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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1

2008-10-20, 10:22
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Acolyte
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I come from a land down under
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Heroin
Have you shot up heroin? If so, how was it? I've always wanted to try it atleast once and I just wanna know what's the best way to do it. Also, how much would I need for one hit?
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# 2

2008-10-20, 10:30
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Acolyte
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Re: Heroin
well m8 its more efficient than any other route so ul need less but i cant tell u how much u will need bcus of such things like your tolerance and the purity of the h. also i would strongly advise thinking this shit through and if u decide to shoot h try and get some1 who knows what there doing to hit u up cus its so easy to OD on the shit. i have been shooting it on and off now for about 9 months and i have gone other twice already and had to be brought back round the IV naloxne.....not fun anyways if u do shoot safely ul fucking luv it P.S dont share works ok
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# 3

2008-10-20, 12:10
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Re: Heroin
Dont!!!!! it's too good and you will do it again, and again. IF YOU MUST DO HEROIN smoke it. no chance of OD (because ur doing a little at a time and u'll pass out before you die) but it's still very likely you will get addicted. if you have never done it just dont man. you really dont need too. it WILL Become your life. if you want to do it just follow the posts before mine advice so ur safe.
I wish i was religious because i would pray for you, but im not so i just dont give a damn, i gave you a fair warning. 
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# 4

2008-10-20, 15:09
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Re: Heroin
Not to be preachy, but don't fuck with stuff like H. It will only make you feel like God for a short period of time before it consumes your life. Read Burrough's book "Junky" or Slash's autobiography. Heroin will destroy anyone whether they are a skid row bum or a millionaire.
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# 5

2008-10-20, 15:20
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Super Moderator
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Sebastopol CA
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Re: Heroin
I'll be preachy then: Using needles is for losers and idiots.
Yes, it is the most effective way to get it into you, but it just isn't worth it.
Out of the multitude of junkies and addicts I've known - and yes there is a difference - I'veonly known maybe 2 who used a needle for any length of time and was still able to maintain a decent life.
I did heroin for 15 years and never once touched a needle.
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# 6

2008-10-20, 15:35
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Re: Heroin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
I'll be preachy then: Using needles is for losers and idiots.
Yes, it is the most effective way to get it into you, but it just isn't worth it.
Out of the multitude of junkies and addicts I've known - and yes there is a difference - I'veonly known maybe 2 who used a needle for any length of time and was still able to maintain a decent life.
I did heroin for 15 years and never once touched a needle.
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You sure as hell dodged a bullet with your name on it, Meta.
Most people that "Chip" will eventually become addicted.
Those that get addicted to snorting or smoking most likely will go to needles, not all but a lot.
Heres the possible outcomes of being a junky... 1. Overdose, dead. 2. Methadone or Subutex for the rest of your life. 3. Cold turkey... followed by copious amounts of alcohol to replace the junk 4. If you do manage to actually quit it takes so much time and effort to recover that most people don't follow through and just end up using again or 5. Some people actually quit and never go back, but I haven't seen many of these types.
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# 7

2008-10-20, 17:28
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Moderator
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Connecticut
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Re: Heroin
kid, the grass isn't always greener on the other side...
somethings are just better left wondered..
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the road of excess leads to the palace of madness
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# 8

2008-10-20, 18:04
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Re: Heroin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpj
Have you shot up heroin? If so, how was it? I've always wanted to try it atleast once and I just wanna know what's the best way to do it. Also, how much would I need for one hit?
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If your going to shoot something up once, atleast make it worthwhile. One word: SPEEDBALL
And to answer your questions:
1. No, street heroin for the most part is garbage.
2. Cant answer that, but from what I've seen from alot of my freinds and old dealers is a rush of pure bliss followed by heavy sedation.
3. Stamp bag, probaly even less
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# 9

2008-10-20, 19:58
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New Arrival
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Portland, Maine
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Re: Heroin
if someone told me when i was at the curious stage to NOT DO IT, i wouldnt have listened to them either.
be smarter than i was.
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# 10

