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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-10-23, 19:28
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Being stoned all the time
A lot of people seem to be opposed to the idea that you can healthily be high all the time with the aid of drugs. Of course theres tolerance and other factors that come into play but theres no good reason why we can't be high all the time. What goes up must come down my ass. If that was the case then conversely what went down would have to bounce back up but thats not the case. If people can be depressed all the time then people can be high all the time.
It may not be physically possible to be high all day every day with the knowledge we have at present but I think some day soon we'll figure it out. All these inhibitions can be overcome IMO. Take alcohol for instance. Years ago people probably thought going blind was an unavoidable inevitibility of drinking but as our knowledge expanded we discovered that it was only the methanol and fusel oils present in poorly distilled alcohol that caused blindness. I think the same goes for all drugs. Bodily damage and comedowns can probably be circumvented we just need to learn more about the drugs and what they do to our bodies.
I'm heading into the pharmacology field and I'm hoping to work on this with government funding some day.
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#2
 2008-10-23, 19:33
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Personally I think it loses it's appeal when it becomes a constant thing. But alot of my friends are high all day and I don't see a problem with that...if it's just weed.
Anything besides weed will eventually hurt you if your using 24/7, I know from experience.
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#3
 2008-10-23, 19:38
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Re: Being stoned all the time
The only two real problems I see with being high all the time is:
1. Its expensive
2. short term memory loss
As well as increasing a tolerance to a point where you need to smoke a ton more.
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#4
 2008-10-23, 19:45
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Re: Being stoned all the time
I mean all drugs not just weed but even weed causes problems when you use it all the time.
Like I said there are obstacles but who says we can't go around these obstacles? We haven't figured it out yet but we probably will in the near future.
Kbasa drug prices is another obstacle that needs to be overcome. I don't think they can keep drugs illegal forever. People are getting smart. They're not gonna take this shit for much longer. We can all see how much the pharmaceutical industries are ripping us off and nobody likes being treated like a baby being told whats good for them and whats not.
Putting aside the legal status of drugs though we can probably find decent methods to get high that are not detrimental to our health and cause no harm to anyone therefore ways to get high that the government will have no reasonable excuse to make illegal.
We've to think outside the box. Yeah drugs are harmful but drinking water can be harmful if you don't do it probably. There may well be ways over these barriers like tolerance, bodily harm, comedowns, addiction etc. right under our noses.
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#5
 2008-10-23, 20:29
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Re: Being stoned all the time
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Originally Posted by Kbasa
The only two real problems I see with being high all the time is:
1. Its expensive
2. short term memory loss
As well as increasing a tolerance to a point where you need to smoke a ton more.
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it also changes your personality.
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#6
 2008-10-23, 20:47
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someguyontuesday 
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Re: Being stoned all the time
I've lived like that for about a year, and it did change who I was. My thoughts stayed pretty true, but my actions didn't. I also couldn't remember shit. Still can't.
I failed 6 of 7 classes, couldn't remember things i said just minutes ago, and had poor motor function.
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#7
 2008-10-23, 20:50
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Re: Being stoned all the time
even weed has an effect ive smoked everyday for the last 3 years i mean everyday bong loads like 4 times a day. But i only smoke snoop dog shit so its all good.
but i can attest that i make some of my decisions based on the fact if i'll be able to toke or not lame i dont give a fuck i like being high keeps my mind on track. but in the long run its gonna catch up.
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#8
 2008-10-23, 20:52
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Re: Being stoned all the time
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Originally Posted by someguyontuesday
I've lived like that for about a year, and it did change who I was. My thoughts stayed pretty true, but my actions didn't. I also couldn't remember shit. Still can't.
I failed 6 of 7 classes, couldn't remember things i said just minutes ago, and had poor motor function.
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exactly, thats why im on my break with bud especailly too good of a bud as i just become lazy and sometimes cant pull
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#9
 2008-10-23, 20:56
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Anything besides weed will eventually hurt you if your using 24/7, I know from experience.
You obviously dont from experience if you seem to think constant weed smoking is not going to hurt you. Iv seen a lot more people fuck their lives up and look like complete tits because all they do is smoke all day every day and let their lives revolve around it. Anyone who says weed doesnt damage your mind or effect how you think, act and feel even in the long term after quitting is naieve as fuck.
