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# 1
2008-10-24, 23:09
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Whiskey dragon.
I put 5 grams of bud into a mickey of whiskey. How long should I let it soak before straining and drinking?
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2008-10-24, 23:11
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
does this really work? is it worth wasting like a couple of grams to do this?
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# 3
2008-10-24, 23:12
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Blanko
does this really work? is it worth wasting like a couple of grams to do this?
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Yes. At least for me it is.
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# 4
2008-10-24, 23:13
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
what's it taste like?
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# 5
2008-10-24, 23:15
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
what's it taste like?
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No idea. I just made this, I need to let is soak in for a few days at least.
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# 6
2008-10-24, 23:28
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
At least a few days, probably a week.
A good amount of bud should be used too.
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# 7
2008-10-24, 23:29
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
read this and try again.
http://boards.cannabis.com/concentra...-combined.html
ur gonna have to let that shit sit for 2 months cause i take it u didnt use 151 proof or higher.
if you used 40 proof just throw it away.
and if ur asking about this and then telling someone else it works ur retarded.
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# 8
2008-10-24, 23:46
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
I wouldn't throw it away. Even if it works just a little bit it would be better to drink it than to throw it away. If anything, I'd strain out the bud and dry it out and maybe try a butane extraction on what is left.
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# 9
2008-10-24, 23:47
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
cock, kinda like black cock but a little mexican.
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that's what i thought. this is just like all your other topics.
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# 10
2008-10-24, 23:47
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Don't worry, I'm pretty fucking confident it will work in 40% alcohol.
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# 11
2008-10-24, 23:50
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
It should work. If not drink/eat/smoke it.
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# 12
2008-10-24, 23:51
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
I eat smegma with my cheerios
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awesome.
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# 13
2008-10-24, 23:53
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The Cosmos
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
I put 5 grams of bud into a mickey of whiskey. How long should I let it soak before straining and drinking?
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At least a few weeks. Not until it starts turning green.
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Originally Posted by Blanko
does this really work? is it worth wasting like a couple of grams to do this?
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Yes, but using higher proof alcohol. Anything less than 50% alc. isn't going to get you the full potential.
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
what's it taste like?
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Alcohol with the distinct taste of green yummy.
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
ur gonna have to let that shit sit for 2 months cause i take it u didnt use 151 proof or higher.
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Hell, I let it sit for 2 months when I use 151. The longer the better 
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if you used 40 proof just throw it away.
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I wouldn't throw it away, but it's not going to work very well.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
Don't worry, I'm pretty fucking confident it will work in 40% alcohol.
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Not very well, unfortunately. Get Everclear next time.
Some good stuff from last summer
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7000/1115061812rm5.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8703/0214071453nr0.jpg
Last edited by Darkus; 2008-10-25 at 00:14.
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# 14
2008-10-25, 00:01
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
fuck no i don't eat fuckin cherrios u fuckin queer. how dare u make a pass at me like that. i bet u suck ass at smash bros playing against the CPU too.
Last edited by Jaykis; 2008-10-25 at 00:07.
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# 15
2008-10-25, 00:35
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the intergalactic space travel
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
I put 5 grams of bud into a mickey of whiskey. How long should I let it soak before straining and drinking?
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You should really try to read before just jumping into something like this, or at least make a post containing questions on if you're doing it right.
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# 16
2008-10-25, 00:41
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
read my first post link its a very good tried and true way of making some hella good dragon 1 eighth of hydro produces 26 to 34 doses. i
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# 17
2008-10-25, 00:44
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
read my first post link its a very good tried and true way of making some hella good dragon 1 eighth of hydro produces 26 to 34 doses. i
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u know how many of u i've stomped in super mario? u prolly ain't even old enough to have played super mario. (that's in response to u calling me a 16y/o in that other topic)
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# 18
2008-10-25, 00:44
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Sorry man, but like the guy said before me it's gotta be stronger alcohol. At least 75% alcohol I believe. Also, grind your bud down to pretty much shake when you put it in. It should sit about 8-10 weeks before you attempt to drink it. If I were you I'd try to take that weed out and dry it. Because at least if that doesn't work you have a nice bottle of whiskey to drown your sorrows in. Better luck next time.......
Jackass.
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# 19
2008-10-25, 00:52
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by jojo_r_thug
Jackass.