2008-10-20, 22:01
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Regular
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Ohio
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Re: Heroin
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.14159265358979323846264
if someone told me when i was at the curious stage to NOT DO IT, i wouldnt have listened to them either.
be smarter than i was.
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Same here. Ever since I shot that shit that's the only way I wanna do any kind of hard drug and it's not fuckin worth it. Don't get me wrong the experience itself was amazing but it changed my mindset for the worse thats for sure.
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#11
 2008-10-20, 22:06
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activepsycho 
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Re: Heroin
I gotta play the devil's advocate on this one...heroin isn't a bigger deal than any of the stronger opioids. The bottom line is that any of the stronger opioids, of which heroin is the most common, can help turn one's life into a pile of shit.
The most important part of harm reduction when it comes to using opiates (after one has decided to use them) is avoiding intravenous administration. Actually, IV'ing any drug is very bad for recreational purposes. Smoking it is better and snorting is best. Rush-wise smoking>snorting, but opting to smoke instead of snort is the same step as opting to shoot instead of smoke. If one only ever snorts, that will be good enough.
And I've also heard that you can't do it two days in a row...sounds like bullshit, but apparently if you do two days, you do three, three then four, and so on...you get the picture.
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#12
 2008-10-20, 22:12
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Re: Heroin
And I've also heard that you can't do it two days in a row...sounds like bullshit, but apparently if you do two days, you do three, three then four, and so on...you get the picture.
Best word of advice I've heard all day.
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#13
 2008-10-20, 23:34
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Poop Dookie Shit Turd 
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Re: Heroin
After IVing it once, it won't be the same to do it any other way.
It's like that with all hard drugs.
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#14
 2008-10-21, 01:06
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Re: Heroin
If your going to shoot something up once, atleast make it worthwhile. One word: SPEEDBALL
well, good idea in concept. except coke/stims in general draw too many people to opiates that otherwise aren't prepared for it...
which, its not like you can be prepared for it..
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#15
 2008-10-21, 01:50
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beergoggles 
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Re: Heroin
Yes, I have shot up heroin numerous times. Street heroin is shit most of the time depending on where you are, and I use it for a cheap fix. I like shooting Oxycodone better. There is nothing like shooting opioids. Stick to snorting for now. When you no longer care about yourself, and you don't get high snorting $100 worth of drugs you are allowed to shoot, okay?
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#16
 2008-10-21, 01:53
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Re: Heroin
you don't get high snorting $100 worth of drugs you are allowed to shoot, okay?
you do realize thats natures way of telling you to chill out?
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#17
 2008-10-21, 05:31
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Street_Pharmacist420 
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Re: Heroin
\I like shooting Oxycodone better. There is nothing like shooting opioids.
I will never understand why so many people prefer shooting oxy then they do to heroin. The only reason I can see why would be purity(But then again, binders/fillers arent to good for your veins either). But once you get a solid hookup for h (not some hood nigger), then theres nothing like it. It's also a shitload cheaper then paying for OC. I just dont get it, if your already going through the risks of shooting up, why not take the time out to find a good dealer with quality product? 
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#18
 2008-10-21, 07:03
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Re: Heroin
I've personally been shooting for about a year, and I've never been addicted to drugs at all, of any kind. It's all about moderation; do you think snorting or smoking heroin is a safehouse against addiction? It is not; you can get addicted to heroin if you put it into your body, period. The reason I started shooting was because the dope was getting so shitty and cut to hell I kinda had to. Now it's the only way I do it. Luckily I know of a drug store that sells needles, so that's not a problem (it's 3 bucks for a bag of 10 needles). Now that that's out of the way:
Doing it feels fucking awesome. My favorite part is when I've got the needle in, and I see the blood entering up into the rig. MAN, I know at that point it's a matter of seconds before I get all the dope smacking me in my face at once. It's weird...all of a sudden you can literally just feel the drug overcome your body with pure ecstacy. It's fucking amazing. I'm surprised I haven't gotten hooked, and I know of the great capacity of getting hooked. You just need to know the dangers before you can reap the rewards.
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#19
 2008-10-21, 11:20
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Ed Lister 
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by Clover
I've personally been shooting for about a year, and I've never been addicted to drugs at all, of any kind. It's all about moderation; do you think snorting or smoking heroin is a safehouse against addiction? It is not; you can get addicted to heroin if you put it into your body, period. The reason I started shooting was because the dope was getting so shitty and cut to hell I kinda had to. Now it's the only way I do it. Luckily I know of a drug store that sells needles, so that's not a problem (it's 3 bucks for a bag of 10 needles). Now that that's out of the way:
Doing it feels fucking awesome. My favorite part is when I've got the needle in, and I see the blood entering up into the rig. MAN, I know at that point it's a matter of seconds before I get all the dope smacking me in my face at once. It's weird...all of a sudden you can literally just feel the drug overcome your body with pure ecstacy. It's fucking amazing. I'm surprised I haven't gotten hooked, and I know of the great capacity of getting hooked. You just need to know the dangers before you can reap the rewards.
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How often do you shoot up?
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#20
 2008-10-21, 13:46
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NotThatPhat 
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Re: Heroin