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#10
 2008-10-23, 21:00
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Re: Being stoned all the time
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Originally Posted by MrSparkle
A lot of people seem to be opposed to the idea that you can healthily be high all the time with the aid of drugs. Of course theres tolerance and other factors that come into play but theres no good reason why we can't be high all the time. What goes up must come down my ass. If that was the case then conversely what went down would have to bounce back up but thats not the case. If people can be depressed all the time then people can be high all the time.
It may not be physically possible to be high all day every day with the knowledge we have at present but I think some day soon we'll figure it out. All these inhibitions can be overcome IMO. Take alcohol for instance. Years ago people probably thought going blind was an unavoidable inevitibility of drinking but as our knowledge expanded we discovered that it was only the methanol and fusel oils present in poorly distilled alcohol that caused blindness. I think the same goes for all drugs. Bodily damage and comedowns can probably be circumvented we just need to learn more about the drugs and what they do to our bodies.
I'm heading into the pharmacology field and I'm hoping to work on this with government funding some day.
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I don't understand how you can want to become so completely dependant on a load of drugs, think of your liver. Your life expectancy would decrease so much!
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#11
 2008-10-23, 21:04
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someguyontuesday 
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Agreed with Tordek. I lived in a poor area (just moved to middle class) and more than half my friends were drop-outs who just laid around smoking weed all day. Don't get me wrong, they were good people, just super losers.
Weed is awesome, it's amazing, in fact. Shrines should be built to marijuana. But all good things should be in moderation. Just because cumming feels good doesn't mean we should lay around 24/7 jacking off. It's the same with weed.
Not to mention that if you do it enough, the tolerance and repetition gets to be so much that it's not even fun.
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#12
 2008-10-23, 22:01
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Why the fuck does everyone think weed is so fucking harmless?
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#13
 2008-10-23, 22:11
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Re: Being stoned all the time
You obviously dont from experience if you seem to think constant weed smoking is not going to hurt you. Iv seen a lot more people fuck their lives up and look like complete tits because all they do is smoke all day every day and let their lives revolve around it. Anyone who says weed doesnt damage your mind or effect how you think, act and feel even in the long term after quitting is naieve as fuck.
Lol ok, I obviously don't know what im talking about...
I mean that weed will not hurt your health. Like I said, personally being stoned 24/7 doesn't appeal to me anymore. Did it for about 3 years and the only thing that happened to me was my lung capacity went down about 3% from a normal persons.
If you mean besides healthwise than it just depends on the person. Two of my friends are high the entire time they're awake. This is fine if you have the willpower to not let it effect you life. Thing is they don't. Two months into college and they're dropping out because they want to sit around and smoke all day...the cause, weak willpower.
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#14
 2008-10-23, 22:31
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Exactly, Sonty.
Weed isn't inherently bad for you (though it is somewhat, healthwise. Not much) but the problem with smoking all the time is that people don't know how to control themselves. It's no problem to be high and go about your life, but it is when you're fucking up your life by dropping out n shit like that, just to smoke pot.
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#15
 2008-10-23, 23:07
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Re: Being stoned all the time
puppppeetttssssssssss?
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#16
 2008-10-23, 23:13
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Re: Being stoned all the time
What I don't understand is why people would want to be stoned all the time...
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#17
 2008-10-23, 23:26
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Where is intravenous?
That cunt has been high for like a decade now..
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#18
 2008-10-24, 00:56
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Re: Being stoned all the time
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Originally Posted by Spliffing
Why the fuck does everyone think weed is so fucking harmless?
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cuz it is harmless.
it will only harm you mentally if it harms you at all
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#19
 2008-10-24, 01:02
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Ed Lister 
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Re: Being stoned all the time
cuz it is harmless.
it will only harm you mentally if it harms you at all
It has harmed you already and you don't even know it.
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#20
 2008-10-24, 01:14
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Re: Being stoned all the time
weed tolerance is the devil
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#21
 2008-10-24, 01:31
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Re: Being stoned all the time
weed is harmless u dumbfucks. get that shit through ur brain
now if u do it 24/7 ur a dumbfuck and yes THEN it will start hurting u. u just become a fat lazy piece of shit unless ur bill gates and dont give a FUCK.
but totse members honestly are not that rich people.
anyways key to everything is moderation. ive done the get high 24/7 shit and i was going nowhere. though it was fun and relaxing, 24/7 is not for me .