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hey where in GR? i'm drilling in jackson right now but my sister goes to kendall. i get around there every now and then. mostly purple east or i catch a band at the intersection or the orbit room.
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# 20
2008-10-25, 00:56
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
hey where in GR? i'm drilling in jackson right now but my sister goes to kendall. i get around there every now and then. mostly purple east or i catch a band at the intersection or the orbit room.
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This guy needs enough infractions to get a ban. I can usually handle trolls/flamers, but this guy is really pissing me off for some reason...I guess the whole smash brothers thing.
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# 21
2008-10-25, 01:17
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
glad to know he got under your skin.
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# 22
2008-10-25, 01:20
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Darkus
*snip*
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Listen to this man, everything he said is true.
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# 23
2008-10-25, 02:38
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Waste of good bud and good whiskey.
What kind of whiskey was it?
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# 24
2008-10-25, 04:35
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
I don't believe any of you tards. If stupid noob has anything to say on this then I will believe him, but seriously, THC if alcohol soluble. 40% liquor contains ENOUGH alcohol, almost half of that mickey is 100% pure alcohol with some water added in. Of course a higher percent would be better, but this will still get the job done. I have made iso hash a few times with 40% iso alcohol and it worked fine, just took a bit longer to evaporate, the point being 40% alcohol will dissolve THC.
It was OFC whiskey. It was really old. I still have another 60 of it.
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# 25
2008-10-25, 04:42
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
I don't believe any of you tards. If stupid noob has anything to say on this then I will believe him.
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Not going to get any answers if you act like a stuck up faggot 
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# 26
2008-10-25, 04:48
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by Darkus
Not going to get any answers if you act like a stuck up faggot |
Well everyone has already stated their opinion on this, and that seems to be that it won't work, or just barley work, and I seriously disagree. I have heard of green dragons being done with vodka, and that is also 40%. The reason I will listen to SN is because he knows his shit on chemistry, he is the lab tips mod, so unless someone that I respect tells me this won't work then I will not believe it. Alcohol failing to dissolve THC does not make sense in my books.
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# 27
2008-10-25, 04:58
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Why whiskey?
Next time use something pure like a high proof vodka. You'll get more of a weed taste, rather than a weed/whiskey taste, which is probably nasty.
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# 28
2008-10-25, 04:59
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by SEN D-F
Why whiskey?
Next time use something pure like a high proof vodka. You'll get more of a weed taste, rather than a weed/whiskey taste, which is probably nasty.
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Because I only had whiskey.
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# 29
2008-10-25, 05:08
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
Well everyone has already stated their opinion on this, and that seems to be that it won't work, or just barley work, and I seriously disagree.
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So why did you ask us? So you could have a bunch of people to disagree with?
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I have heard of green dragons being done with vodka, and that is aplso 40%
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If I heard of green dragon being done with beer, it doesn't mean it works.
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The reason I will listen to SN is because he knows his shit on chemistry, he is the lab tips mod
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So post it there 
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so unless that I respect tells me this won't work then I will not believe it. Alcohol failing to dissolve THC does not make sense in my books.
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So basically you were only asking stupid noob? If that's the case, why not just take it to google?
Either way, I don't think anyone said it won't work, most of us were saying that it won't be entirely effectively -- especially considering your alcohol : weed ratios and the strength of the alcohol used.
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# 30
2008-10-25, 05:15
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
No. Not at all. I was asking all of you, but I didn't expect this reaction. Now that pretty much everyone has disagreed with me, I don't really care what you think.
Upon making the thread I did not know you would all disagree or I would have not made it. I am extremely confident this will work.
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2008-10-25, 05:57 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
ur a dumb fuck thats way too much alchohol ur gonna be drunk. and theres more water than alcohol derka der. try it in 3 days and i;ll fuckin laugh let us know how it goes.
do a little research before u try and be cool.
o and dont waste our time and private message ur fan boy.
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#32
2008-10-25, 06:04 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Okay, here's a short one sentence answer that will answer all your questions.
If it doesn't turn green after a few days, it's going to suck.
Also, you should have ground the bud up more.
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#33
2008-10-25, 06:15 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Thats a lot of wasted weed you got there.
