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Old 2008-10-20, 03:38
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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I'm going to a rave next weekend. I wanted to do acid but my town is dry. I cant take E because I start probation a few days after. I saw a friend today who recommended DOC, I think. I also think it's in liquid form.

I have a few concerns.
1) I'm on an SSRI. Acid was fine. Bad combo?
2) With lsd the SSRI lessens the effect so I have to take more. Same with DOC?
3) I have a drug test three days after the rave. Can it cause fake positives or can it have other shit in the DOC?
4) I might be called on to drive sometime after the rave. When it comes to driving how does it compare to driving on acid or shrooms?
5) Any reason not to drink the next day?
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Old 2008-10-20, 03:42
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Sounds like fun to me. Read up, sucker.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/doc/
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Old 2008-10-20, 04:09
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1) I'm on an SSRI. Acid was fine. Bad combo?
2) With lsd the SSRI lessens the effect so I have to take more. Same with DOC?
3) I have a drug test three days after the rave. Can it cause fake positives or can it have other shit in the DOC?
4) I might be called on to drive sometime after the rave. When it comes to driving how does it compare to driving on acid or shrooms?
5) Any reason not to drink the next day?

1) Yes, it's MAOIs that you need to worry about. Some SSRIs are even believed to increase the effect of psychedelics (though this hasn't been proved)

2) Not sure, but it's not worth the risk. Taking a lot of acid is awesome. Taking a lot of DO_ is not.

3) 5 panel test? If so, then no. Psychedelics are not tested for.

4) How long is the rave? The plateau on DOC is very long. Much longer than LSD. If you're going to need to drive within 15 hours of dosing, I would say do not risk it, especially since you're unexperienced with the drug.

5) Nope. In fact, you might want to do it that night, if you're going to want to sleep.

Be careful on dosage, trip safe, and have fun.
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Old 2008-10-20, 04:47
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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Thanks. Good advice. Since it lasts so long, should I take it before the rave? Like before to make the hour long line more interesting and straighten me up sooner? I can't really take it too soon right?

Sounds like fun to me. Read up, sucker.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/doc/

First place I looked.
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Old 2008-10-20, 04:50
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Since it lasts so long, should I take it before the rave? Like before to make the hour long line more interesting and straighten me up sooner? I can't really take it too soon right?

Yep. Especially since the onset can take upwards of 2 hours, I believe. In fact, the sooner, the better.
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Old 2008-10-20, 12:56
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prepared to get floored. i would take just a hit 2 if ur brave if its good product. that shit will strait fuck u up. cool thing is though u willstill be able to talk to people and shit like normally but u might bot be able to understand them once the aural disruption shit starts happenin.
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Old 2008-10-20, 23:04
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3) I have a drug test three days after the rave. Can it cause fake positives...

Not "fake positives" per se. However, the NIDA amphetamine test is reputed to be very nonspecific (lighting up on MDMA, for instance, which is obviously ring-substituted), and you will be consuming 3-5 milligrams of an amphetamine.

On the other hand, you will only be consuming about 3-5 milligrams. So, God only knows.
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Old 2008-10-21, 01:09
Achilles Armour Achilles Armour is offline
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I just barely bothered to look at the chemestry build up of DOC. Didn't know it had amphetamine. Sketch as fuck with probation starting like two and a half days later.

Will taking an adderall on tuesday (tomorrow) effect my trip on saturday?
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Old 2008-10-21, 01:16
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Nope.
 
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