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#22
 2008-10-24, 01:33
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Ed Lister 
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Re: Being stoned all the time
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Originally Posted by mrgrape2
weed is harmless u dumbfucks. get that shit through ur brain
now if u do it 24/7 ur a dumbfuck and yes THEN it will start hurting u. u just become a fat lazy piece of shit unless ur bill gates and dont give a FUCK.
but totse members honestly are not that rich people.
anyways key to everything is moderation. ive done the get high 24/7 shit and i was going nowhere. though it was fun and relaxing, 24/7 is not for me .
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The damage done is all too obvious... You're lucky you stopped when you did.
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#23
 2008-10-24, 01:39
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Re: Being stoned all the time
i smoke every day and i'm a successful engineering student. i've been smoking since 13.
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#24
 2008-10-24, 01:48
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Re: Being stoned all the time
the goal is not being stoned all the time, but finding the right ratio of chill time and doing shit time...
it just so happens you can smoke pot through them both..
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#25
 2008-10-24, 02:11
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Re: Being stoned all the time
It has harmed you already and you don't even know it.
explain.
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#26
 2008-10-24, 02:14
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Ed Lister 
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Re: Being stoned all the time
explain.
You can't spell. Your grammar sucks. Your sentence structure is absent. You get excited and post little fuzzy photos of mediocre drugs on an internet forum every time you get some. Your girlfriend can't get you off.
Would you like me to continue?
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#27
 2008-10-24, 02:26
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Re: Being stoned all the time
You can't spell. Your grammar sucks. Your sentence structure is absent. You get excited and post little fuzzy photos of mediocre drugs on an internet forum every time you get some. Your girlfriend can't get you off.
Would you like me to continue?
I can't spell and my grammer sucks because of all of the ecstasy.
Whats wrong with posting what i got in post your ____ ?
ah! my girlfriend actually got me off finally btw !
( im pretty glad too. )
None of these are legit reasons of how marijuana harmed me btw.
But yeah ecstasy definatily harmed me.
and yah. Continue.
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#28
 2008-10-24, 03:13
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Man, yall know weed changes your personality. it's not the burden on society it's made out to be, but saying it's harmless is like saying there's no niggas in Arizona.
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#29
 2008-10-24, 03:24
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Re: Being stoned all the time
I smoke every night... and seem to have more motivation and drive then a lot of my friends who don't.
It definatly does change your personality, but thats not necessarily a bad thing.
I think smoking 24/7 is a bit too much if you are in college/have a demanding job, or want to have a social life. But hey, it all depends on your situation... i'm sure it could be done.
Whatever makes you happy...
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#30
 2008-10-24, 04:48
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Re: Being stoned all the time
You can't be high 24/7/365, if you're doing drugs constantly they'll get boring then you'll trying new shit and you'll end up with a crack pipe between your lips. 'tis a fact.
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#31
 2008-10-24, 05:05
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Re: Being stoned all the time
A crack addiction pretty much is an attempt to be high 24/7/365
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#32
 2008-10-24, 05:17
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Re: Being stoned all the time
being high all the time blows.
I spent over a year smoking bud all the time. like 3.5
of the best pot in my town everyday.
I didn't really get "high" much because of tollerance, and when I did it took blunts of quality bud, to make things worse I reached a point where I hated not having THC in my system and formed a habit out of the process of smoking, which was worse than my OC addiction in some ways.
with a true addiction you feel like shit, and at least for me this was a form of motivation, I wanted to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
when I quit smoking everyday, I didnt feel like shit, I just felt like I wanted to smoke a bowl.
I still smoke bud, just not all the time.
I enjoy it more.
I am more active.
I have more cash.
I inhale less smoke
and in general I feel better.
doing anything all the time isnt good.
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#33
 2008-10-24, 10:04
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Lol ok, I obviously don't know what im talking about...
I mean that weed will not hurt your health.
Tell that to my lungs...
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#34
 2008-10-24, 10:46
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Re: Being stoned all the time
weed is harmless u dumbfucks. get that shit through ur brain
now if u do it 24/7 ur a dumbfuck and yes THEN it will start hurting u.
Then its not harmless is it retard. Your a perfect example of someone who's brains clogged up with cannabinoids. Thats the sloppiest reply I've ever seen.
I smoked weed for about 7 years straight and you know how it is you don't just smoke it every few days you wanna be stoned all the time. It didn't cause any physical harm to me at all in fact I think it was the opposite my lungs and general health was better when I was smoking weed than it is now,
Didn't cause any permanent damage to my mental health either (well maybe it did I don't know but I'm mentally stable, have a way above average IQ and do real well in college) but I'm not stupid enough to go around saying its harmless because I can see the harm it caused to myself and people I know. I'm talking about temporary harm not permanent. Lots of the harm hard drugs cause is just temporary too. Yeah you hear pussies talking about how coke or speed destroyed their lives but these faggots would be saying the same thing about weed if that was their drug of choice and I have heard people talk about how cannabis destroyed their life. I say to them "the drugs didn't destroy your life you destroyed your life by abusing drugs".
