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Old 2008-10-23, 23:34
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Default OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

Ok, so i've got an 80 and a high tolerance. Is it better to do the whole thing in one or two big lines, or several smaller ones? I'm already using nowarnings potentiators, but at $50 a pill i want to get the most i can out of this, and was wondering if it would make a differance.

on a side note does anyone else use the hose clamp method to grind up thier pills? i've never seen it mentioned here.
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Old 2008-10-23, 23:36
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

if youre gonna snort em all within a few minutes of eachother, it doesnt matter.

if youre good at snorting and can handle it, make a big line if thats youre thing; if not, make some smaller lines, it really doesnt matter.

on a side note, no. my method is folding a piece of computer paper with the pill(s) in it a bunch of times than banging on it with a pestle (or is it the mortar?). take it out, fill capsules or snort, and lick the shit that got stuck to the paper.
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Old 2008-10-23, 23:46
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

take a regular hose clamp and just grind the pill down on it it works perfect every time. I was amazed the first time I saw it done haven't used any other way since.
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Old 2008-10-23, 23:49
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

I'd eyeball it and line up 4 20mg lines and do them once every 30 minutes, depending on how strong of a high you want.

Definitely don't do it all at once. Some people can't handle doses that high.

I fold a decent sized square of paper into a triangle shaped pouch, and chew on the pill through the paper. It'll powder normally pills no problem, but chewing up beads requires a little bit of effort.

Good thing about this is it's easily transportable, disposable so you can easily get rid of the evidence if you need to do so.
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Old 2008-10-24, 00:01
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

my tolerance is high enough to where dosage wise i could do the whole thing at once, my question is more about absorbtion speed and if doing all of it would just clog up my nose and waste it.
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Old 2008-10-24, 00:52
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I would personally just rail the whole thing if I were you and could handle it. Possibly split it into two lines and one up each nostril if you're worried about it clogging. If they're the real OCs and not the stupid generic TEVAs then you shouldn't have to worry about any clogging.

Haha, if it is one of the gelling pills don't do it up both nostrils if you value breathing through your nose. It's hard to explain why your nose is completely stuffed when it was fine an hour ago
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Old 2008-10-24, 00:54
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

Some of it will probably be blocked in your sinuses and drip into your stomach if you do it all at once. But, the rush of it all hitting at once will make the overall feeling stronger than if you did it over the course of a half hour.

Even though some of it wont be absorbed right away, you'll feel more fucked up, and the OC that doesnt get absorbed in your sinus will drip into your stomach, where it has a higher bioavailability anyway.
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Old 2008-10-24, 01:19
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

I crush up all they OC that I'm gonna rail to FINE powder (to the point that a small amount lifts up and blows away when I take whatever crushing device I use away), be it 80mg or 320mg, and divide the whole pile into two equal lines.

The left one goes up the left nostril, the right one goes up the right nostril, in rapid succession. Sniff a few drops of water (read: TWO OR THREE DROPS) after 10-15 minutes to get rid of that 'chalky' feel when you breathe in.
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Old 2008-10-24, 01:28
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

Thanks for your replys everyone.

Has anyone else used the hoseclamp method? it only takes a few minutes and its makes the pill damn close to the consistancy of flour.

I couldn't find any info on bioavailabiliy, is it really higher orally?

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Old 2008-10-24, 01:35
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

I've never heard of it before. Could you explain?
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Old 2008-10-24, 01:37
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

...I couldn't find any info on bioavailabiliy, is it really higher orally?

Yessir. Taken in an alkaline, empty stomach, bioavailability can be a good ~20% higher than snorting.

You don't get that nice rush though...

I usually swallow 2\3 of my dose and rail the rest 15 minutes later.

A little bit of both worlds, ya know?

:D

EDIT: I used to do the hoseclamp method, because everyone else says it's great.

It's not. It fucks up your hands when you're doing it all the time (I might just be clumsy though :P) and it doesn't make it fine enough.

Get a smooth, flat surface, (Glass paper weights are fantastic) and a ceramic plate. Remove the coating to the OC, and break the pill into 4 individual pieces; if necessary, use you're teeth. Take the paper weight, and piece by piece, crush and grind those chunks down to a bloody pulp. Be gentle at first, but don't be afraid to use force after a bit. Really twist and grind the paperweight into the plate for optimum results, and don't forget to lick the bottom, there will be alot stuck on there.
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Old 2008-10-24, 01:50
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

You just take a hose clamp and slide the pill back and forth on it over a plate/hard surface, until its a nice fluffy pile of powder.

Nowarning- I've found some hose clamps work better then others. did you always use the same one? every other method i've used either doesn't make it fine enough, takes forever, or you lose a bunch in the process. It's too late now, but i'll definately try takin 2/3 next time. tums to make your stomache alkaline right?
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Old 2008-10-24, 04:36
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

How about half your pill, shoot half of it, then eat the other half.

Then you get a fucking nuts rush, and the nice long duration of eating.

Then again, you probably don't have decent access to filters and clean needles. Cool
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Old 2008-10-24, 04:51
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

i clogged my nose hella up the other day was fucked up for a good 24 hours. guess i have tevas? small round orange 20mg pills.
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Old 2008-10-24, 06:19
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fuckyew
i clogged my nose hella up the other day was fucked up for a good 24 hours. guess i have tevas? small round orange 20mg pills.


TEVAs are football shaped. You might have ABGs which say... ABG on them then a dose on the other side. If they say OC, and have a 20 on the other side then they're the real deal.

On a side note, I just shot up 140mgs in less than an hour and I'm barely buzzed :( Tolerance is a bitch.
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Old 2008-10-24, 20:06
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

A shotglass and the end of a screwdriver never fails me, simple and quite effective. As N0 Warning said, grind that shit up to a fine powder; the finer it is the easier it is be absorbed
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Old 2008-10-24, 21:09
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

50 bucks for an 80? Damn that sucks

Isnt it supposed to be 40 for 80?

personally, I'd get sick if i railed a whole 80 line but then again im just a pussy. Go for like 4. and take your time, dont rush it.

Oh and crush it with a spoon... seriously... just get a spoon, crush it with the underside

Works EVERY time!
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Old 2008-10-24, 23:26
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

snort it all for the rush broski.

chubigans this aint fuckin krogers. oc's go for 25 cents 50 cents to a dollar a mg (milligram)
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Old 2008-10-25, 00:18
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

I've used a hose clamp with pretty decent results, but what I do when I'm out and about in my car is to take the coating off, cut the pill in half, quarters, and then... whatever comes after quarters on a smooth plate (Preferably with sides(Yes, I keep a plate in my car...)) Then use the bottom edge of a lighter to crush those small chunks into a powder(Be careful those small chunks dont go flying -- this is where a plate with sides come in handy)

Then use the back side of a razor blade (Or credit card) to crush up any small chunks left, and you should be left wit ha decent powder. All you need to do now is scrape off the bottom of the lighter to get the powder stuck to it off.
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Old 2008-10-25, 00:22
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Default Re: OC one big line or a few smaller ones?

Thats why i use the hoseclamp, i hate wasting even a little, and i always have little chunks go flying, or just don't have the patience for other methods.
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