Well those are the tools most effectively used but if used without understanding them you could simply make for an awkward situation. You must also be able to decypher reaction make yourself comfortable, because if your uncomfortable they-re uncomfortable.

Again, ignoring physical attraction for now. Not saying it's not important, it's just irrelevant for my situation.

Does that mean you're butt fucking ugly?

Fuck off from my thread if you aren't gonna help

I'm serious, if you're really fucking ugly then he probably wont want to be anything more than a friend with you.

Physical attraction isn't a problem because 1. we talk on msn; and 2. he's seen my pic. He knows what I look like and I am not ugly. He's just not attracted to me and I want to change this.

Have you met IRL?

That's not important.

I want to know how to make a guy like me more via msn conversations only. Either you can help me with this, or you cannot. I am not gonna answer any more questions.

Okay,

It's going to be harder to get him to like you via MSN as opposed to real life; just give him some space and don't get too interested or it'll become creepy for him.

He knows what I look like and I am not ugly.

See, that's where you'd be wrong. You are ugly. Hideously so.

Here's a litmus test: offer to have sex with him. If he declines, you're ugly. If he accepts, then you know he likes you and your problem is solved.

Get hot or go home.

But seriously? Get a boob job, blond hair dye and some dark eye makeup, and you'll find a guy. He won't be much of a catch, mind, but in your case I wouldn't complain.

The above two people are stupid fucks who can't read.

I already stated in my original post to ignore physical attraction. I only want to know what to do to make a guy like me more. This is the only part I am interested in. If you only want to post in my thread to tell me I am ugly, well, you suck.

In other words, I need tips on behaviour.

et a boob job, blond hair dye

She's Asian, she'd look weird with blond hair.

I'd say flirt with the guy, talk dirty, say you want to give him a blowjob, basically give him a boner every time you talk to him. Make him think of sex when he thinks of you.

Guys are really simple. Most of the time when a guy is talking to a girl he's thinking sex. You won't believe it but it's true. Most guys have to hide/suppress this fact, so can appear uninterested in you. That's why it's neat to take the first step, say I accept your sexuality, share your sexuality with me.

Ask him about his sex life. Ask him does he whack off (he does, all guys do). Ask him what sort of porn he likes. It doesn't need to be explicitly sexual, but odds are he'll pop a boner when talking to you.

A relationship needs to be built, it doesn't generally just happen. Sex is the mortar that binds men and women together, so use it. You are clearly comfortable with each other on the non-sexual level.

Men are visual. You can be the most engaging, intelligent, funny, benevolent woman on earth, but if you're not even somewhat attractive...you can forget about it. It's not nice but it's true.

lol owned. By a female. Thats extra ownage on the interwebz.

over msn? who the fuck is gonna like you over msn unless they are physically attracted to you. If you keep showing interest over msn, and they arent attracted to you, they will just get creeped out, no matter what. believe me.

Men are visual. You can be the most engaging, intelligent, funny, benevolent woman on earth, but if you're not even somewhat attractive...you can forget about it. It's not nice but it's true.

Doesn't the same thing apply to females? Would you date a guy with an awesome personality if he was over 300 pounds and looked like a retarded elephant?

http://loscuatroojos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ugly_fat_man_picture-_funfry.jpg

^^^If he was rich women would fuck swamp thing (look at Tom Clancy).

Men can love and hump just about anything. Visual appearance is way overrated by women. They just don't know what men want.

Doesn't the same thing apply to females? Would you date a guy with an awesome personality if he was over 300 pounds and looked like a retarded elephant?


Well, of course looks are important to women as well; I can't speak for all women, but I can say that in my experience most girls are so desperate to be loved that they can forgive just about any flaw.

Men are visual. You can be the most engaging, intelligent, funny, benevolent woman on earth, but if you're not even somewhat attractive...you can forget about it. It's not nice but it's true.

I am gonna say it one last time

I do NOT care to know if I am attractive enough for him to like me. I DON"T care. I ONLY want behavioural tips. So the way I see it is real simple. Either you have behavioural tips for me, or you don't. Spare me your advice. I don't need it. And I don't care if I am "wasting my time". Either you want to help and give me WHAT I WANT, or you don't.

WAN I already fucking told you today, move to the Jane and Finch area, you'll love it there. You will meet lots of friendly people and probably end up falling in love.

She's Asian, she'd look weird with blond hair.

I'd say flirt with the guy, talk dirty, say you want to give him a blowjob, basically give him a boner every time you talk to him. Make him think of sex when he thinks of you.

