymore and took 2 lunestas to force me to fall asleep.
Drink a couple beers if you can get 'em.
i just feel guilty cause i lied to my friend. but this pushed me to stop lying at all to anyone ever.
See two lines above.
Stop being a pussy.
Stop being an asshole ;)
the only thing you can do is either learn from the experience
He already has.
you learned that your mind is weak.
Sucks for you bro.
-10 points for being wrong.
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Sounds like you got some damn good blotters.
Anyway, like said above, bad trips are always something you learn from. Sometimes even more so than a good one. Don't let this be your reason to judge LSD and set it in your mind to never do it again. Now is as good a time as any to continue. Now that you are more aware of your flaws, your next acid trip will be a lot more about correcting rather then being shown them. Which is much less psychologically tolling.
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#16
 2008-10-25, 22:56
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Re: horrible first time acid
Sounds like you got some damn good blotters.
Anyway, like said above, bad trips are always something you learn from. Sometimes even more so than a good one. Don't let this be your reason to judge LSD and set it in your mind to never do it again. Now is as good a time as any to continue. Now that you are more aware of your flaws, your next acid trip will be a lot more about correcting rather then being shown them. Which is much less psychologically tolling.
Thanks darkus, thats was really helpful, I have learned and I may definitly try again in the future, but I will not make the mistake again of having a bad set and setting. the LSD didnt scare me and send me to hell, it just showed me some things that I didnt want to see or have to deal with, but now I realize, I cant hide from my problems otherwise theyll be a burden forever. Another thing that went wrong was I had set FAR too many expectations for my acid trip, and I had this constant stream of flowing thoughts, like I could not stop thinking, everything I saw made me think, thinking made me think more, but most of all I thought too much about all the nonsense that was happening and that I couldnt understand anything that was going on, I was trying to justify everything that was unexplainable with an explanation. And hell yes, I know I got good blotters, the visuals were AMAZING. Full on fractals and crazy cliche psychedelic colors and shapes, everything in my vision jiggled and everything was very distorted, when I looked at peoples faces on the TV their faces looked so funny, like their faces couldnt keep up with the movement of their heads, bah, I cant explain it but it was VERY visually amusing despite the dysphoria.
I tried too hard to gain introspection during the trip so I sent my mind to places I didnt want to go =/ but now in retrospect it was all a good learning experience, just not a fun one. I guess I just kind of expected it to be fun, and when I realized that it wasnt going to be fun under the circumstances I was in, I felt stuck and it turned dysphoric.
If theres a next time, it will be prepared for much more carefully, and it will be amazing.
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#17
 2008-10-25, 23:14
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Re: horrible first time acid
Next time try sensory deprivation meditation (that rhymes!).
Basically, seclude yourself in a comfortable room, laying down is best for some. Make the room completely dark, and either use earplugs or calming music.
In that kind of setting it's much easier for your mind to wander. In your trip you had too much stimulus going on and made it harder for you to let you wander. When your senses are deprived of stimulation, you're going to be left alone with your mind, which will lead you into some very intense mental hallucinations -- which is where most of your self analysis, awareness, and betterment is going to take place, and much more efficiently.
The only thing I would change (sometimes), would be music instead of earplugs. I really like Shpongle for acid meditation. It may sound cliche, but the music was pretty much designed for it. The music is much more than ear candy. Those guys create sounds that guide you.
But you have definitely gained from this experience. It's a drug that needs to be treated with a good deal of respect, otherwise it's going to kick you in the ass in a way you could never have imagined.
Set and setting, bro. Never forget those words.
Take care of yourself, and trip safe. Feel free to hit me up on AIM any time, my screen name is in my contact info.
[edit] I also noticed your profile picture is an eyeball. Mine is an eyeball too ;)
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#18
 2008-10-26, 00:47
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Facedown in the shag rug.
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Re: horrible first time acid
Better yet, get in-ear headphones. I've got some Shures that block out the outside world and pump lovely lovely music into my brain. I got them with tripping in mind. [And yard work, and motorcycle rides...]
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#19
 2008-10-26, 03:07
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Re: horrible first time acid
Next time you do acid:
Do it with someone experienced.
Don't just take it to "get fucked up."
Do it somewhere you feel comfortable rather than your house.
Make sure you have fun things to do and good happy music to listen to.
The first probly 5 times I ever tripped were horrible. And I figured out later that it was because I was in a house with crazy people I didn't know all too well. And I was just taking it so I could gET fuCKEd uP, instead of taking it so I could find new perspectives in life and of myself.
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#20
 2008-10-26, 03:17
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Re: horrible first time acid
  Sounds like a good time.
