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# 1

2008-10-21, 01:26
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American Revolutionaries
Lets Say Swim...
Builds a large Revolutionary force.
Takes several towns under Revolutionary control.
Annex's Territory away from the United States.
Allows an Election.
Would this lead Towards a Civil War?
Last edited by ComradeHS; 2008-10-21 at 01:49.
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# 2

2008-10-21, 01:45
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Acolyte
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Land of Fruits and Nuts [cali]
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Re: American Revolutionaries
Yes its a civil war and also the USA is a federation and parts cannot annex unless the whole says so.
So the vote would have to include the whole USA not just the area.
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# 3

2008-10-21, 09:43
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Re: American Revolutionaries
Several towns vs. the entire combined US armed forces? This isn't 1776, bro. Half the country (read: the original civil war) couldn't even succeed in seceding, so good luck with your plans.
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# 4

2008-10-21, 20:58
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Re: American Revolutionaries
From Wikidevil:
"A total of 1,083,027 personnel are on active duty within the United States and its territories (including those afloat): The vast majority, 883,430 of them, are stationed at various bases within the Continental United States. There are an additional 36,827 in Hawaii and 19,828 in Alaska. 90,218 are at sea while there are 2,970 in Guam and 137 in Puerto Rico."
So, I'd start by annexing Puerto Rico. It is mercifully free of Puerto Ricans these days, since they all live in Miami, New York and LA. It is currently populated by Ricky Ricardo Jr, Jose Cuervo and two chickens named Pepe and Lupe.
Seriously, though, the only realistic way to launch a coup would be to build up that force completely underground, then launch a massive, multi-pronged takeover, in which all media, mercantile and transportation was swooped up by your regime.
Once control over that area was established, it would have to be maintained, and that could only be done by letting the gubmint know that the lives of the innocent citizens of Wyoming (or wherever) would come to harm if an attempt was made to re-take the territory.
Wait and see how much things deteriorate under Obama before making any permanent plans, though.
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# 5

2008-10-21, 21:29
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Re: American Revolutionaries
Quote:
Originally Posted by is missing
Several towns vs. the entire combined US armed forces? This isn't 1776, bro. Half the country (read: the original civil war) couldn't even succeed in seceding, so good luck with your plans.
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half the country? hahahaha if your talking about the first civil war, america was having to pay irish immigrants to fight, and they still got their ass kicked. regardless of what the media says, other than the revolutionary war, we've pretty much lost every war we've fought, including the civil war. it stopped because the government lied, and then started back over again on a much smaller scale during the "reconstruction" period. man for man the U.S. got beat. just like we're winning against iraq  the only thing insurgents have to do to win, is continue to exist.
the idea is stupid though. there is another civil war coming, but the government wont be overthrown by conservative couch commandos (and this is the kind of stuff they talk about). but things like the southwest. if the U.S. said every illegal immigrant had to leave, that would be declaring war against the southwest.
dont expect them to call it a war on tv. it's called "terrorism". but when you have the government sending storm troopers in to burn alive american citizens, and then citizens bombing government buildings in retaliation that is civil war. same thing when "criminals" (rebels) are getting into shootouts with federal agents daily.
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# 6

2008-10-21, 21:35
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Re: American Revolutionaries
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Originally Posted by ilovesawedoffpump
regardless of what the media says, other than the revolutionary war, we've pretty much lost every war we've fought, including the civil war.
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Are you fucking retarded?
Who won World War I then, the Germans?
Who won World War II then, the Germans?
Who won the Civil War then, the Germans?
You're trying to act like you know this shit, but it sounds like you're just repeating some shit your LSD-hooked history teacher told you. How did we lose WW2? We came in, fucked them over at D-Day, and then proceeded to fuck them over right up until Berlin. Did we lose because Hitler murked himself? No. Are you saying we lost the war because so many people died?
Welcome to war.
I'm not sure how I can express how retarded you sound in coherent words.
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# 7

2008-10-21, 21:41
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Re: American Revolutionaries
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Originally Posted by ilovesawedoffpump
hahahaha if your talking about the first civil war america was having to pay irish immigrants to fight, and they still got their ass kicked. regardless of what the media says, other than the revolutionary war, we've pretty much lost every war we've fought, including the civil war.
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What the hell are you even talking about? You do realize that in the civil war, America was fighting itself, don't you? Because it doesn't seem like you do.
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# 8

2008-10-21, 21:47
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Re: American Revolutionaries
the only people who won WW2 was the jews  thats who wins most wars. again, the germans and their allies were vastly out-numbered. and again, man for man we lost really bad.
but according to us, we won. just like how we were brave for dropping a nuke on civilians, yet the kamikaze who flew planes into our fucking ships were "cowards". yeah fucking right
hitler died honorably, like so many of the so-called cowards in WW2. The U.S government won? no, the u.s. government, along with all the other countries the jews were able to manipulate saved the jews ass. had hitler succeeded the world would have "won" and been rid of the jew
if you watch the news, and actually believe the nonsense they say when the truth is there for everyone to see, you really are an idiot, and you dont have a mind of your own, you allow whatever you see on your little stupid-box to shape and mold your opinions about the world, instead of making them for yourselves.
signing treaties and giving pardons in order to stop a war isn't winning. so the government didn't win the civil war. they were just able to convince the majority of the rebels to quit fighting.
Last edited by ilovesawedoffpump; 2008-10-21 at 21:54.
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# 9

2008-10-21, 21:57
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Re: American Revolutionaries
The Jews were getting starved and tortured during WW2, they didn't win shit you stupid fuck. Give up the smartass wannabe historian act, you don't fool anyone.
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# 10

2008-10-21, 22:03
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Re: American Revolutionaries
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Originally Posted by LJ
The Jews were getting starved and tortured during WW2, they didn't win shit you stupid fuck. Give up the smartass wannabe historian act, you don't fool anyone.
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yeah, those poor kikes  i wish i owned a media corporation and could convince idiots to believe whatever i pleased.
i wont bother explaining the condition in germany before hitler gained power, or how it was the jews responible for it, because your obviously beyond help. but 90% of germans supported hitler, why do you think that was? they obviously didn't feel to sorry for them huh? wonder why.
everybody always talks about what germany did to the jews, and never what the jews did to germany. it's so sad that people are tricked so easy.
Last edited by ilovesawedoffpump; 2008-10-21 at 22:09.
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