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#34
2008-10-25, 06:19 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
I don't believe any of you tards. If stupid noob has anything to say on this then I will believe him, but seriously, THC if alcohol soluble. 40% liquor contains ENOUGH alcohol, almost half of that mickey is 100% pure alcohol with some water added in. Of course a higher percent would be better, but this will still get the job done. I have made iso hash a few times with 40% iso alcohol and it worked fine, just took a bit longer to evaporate, the point being 40% alcohol will dissolve THC.
It was OFC whiskey. It was really old. I still have another 60 of it.
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Well you know.. An isobutane extraction is different from a soluble solution fermentation.
Also
Were you not looking for input?
Or were you making this thread to brag..
If everyone disagrees with you that should ring an alarm bell in your head that you're doing something wrong. In this case atleast.
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2008-10-25, 07:04 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
read this and try again.
http://boards.cannabis.com/concentrates/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html
ur gonna have to let that shit sit for 2 months cause i take it u didnt use 151 proof or higher.
if you used 40 proof just throw it away.
and if ur asking about this and then telling someone else it works ur retarded.
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Why a little extra chlorophyll is not going to hurt him. If you were using it for a smokable extract it would be necessarybut if your going to drink it there is no reason to just throw it out because it has water in it with the non goodies. It is still going to have thc in the ethanol. |
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2008-10-25, 09:12 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
I put 5 grams of bud into a mickey of whiskey. How long should I let it soak before straining and drinking?
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/aliveupboy/DSCF9278.jpg
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+1 for having Super Smash Bros. :)
That's the BEST version, the new ones are crap compared to ye ol N64 version. |
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2008-10-25, 14:00 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
What kind of whiskey worth a damn is only 80 proof, anyways?
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#38
2008-10-25, 14:22 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
this topic is the ultimate fail. how fucking retarded. dont come in here asking questions and then say everyone else is wrong when you dont get the answer you wanted. if you all ready knew the answer then why the fuck did you ask in the first place? by the way your wrong. its not going to work for shit.
FAIL
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2008-10-25, 15:36 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
^Any scientific explanation as to why it won't work? Or is not liking me enough of a scientific explanation.
Seriously the reason I'm not believing any of you is because your not fucking explaining anything. You're just saying "lololol ur dummm it wont work stupiddd".
How about explaining why THC, something that is soluble in alcohol, will fail to dissolve in.... a water bottle full of alcohol. Seriously, not one person has told me why this won't work. Thats why I don't believe you. I think you're all talking out of your ass.
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2008-10-25, 15:39 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
First off, I know wiki is often bullshit, but look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dragon_(drink)
Apparently it is most commonly made with vodka, which is also 40%. If it will work with vodka it will work with whiskey.
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""Green dragon" is made with very-concentrated alcohol because the cannabinoid compounds (the stuff that gets you high, including THC) do not dissolve in water, but they do dissolve well in alcohol. Everclear is ideal, but this is not available in some states. For large batches, use liquor with the highest alcohol content that is available. The more alcohol, the easier it is to extract the cannabinoids. Less water means less grassy taste." http://www.greendragonsoda.com/
Obviously a higher proof alcohol will work better but I think this will still work. WHY wouldn't it?
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2008-10-25, 15:49 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
I have gone to like 15 sites about green dragons, and not ONE of them have said it will not work in 40% alcohol. Some say it will work fine in 40%, others say the typical "the higher the proof the better" but I don't see anywhere it says 40% will not work.
e: Also, I've been to a ton of forums, and most people do this with vodka, and get a really intense high. Which makes perfect sense. THC = alcohol soluble. I'm pretty fucking sure you're all just spewing shit out of your ass, and have no idea wtf you're talking about. Which is surprising and disappointing to me because I actually had a lot of respect for this forum.
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#42
2008-10-25, 15:51 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
When I did this I used a 1/4oz of pretty good weed and about a 35cl of 95% alcohol, left it for 8 weeks, split it into 2 bottles (after filtering it, obviously) and added water so in total I had 70cl (35cl in each bottle).
Worked a treat :D
Maybe you could use that as a reference..