A couple of years ago my brain was so clogged up with cannabinoids I couldn't even remember my phone number. It took me a few seconds to remember my name sometimes. I stopped smoking weed and about 6 months later I got my memory back.
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#35
 2008-10-24, 11:01
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Anyhow this thread isn't directed specifically at weed. There are lots more drugs than weed and there are other ways to get high than drugs. Drugs have their upsides and downsides. They effect everyone differently and some people can handle heavy drug use.
My dads a perfect example of that. He's taken every drug known to man and he has literally been stoned since 1980 and everyones been saying "oh you just watch he won't be around for much longer" but he's still out and about. When I say stoned I don't mean just stoned on weed. In a typical day he gets drunk first thing in the morning before his breakfast (usually accompanied by a few joints too) then he'll get a bit of H into him and go off to try and make money and his friends are all drug fiends so they usually have crack, coke, speed, morphine, ketamine, PCP or god knows what else on them and my dad always gets a hit or two off them.
He's like that fucker from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I'm not even exaggerating he has the same style as him and everything. I'm nearly inhuman when it comes to drugs but even I have trouble keeping up with this cunt.
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#36
 2008-10-24, 11:54
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Re: Being stoned all the time
I love seeing all these desperate stoners trying to defend their precious god. Face it, smoking weed harms you if you smoke it all the time and still harms you if you only smoke occasionally. Sure it might not be as bad as anti-drug media makes it out to be but its nowhere near as "safe" as pro drug media makes it out to be either. Weed is far from safe especially for a healthy person. For a start you are inhaling smoke, fuck what people say about how weed smoke has teh anti lung cancer properties... Your lungs were not meant to inhale burnt stuff. And changing the way your mind works? It might not be as significant as some drugs and it might have been "human nature" for thousands of years to get high but your mind was not meant to be fucked with and changing the way things work is not good for it.
For the record I smoke... A lot but iv got over the whole "omgz weed is safe cause it cures teh cancer and it should be legal cause its safer than alcohol etc..." Just except the fact that the drug you take IS going to cause you damage eventually wether you smoke it every day, once a week or once a month.
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#37
 2008-10-24, 12:17
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Re: Being stoned all the time
doing anything all the time isnt good.
This.
Also: Durrrrrrrrrrr
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#38
 2008-10-24, 13:05
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Re: Being stoned all the time
Your lungs were not meant to inhale burnt stuff. And changing the way your mind works? It might not be as significant as some drugs and it might have been "human nature" for thousands of years to get high but your mind was not meant to be fucked with and changing the way things work is not good for it.
I strongly disagree. Weed smoke does contain a lot of tar and does have negative effects on your lungs but I believe it also has alot of medicinal effects like many other herbs do. Personally I up until I was 12 I was always catching colds and always had a cough but I can honestly say in the 7 years I'd been smoking weed I only had about 4 or 5 coughs and they were caused by allergies to cats or the rare occasions I got sick. Now I don't smoke weed anymore but I somehow caught asthma which I didn't have since I was 10 and I had a chest infection for a month there.
Maybe its just a coincidence maybe not. As for "our minds were not made to be altered". Says who? If our minds are capable of operating in all these different mindsets then I think thats a good ground for speculation that our minds are made to be dynamic and altered at will.
With all these radio waves and microwaves and the crap we put in food these days our so called "natural" state of mind is probably nothing like peoples mindsets were a thousand years ago.
I do agree that all these mind altering substances come with risks and should be used responsibly.
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#39
 2008-10-24, 15:23
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Re: Being stoned all the time
I didn't read anything in this thread, but everything should be used in moderation. Unless you have absolutely no responsibilities in life there is no reason why you should be stoned all the time.
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#40
 2008-10-24, 15:33
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Re: Being stoned all the time
You'll grow out of it.
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#41
 2008-10-24, 15:55
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Re: Being stoned all the time
cuz it is harmless.
it will only harm you mentally if it harms you at all
Being harmed mentally can be far worse than being harmed physically.
I don't see the point in being high all the time either. I think being high is better if it's on occasion.
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