Guys are really simple. Most of the time when a guy is talking to a girl he's thinking sex. You won't believe it but it's true. Most guys have to hide/suppress this fact, so can appear uninterested in you. That's why it's neat to take the first step, say I accept your sexuality, share your sexuality with me.

Ask him about his sex life. Ask him does he whack off (he does, all guys do). Ask him what sort of porn he likes. It doesn't need to be explicitly sexual, but odds are he'll pop a boner when talking to you.

A relationship needs to be built, it doesn't generally just happen. Sex is the mortar that binds men and women together, so use it. You are clearly comfortable with each other on the non-sexual level.


That'll just make you look like a slut, meet him IRL if you want the relationship to go anywhere.

I am gonna say it one last time

I do NOT care to know if I am attractive enough for him to like me. I DON"T care. I ONLY want behavioural tips. So the way I see it is real simple. Either you have behavioural tips for me, or you don't. Spare me your advice. I don't need it. And I don't care if I am "wasting my time". Either you want to help and give me WHAT I WANT, or you don't.


you can act however the fuck you want you simple bitch, if the faggot doesn't think you are even slightly attractive he isn't gonna want to stick his dick anywhere near you. and dont even bother moving closer to him just because you "might" hang out more, if he isn't attracted to you and you keep tryings he will just end up putting a restraining order on your hippo ass.

spoiled brat. grow the fuck up.

Don't act so needy, this asking questions thing might seem like a solid plan but it's not. Ever heard that saying 'treat em mean, keep em keen'? It's not entirely true but it would do you well to act a little more aloof than you currently are. Men want a woman who has her own life and interests, not someone who only talks about him and pretends to like whatever he likes.
And you will need to go outside eventually.

you can act however the fuck you want you simple bitch, if the faggot doesn't think you are even slightly attractive he isn't gonna want to stick his dick anywhere near you. and dont even bother moving closer to him just because you "might" hang out more, if he isn't attracted to you and you keep tryings he will just end up putting a restraining order on your hippo ass.

spoiled brat. grow the fuck up.

In other words, you dont have any behavioural tips for me.

Fuck off please.

you want a behavioral tip? be your self. don't act needy, just slightly interested, and flirty.


now GTFO my totse you simple bitch.

This might help you wan, I googled your situation.

http://www.coolchaser.com/themes/keywords/helping+ugly+women+get+laid+since

In other words, you dont have any behavioural tips for me.

Fuck off please.

You stupid fucking troll, 90% of communication is composed of body language, in other words your skeezy ass isn't going to get some ignent fag to like you.

Even if you do have have a web cam they're too shitty to display subtle body gestures; added to that you're probably not using a microphone to speak with him. Get your fat pale ass outside and meet him, while you're at it get some cosmetic surgery.

Doesn't the same thing apply to females? Would you date a guy with an awesome personality if he was over 300 pounds and looked like a retarded elephant?

http://loscuatroojos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ugly_fat_man_picture-_funfry.jpg

i'd hit that but only because of his personality of course ;)

You stupid fucking troll, 90% of communication is composed of body language,

OMG you don't actually believe all that body language bullshit do you?

i'd hit that but only because of his personality of course ;)
I'd hit that cos it'd be like a punching bag that screams :)

She's Asian, she'd look weird with blond hair.

I'd say flirt with the guy, talk dirty, say you want to give him a blowjob, basically give him a boner every time you talk to him. Make him think of sex when he thinks of you.

Guys are really simple. Most of the time when a guy is talking to a girl he's thinking sex. You won't believe it but it's true. Most guys have to hide/suppress this fact, so can appear uninterested in you. That's why it's neat to take the first step, say I accept your sexuality, share your sexuality with me.

Ask him about his sex life. Ask him does he whack off (he does, all guys do). Ask him what sort of porn he likes. It doesn't need to be explicitly sexual, but odds are he'll pop a boner when talking to you.

A relationship needs to be built, it doesn't generally just happen. Sex is the mortar that binds men and women together, so use it. You are clearly comfortable with each other on the non-sexual level.

I agree with this. Beyond that it's up to individual preferences. There might be certain behaviors that are statistically favored, I don't know what those would be, but I can almost guarantee that there's a preference out there for every attitude you could have.