I have shot up black tar heroin a few times. The first time i did 1/4 of a .1 gram bag, i felt a really great rush for about 10 minutes then kind of sedated for about 2 hours after that. The second time was a few days later and i injected 1/2 of a bag and i got about the same feeling, i guess you could say i already had a little tolerance?
The last time I did it I did a whole bag at once and didnt really get all that high but it was still a very good rush but i wasnt gettin the sedation that i always look forward to. I would say give it a try unless you have had a hard time putting down other addictive substances.
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#21
 2008-10-21, 13:52
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Re: Heroin
How often do you shoot up?
Maybe once a month; depends. Sometimes I might do it a few weekends in a row, but usually not that much. I'm extremely high right now :D.
Also: Smoking it is fucking stupid unless you've got some really pure herron. Especially powder.
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#22
 2008-10-21, 14:17
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Re: Heroin
Basically OP, don't listen to any of these, if you want to do it....DO IT! its just a fucking drug like any of the other ones and you handled the others ok so far havent you!
Make sure though, when you do it you shoot PLENTY enough to get you nodding because if you don't your going to kick the shit out of yourself. Get a 20 bag and IV at least half of it to be safe, if you think you can handle it do the whole bag in one go.
Good luck my friend.
I hope this post illustrates something to you.
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#23
 2008-10-21, 15:15
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beergoggles 
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Re: Heroin
I will never understand why so many people prefer shooting oxy then they do to heroin. The only reason I can see why would be purity(But then again, binders/fillers arent to good for your veins either). But once you get a solid hookup for h (not some hood nigger), then theres nothing like it. It's also a shitload cheaper then paying for OC. I just dont get it, if your already going through the risks of shooting up, why not take the time out to find a good dealer with quality product?
I use an actual filter to get out the binders and crap, not a cotton. I much prefer knowing what is in my pill to not knowing what is in the powder as far as dose/ contaminants. Heroin IS much cheaper but I seem to always shoot up little amounts over time because I can't gauge the purity. I know for a fact I can shoot up 80mgs of OC and be just fine. I have no idea what dose is in that heroin.
I wish I could find a good H hook-up.
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#24
 2008-10-21, 15:45
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Regular
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Your medicine cabinet
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Re: Heroin
I will never understand why so many people prefer shooting oxy then they do to heroin.
A lot of people say they get a stimulating effect with their opiate high from the oxy that isn't present with dope.
I've used both more than once before (never I.V.) though and I never experienced this, but hey, everyone's different. All I know is that dope was always the better bang (no pun intended) for the buck and for whatever reason, didn't bother my stomach as much as oxy would. I never had much of a tolerance at all because I'd seriously only do strong opiates about once a month so anything more than 40 mg of OC and I'd spend half the high trying to keep still enough to not puke. Phenegran helped with that a lot but with dope I could snort/smoke 1-2 stamps of some good quality stuff and get higher than that OC 40 would take me with nary a side effect aside from going to town with the backscratcher....
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#25
 2008-10-21, 16:00
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beergoggles 
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Re: Heroin
A lot of people say they get a stimulating effect with their opiate high from the oxy that isn't present with dope.
I've used both more than once before (never I.V.) though and I never experienced this, but hey, everyone's different. All I know is that dope was always the better bang (no pun intended) for the buck and for whatever reason, didn't bother my stomach as much as oxy would. I never had much of a tolerance at all because I'd seriously only do strong opiates about once a month so anything more than 40 mg of OC and I'd spend half the high trying to keep still enough to not puke. Phenegran helped with that a lot but with dope I could snort/smoke 1-2 stamps of some good quality stuff and get higher than that OC 40 would take me with nary a side effect aside from going to town with the backscratcher....
The stimulating effect is very true. There isn't a rush from OC, but the "Instant high" is awesome. Heroin makes me want to sleep, OC makes me want to get up and do stuff. You really have to get used to the Oxy. I haven't thrown up in a very long time, but it used to be very common.
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#26
 2008-10-21, 16:19
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Your medicine cabinet
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Re: Heroin
The stimulating effect is very true. There isn't a rush from OC, but the "Instant high" is awesome. Heroin makes me want to sleep, OC makes me want to get up and do stuff. You really have to get used to the Oxy. I haven't thrown up in a very long time, but it used to be very common.
I will say, the few times I actually did wind up puking on oxy, it really wasn't a big deal; nothing like throwing up from a hangover or a general stomach bug. More like "Okay, vomit falling out of my mouth, whoop-dee-doo. Where's my cigarettes, anyways?"
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#27
 2008-10-21, 21:17
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Re: Heroin
i shot heroin about 8 months ago, never did it again. although, i WANTED to the next day, it was obvious to me that it would be a stupid idea, and that it would pass if i just ignored the desire for a day or two. it did.
as for what it was like, it was heavenly bliss and amazing peace. it was the 'china white' stuff, and i shot it with a new, wrapped diabetic needle.
i suggest you buy a single dose, shoot it, and then don't even think about doing it again for another couple months.
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#28
 2008-10-21, 23:57
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Re: Heroin
Well, I had only ever shot oxycontin for about 2 years. Last summer I scored some tar H.
Its back in town again and I shoot probably 3-4 times a week(which is too much,of course.)
but being a white kid from an "upper class" family in the suburbs,
not really a big deal to me.
I'm a white collared addict as far as right now goes. Yes, i do shoot.
I'd probably say to not shoot. Its a whole different level of drug use,and it will be the only way you want to use opiates. :P
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