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#43
2008-10-26, 02:56 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
really? are you questioning my chemistry skills? you must be more of a noob than i thought. you want to know why 40% wont work for shit? cause its mostly fucking water you moron. just cause there is alcohol in it doesnt make it have the same solubility as pure alcohol. im not even going to explain it cause your a fucking retard and wouldnt usderstand anyhow. sure... if you let it sit there for like a year it might work. but thats not what your going to do. your a fucking moron and you FAIL
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2008-10-26, 14:19 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
First off, I know wiki is often bullshit, but look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dragon_(drink)
Apparently it is most commonly made with vodka, which is also 40%. If it will work with vodka it will work with whiskey.
And
""Green dragon" is made with very-concentrated alcohol because the cannabinoid compounds (the stuff that gets you high, including THC) do not dissolve in water, but they do dissolve well in alcohol. Everclear is ideal, but this is not available in some states. For large batches, use liquor with the highest alcohol content that is available. The more alcohol, the easier it is to extract the cannabinoids. Less water means less grassy taste." http://www.greendragonsoda.com/
Obviously a higher proof alcohol will work better but I think this will still work. WHY wouldn't it?
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1. Vodka is not always 40%. Those people are using high proof vodka.
2. 40% liquor is by no means a high proof.
3. You're an idiot. Delete this thread. |
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2008-10-26, 17:16 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Alright, alright. How about if I put it in the freezer. The water will turn solid, and the alcohol will condense into a smaller amount of extremely strong liquid. Will that work better?
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2008-10-26, 18:18 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
just cut ur losses. and use the link i gave.
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#47
2008-10-27, 06:22 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
Alright, alright. How about if I put it in the freezer. The water will turn solid, and the alcohol will condense into a smaller amount of extremely strong liquid. Will that work better?
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That will not work. With tht logic you could freeze a beer or glass of wine and get the pure ethanol out of it. If you freeze a beer what happens? the water and ethanol both freeze. 40%alc content will not freeze nor will the h20 in it. Now if you uped the h20 content it would start to form ice crystals and begin to freeze but so would the ethanol.
He can still drink the whiskey. It just isn't going to do what he wanted it to do. |
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#48
2008-10-27, 14:00 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
No he's actually right, you can do that. You won't be able to make it THAT good, but you can raise the proof that way. Reflux.
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2008-10-27, 14:28 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
not sure how your whiskey pot will turn out, but the 151-oven idea works like a champ...
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2008-10-27, 14:49 |
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by aliveupboy
Don't worry, I'm pretty fucking confident it will work in 40% alcohol.
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barley, Ive tried, you need at least 151 of evverclear if you can get it. |
# 51
2008-10-28, 04:22
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by madfast
No he's actually right, you can do that. You won't be able to make it THAT good, but you can raise the proof that way. Reflux.
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Such enrichment by freezing of a solution in water is sometimes oversimplified by saying that, for instance, because of the difference between water's 0° C freezing point and ethyl alcohol's -117° one, "the water freezes into ice ... while the ethyl alcohol remains liquid". This is false, and although some of the implications of that description are true and useful, other conclusions drawn from it would be false.
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# 52
2008-10-28, 04:35
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by ilovechronic
Such enrichment by freezing of a solution in water is sometimes oversimplified by saying that, for instance, because of the difference between water's 0° C freezing point and ethyl alcohol's -117° one, "the water freezes into ice ... while the ethyl alcohol remains liquid". This is false, and although some of the implications of that description are true and useful, other conclusions drawn from it would be false.
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Not exactly sure what you're trying to say, but freeze distillation (or fractional freezing) will work to raise his proof. It's pretty common knowledge. Check out the home-brew thread.
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# 53
2008-10-28, 04:37
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
Your bong is Red Eye Glass.
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# 54
2008-10-28, 15:06
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
i would just go with it, 40% isnt ideal, but like that mod said, try it, and make some oil out of the rest. Dont dry it and smoke the buds though, i seen some post in here by some retard saying dry it, hes a fucking idiot.
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# 55
2008-10-28, 20:04
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Re: Whiskey dragon.
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Originally Posted by madfast
Not exactly sure what you're trying to say, but freeze distillation (or fractional freezing) will work to raise his proof. It's pretty common knowledge. Check out the home-brew thread.
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The alcohol will freeze along with the water. 40% alcohol will not freeze when you put it in the freezer.He would have to add more water to get it to freeze and therefore would start losing alcohol.
What that says is that is false. it is not as easy as you make it sound.
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