I was flipping through the channels and saw old friend Dr. Drew. It was some mtv show about sex, where the parents wanted their son to wait to get married before having sex. I think it's ridiculous for one reason...what if the sex is bad?! Sex can be less than par for guys too, some girls are a bit boring/conservative in bed, while others are naturally loose. Just like men vary in penis size, women vary in natural vaginal size. What if you marry this wonderful girl but ends up having a cow vagina? or if she is on the small side and you're always hurting her? That would suck...I'd rather know what's in store before I put down 2g on a fucking ring.

I agree
and I hate when those bible humping freaks try to act like you are some kind of raging slut if you don't wait till marriage.
I don't want to sound corny or whatever, but I think that you should wait until you find someone you love. It doesn't have to be marriage though. The divorce rate is 50/50 anyway.

Besides, they could always end up being a cannibal and murdering you and then eating your body.

I agree as well.

and to all those people who say they have self-respect. If you have sex with your "lifelong partner" after marriage.. .then they divorce you.... where has your self-respect gone.

If that made any sense. :D

I agree as well.

and to all those people who say they have self-respect. If you have sex with your "lifelong partner" after marriage.. .then they divorce you.... where has your self-respect gone.

If that made any sense. :D

If you and your partner believe in divorce, what's the point in believing in sex before marriage.

I think lots of people just say they're waiting for marriage because they can't get laid.

If some one wants to wait till marriage for sex, let them? You can continue having awesome kinky sex and they can continue being 'pure'. Doesn't hurt any one.

You're a moron.
Will explain why later.

I never said anything about not letting them, I just think it's a poor choice. I mean, once you're in a loving, caring relationship, you might as well see how the sex is going to be before you sign your life away. But if people want to be gamblor, then oh well.

I never said anything about not letting them, I just think it's a poor choice. I mean, once you're in a loving, caring relationship, you might as well see how the sex is going to be before you sign your life away. But if people want to be gamblor, then oh well.

If they DO decide to have sex before marriage, and the sex is bad, it's not like that will end the relationship, if they were so in love and wanted to get married.

If they DO decide to have sex before marriage, and the sex is bad, it's not like that will end the relationship, if they were so in love and wanted to get married.

I didn't say anything about people that were about to get married, just people that are in a loving, caring relationship, but yes it CAN end the relationship. Both guys and girls end relationships because of the sex, though usually only if it is quite bad. I mean they just won't say "god that was awful, we're breaking up," but they'll find a way out over time.

I never said anything about not letting them, I just think it's a poor choice. I mean, once you're in a loving, caring relationship, you might as well see how the sex is going to be before you sign your life away. But if people want to be gamblor, then oh well.

It's their belief. I'm sure you have stupid beliefs people could pick apart but don't. Another thing is, when I got with my first girlfriend the sex was HORRIBLE. I was such a noob. At the end of our relationship, she'd trained me so well that a problem we were having was I was making her cum too quickly. "NO NO...I want to come with you. not yet...not yetaaaaahhh...."

Just because the sex is bad at the start it doesnt mean anything.

That is a complete load of bull shit. I was kicked out of home (female by the way) when I was 16 because my parents found out I was having sex with an atheist and they wanted me to wait till I was married. I do agree you shouldn’t have sex with any random person. However there is no way I could last that long without sex. My boyfriend and I are still together and going strong, much to my parent’s hatred. Fuck that belief.

Nothing stupid or wrong about staying "pure" til you're married. Its a valid choice and brings a lot of benefits.

Its not for everyone but I wouldn't belittle those who make that choice. They sure as fuck save themselves some heartache.

Oh and please don't believe all that fem-nazi clap trap about "having to see if you're sexually compatible", as long as both your bits work then you're compatible...nature is clever like that.

What you really mean by "sexually compatibility" is: are you prepared to stop being selfish and concentrate on your spouse's pleasure more than your own?

Anyone who believes that their views are the only ones with validity are idiots.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having sex before marriage, and I don't think there's anything wrong with waiting either. Sex is a tricky thing, and it carries very different meaning for everyone. It isn't hurting anyone to have your own clear idea about what you want and what sex means to you, and sticking by that decision.

What you really mean by "sexually compatibility" is: are you prepared to stop being selfish and concentrate on your spouse's pleasure more than your own?

There is more to it than just that, there is unit-to-unit compatibility. Hotdogs and hallways don't match up, just like a rocket and a donut hole don't match up. Now, it's true that 80-90% of both men and women have more-or-less average ranged sizes and will match up well enough and the rest is left up to style and chemistry, but not everyone is built in the average range.