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#21
 2008-10-26, 04:06
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Re: horrible first time acid
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Bong
last night, I went against my friends promise that i wouldnt drop, and took 2 blotteres anyways, but I was alone in my room the whole time to trip till morning. but those 2 blotters absolutely shattered my reality but I just felt this general all over discomfort the whole time except for the beginning which was filled with absolutely mindblowing visuals, this visuals were absolutely amazing, crazy colored gemotric structures, watching tv made no sense at all it was all alien gibberish with peoples faces severally breahting all over and distorting, all this sensory information and nothing to do with it, I just kept walking around putting this in random places just trying to make any sense at all of what the fuck was happening, i just lost all sense of everything, all I had was this pressure in my head and this surge of thought, i guess it was called ego loss? I dont know, but it became so intense that everything lost ALL meaning, and i kept having these wierd thoughts trying to figure out a way to feel better but i just had a general discomforting experience, especially since i did it at night, I just wanted to freaking sleep. it wasnt a scary trip to hell but i felt very uncomfertable the whole time and absolutely was out of my mind, nothing made sense and I had absloutely no linear thought process, and i knew this was all from a drug but i couldnt escape the shitty feelings. totse what am i suppose to do, i feel fine now kinda of, it just makes me feel awful to think about it
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Sounds reasonably common really. Try it again one day when you have learned a bit more. LSD is amazing stuff. Try to appreciate what happened to you.
Next time try to just flow with it and let your mind reach it's potential, you won't regret it.
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#22
 2008-10-26, 06:00
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Re: horrible first time acid
Never take acid on a whim.
First time I took acid was on a whim in a club in downtown Miami. And I have an amazing time. Though making the 30 mile trip get home when I was the one of my group of friends that drove there and the other two of them had dropped acid also that night was....scary to say the least. But if I had to go back and do it again I definitely would. With that said, there is definitely the potential things could have gone very badly.
All these acid threads have got me wanting to trip now.
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#23
 2008-10-27, 03:32
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Re: horrible first time acid
try not locking yourself in your room next time and by yourself....
go outside... and trip with a friend....
your trip sounds a bit like my first time with acid....
the advice i got from the girl i got my first hits of acid from said something along the lines of "Just let the lovin' take hold"
No matter how crazy things get in your head, dont try and fight it... your not going to win so just let it take over... It can be one of the most amazing and meaningful experiences of your life... you just have to be ready for what it might show you...
If you try it again one day, just try to go into it with a better mindset and in a better place than your room...
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#24
 2008-10-27, 06:06
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Re: horrible first time acid
try not locking yourself in your room next time and by yourself....
go outside... and trip with a friend....
Some of my best trips and most enlightening ones were done byself inside my room. It gives you the peace, time, and tranquility that sets the perfect atmosphere for a knowledgable 'self' trip. It's also safer IMO then wandering around outside; my boy got jumped at 4 o'clock in the morning while tripping on cid and didnt realize till he woke up the next morning without his wallet, cell phone and a shitload of cuts and bruises all over his face. Also, I couldnt really think of anything more irritating then sitting in central while tripping balls or trying to explain to my folks why I was dancing in the middle of a freeway( get my drift?). If I want to know about nature, ill wander around outside; if I want to know about myself, I stay inside by, myself. But that's just me...
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#25
 2008-10-27, 14:04
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Re: horrible first time acid
Sounds like a great trip to me.
if you don't regret taking psychedelics afterwards, you ain't doing em right. you're just looking at pretty colours.
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#26
 2008-10-27, 14:54
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im done with drugs for now, I need to reorganize my life.
I lol'ed. Everyone says it plenty of times during their life. You won't stop, shit you'll probably be tripping by the weekend with your friends again. You had a bad trip man, it happens y'know. Don't let it freak you - you'll be grand by tomorrow. The come down is harsh but you'll get though it. Don't tell your girlfriend anything in this state of mind. You'll regret it. Go to bed , try and sleep for a day or so and you'll be cool.
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#27
 2008-10-27, 17:45
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dude thats what acid does you idiot. i'm sorry i used to be just like you...taking hallucinogens thinking it would be a blast. if you're morally balanced than you'll have a blast, if not then it'll shove all the bad shit you've been doing down your throat. maybe take a higher dose in a couple of days and really rethink your whole life, it's worth the discomfort
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#28
 2009-01-01, 07:27
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Re: horrible first time acid
I've taken acid only once and I had two blotters and completely lost my mind. It took 12 or so hours to get back completely. Now if I take it again is there a chance I can develop HPPD or is it only those who are mentally predisposed to it?
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#29
 2009-01-01, 07:49
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Re: horrible first time acid
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Bong
last night, I went against my friends promise that i wouldnt drop, and took 2 blotteres anyways, but I was alone in my room the whole time to trip till morning. but those 2 blotters absolutely shattered my reality but I just felt this general all over discomfort the whole time except for the beginning which was filled with absolutely mindblowing visuals, this visuals were absolutely amazing, crazy colored gemotric structures, watching tv made no sense at all it was all alien gibberish with peoples faces severally breahting all over and distorting, all this sensory information and nothing to do with it, I just kept walking around putting this in random places just trying to make any sense at all of what the fuck was happening, i just lost all sense of everything, all I had was this pressure in my head and this surge of thought, i guess it was called ego loss? I dont know, but it became so intense that everything lost ALL meaning, and i kept having these wierd thoughts trying to figure out a way to feel better but i just had a general discomforting experience, especially since i did it at night, I just wanted to freaking sleep. it wasnt a scary trip to hell but i felt very uncomfertable the whole time and absolutely was out of my mind, nothing made sense and I had absloutely no linear thought process, and i knew this was all from a drug but i couldnt escape the shitty feelings. totse what am i suppose to do, i feel fine now kinda of, it just makes me feel awful to think about it
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Thats frying homiee.
You took some super mindfucky acid.
but honestly dont you feel like you've won a huge battle ?
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