I also don't think the visual thing is quite that universal. There's a pervasive sense that for men especially looks have an absolute power to create attraction, and while that might be true for a lot of people, I get the feeling that a lot of it is a self fulfilling prophecy. It's the way you're supposed to feel, and people strive to meet expectations. It's like trying to find traits mentioned in your astrological sign or whatever in your personality; if someone respects that sort of thing, they're going to find them whether they already existed or not. Ideals of beauty do depend on your culture to some extent. I'm sure there's something to it but I also think the guys for who it's less important are underrepresented. You don't need to see someone to be attracted to them.

I agree with this. Beyond that it's up to individual preferences. There might be certain behaviors that are statistically favored, I don't know what those would be, but I can almost guarantee that there's a preference out there for every attitude you could have.

I also don't think the visual thing is quite that universal. There's a pervasive sense that for men especially looks have an absolute power to create attraction, and while that might be true for a lot of people, I get the feeling that a lot of it is a self fulfilling prophecy. It's the way you're supposed to feel, and people strive to meet expectations. It's like trying to find traits mentioned in your astrological sign or whatever in your personality; if someone respects that sort of thing, they're going to find them whether they already existed or not. Ideals of beauty do depend on your culture to some extent. I'm sure there's something to it but I also think the guys for who it's less important are underrepresented. You don't need to see someone to be attracted to them.

This guy has a point.

Also I would like to add that I believe that it's possible to like someone in a romantic sense without being attracted to him. This guy that I like, I have seen his pic and honestly I don't find him all that attractive. However, I am still crazy about him.

This guy that I like, I have seen his pic and honestly I don't find him all that attractive. However, I am still crazy about him.

Thats because your desperate. I mean, common, your like literately a 40 year old virgin. I'd be desperate too.

OMG you don't actually believe all that body language bullshit do you?

Yeah I do, not 90% but I think it's fairly important.

Yeah I do, not 90% but I think it's fairly important.

Yeah body language is important. But a commonly overlooked factor is also not what you say but how you say it.

Thats because your desperate. I mean, common, your like literately a 40 year old virgin. I'd be desperate too.

No, I am not desparate. I get asked out by guys in real life, 20 something semi-professionals who are decent looking, to boot.

I never mentioned this because it's pointless. No way to prove it.

Also, don't you weight like 145 pounds? That's kind of scrawny for a white guy. How tall are you?

No, I am not desparate. I get asked out by guys in real life, 20 something semi-professionals who are decent looking, to boot.

I never mentioned this because it's pointless. No way to prove it.

Also, don't you weight like 145 pounds? That's kind of scrawny for a white guy. How tall are you?

Haha, saw that post eh, I'm not that tall, under 6 feet, and yeah I'm pretty skinny right now. Coming off a year of amphetamine abuse. I'm working out daily now though (and eating a ton), and surprisingly I can lift a lot of weight for someone my size. I guess my muscles went down a lot in size but not that much in strength. In 2 months I will be ripped again. I already got a 6 pack after 1 week of working out. And btw, I was going to reply to your thread on faking ADD before it go closed. First off I would recommend you just stay away from the shit, but if your determined all you have to do is look up the drug they prescribed you, memorize the bad side effects, then go back to the doctor and say you're getting those side effects. They will keep changing the drugs, and you might have to go back 2-3-4-5-6 times. But eventually they put you on a script of adderall or dexedrine, thats the shit you're after.

Tell him about all the skimp underwear you bought

Tell him about how you hooked up with your best friend (the girl)

Just say really sexual stuff to him, try to almost cyber with him. After a couple days, he will be your minion.

Alright WAN? I have some advice for you, I cannot vouch for it's veracity with all chaps, but I'll give you my perspective.

Firstly, are looks important? Well, there is no doubt that they do carry some weight if you are jut looking for a casual fling. However, if you want something meaningful with this person, gain emotional depth.

If he has an emotional connection with you, looks will cease to matter as much.

Just engage him in conversation - Talk about yourself to him, your life, aspirations and dreams.

Be interested in what he is saying, but not rabidly so.
Just be yourself. From what I can gather, you seem alright, when not insulting people. ;)

But look, sadly you cannot GET someone to like you, they have to be open to the idea of a relationship developing.

If they are not, then all yours efforts will be for naught.
Anyway, take what you will from this.. Best of luck :)

Suck his dick.

suck his dick when he isnt looking

Suck his dick from behind.

lol rusty trombone.

lol rusty trombone.

lol thats an awesome name

I was going to bash the op for keep saying " that doesn't matter" then i forgot my smart ass remark.

so....

butt ugly bitch