You're comparing sex to mashing up hotdogs and donuts? Seriously?

There is more to it than just that, there is unit-to-unit compatibility. Hotdogs and hallways don't match up, just like a rocket and a donut hole don't match up. Now, it's true that 80-90% of both men and women have more-or-less average ranged sizes and will match up well enough and the rest is left up to style and chemistry, but not everyone is built in the average range.

Unless you are deformed in some way then you will be compatible. Nothing to do with 'average'. We've had girls here whose partners have been HUGE (11-13" flaccid) and they have a fulfilled sex life.

There are women who are unnaturally tight or shallow, or whose hips are fused but these are a case for surgery and NOT an argument for having sex to test compatabilty..

Unless you are deformed in some way then you will be compatible. Nothing to do with 'average'. We've had girls here whose partners have been HUGE (11-13" flaccid) and they have a fulfilled sex life.

There are women who are unnaturally tight or shallow, or whose hips are fused but these are a case for surgery and NOT an argument for having sex to test compatabilty..

It has nothing to do with "deformed," it is just how these people are born and is not a reason for surgery. It's simple, take a large sized girl and a small guy or a large guy and a small girl and it won't work very well a lot of the time. Some small girls will simply reject bigger guys, because they know it won't work and the same goes for really big girls when they see a smaller guy. For instance, my ex only had sex with her previous ex once in a year-long relationship because he was "very small" and simply didn't enjoy it whatsoever. What if she had married him before finding this fact out? I'm not saying it's necessary for everyone, just the logical thing to do. Just like living with someone before getting married, you really don't know what it'll be like with that person on a day-to-day living basis until you have lived with them. What if they end up completely controlling or a slob or something worse? Imo, it is simply better to find out everything about the person and how married life would be BEFORE committing. Committing blind just seems risky.

Furthermore, no girl here has seen 11-13" flaccid LOL. Maybe Jonah Falcon has that, but it's one in a billion and girls are horrrible at estimating size. A guy at my work is a self-proclaimed 8" and he slept with 2 girls at our work and they run around seriously talking him up as "10-13." It's the norm, anything above or below average and they're estimates are extremely exaggerated.

[QUOTE=KikoSanchez;10628511] What if she had married him before finding this fact out? ... Committing blind just seems risky.

Try talking before sex? White people do that sometimes.

I just think you'd have to actually try it out before both parties knew. White people? Where did that come from? Don't generalize us, please.

I hate people who act like sex is no big deal.

Because it fucking is.

Bad sex can ruin a relationship and good sex can save it.
Thus acting like sex doesnt play a part at all and saying that it can wait until youve dedicated your lifes to each other is pretty damn fucking dumb

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I just think you'd have to actually try it out before both parties knew. White people? Where did that come from? Don't generalize us, please.

I hear what you're saying but the chances of there being a physical incompatibility are pretty damn slim, especially an incurable incompatabilty. Important is that people talk.

Infact I've been racking my absinthe ravaged brain, trying to think of an instance I could recall where there had really been a physical problem.

Only one I can come up with was in my own family almost a hundred years ago! He married a girl who turned out to be an hermaphrodite...so the family sagas anyways. She really hadn't known that there was anything wrong with herself, her parents had kept her in the dark. I believe the marriage was annulled for non consummation.

Bad sex can ruin a relationship and good sex can save it.


No, immaturity and egoism can ruin a relationship, selflessness and being an adult can save it. Sex is a symptom not the cause.

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I hear what you're saying but the chances of there being a physical incompatibility are pretty damn slim, especially an incurable incompatabilty. Important is that people talk.

Infact I've been racking my absinthe ravaged brain, trying to think of an instance I could recall where there had really been a physical problem.

Only one I can come up with was in my own family almost a hundred years ago! He married a girl who turned out to be an hermaphrodite...so the family sagas anyways. She really hadn't known that there was anything wrong with herself, her parents had kept her in the dark. I believe the marriage was annulled for non consummation.

I just don't think they are as slim as you would think. A good friend of mine has had to resort to searching the internet for more-or-less a "size queen" because he has been turned down 4 out of 5 times he was about to have sex, because it never worked with the girl. Either she flat out said no when she saw him naked, or they tried and it was far too painful for her to try anymore. On the other end of the spectrum are...those size queens that will be disappointed with many men, they for sure should have pre-marital sex. There are also men with micropenises and women that are built extremely shallow. But it is just how they were built, they can't help it.

And I agree talking and what not should be a first resort, but I honestly think you're being naive about humans in general, if you don't think sex is a factor of breaking relationships.

post-marital sex should be kept in fairy tales and for people with true love not used in modern day society