I've seen people pay close to that a pill on the streets, what's your point? Availability has a huge affect on pricing, and while you might think you're special, I'm sure you euro-fags pay double, or even triple sometimes, based on what I've read here, what I pay for some good bud.

^ depends on the bud though....

some bud is harsh as a steel brush, others are smooth and nice(r)

Show him the test results. Actually, I make sure to give my dealers test kits as well, so they know what they are buying and selling. Totally prevents this shit.

Yeah out bud is so much more expensive
Even given that £1= roughly $2

And were not fags , well us in England aint , cant speak about the rest of Europe.

Maybe that's true but my point being is that people are paying £10, that's almost 5 times what they would normally pay... For a tiny pill that probably doesnt even contain what they actually want and if it does its probably only in trace amounts. At least if I pay three times what you pay for weed I still know what I'm getting is weed and not something else (although the quality of some of our weed is questionable.)

Oh and us "euro fags" might get ripped off on weed but we pay a fraction what you pay for MDMA, Pills and a few other things and ours laws are a hell of a lot more relaxed, at least we dont live in a society where any reaction to a funny smell or buying a can of coke results in OMGZ teh terrorist/methlab call teh fedz. At least I know if I get caught smoking all the police are going to tell me to do is move on and im not going to get my arse ripped out being searched and arrested.

Anyway this is not that this thread is about so il just leave it.

Show him the test results. Actually, I make sure to give my dealers test kits as well, so they know what they are buying and selling. Totally prevents this shit.

Iv tried doing that with a couple of my friends who deal but like I said, most people dont seem to realise that pills ARENT meant to contain things like speed, meth, BZP mcPP. The way the majority of people seem to see it is that pills are pills whatever they contain they do the same thing. Iv tried explaining to people but iv just given up, as long as I know what im getting myself is clean I cant be bothered to care anymore.

Maybe that's true but my point being is that people are paying £10, that's almost 5 times what they would normally pay... For a tiny pill that probably doesnt even contain what they actually want and if it does its probably only in trace amounts. At least if I pay three times what you pay for weed I still know what I'm getting is weed and not something else (although the quality of some of our weed is questionable.)

Oh and us "euro fags" might get ripped off on weed but we pay a fraction what you pay for MDMA, Pills and a few other things and ours laws are a hell of a lot more relaxed, at least we dont live in a society where any reaction to a funny smell or buying a can of coke results in OMGZ teh terrorist/methlab call teh fedz. At least I know if I get caught smoking all the police are going to tell me to do is move on and im not going to get my arse ripped out being searched and arrested.

Anyway this is not that this thread is about so il just leave it.



Iv tried doing that with a couple of my friends who deal but like I said, most people dont seem to realise that pills ARENT meant to contain things like speed, meth, BZP mcPP. The way the majority of people seem to see it is that pills are pills whatever they contain they do the same thing. Iv tried explaining to people but iv just given up, as long as I know what im getting myself is clean I cant be bothered to care anymore.
Oh, well then if you have tried teaching them, and they fail to listen, quit hanging out with idiots.


Or do what I do. Present things in a manner that catches their attention. If you tell someone all the things that can go wrong from dosing 10 random pills they tend to pay more attention, especially when there are several etards around to PROVE your example. Learn what is actually going on in the brain, learn how to explain it, and people LISTEN.



No one is going to listen to you if you don't seem to know what you are talking about. Not saying you don't know, just saying your presentation is bad. Be passionate and knowledgable.

Maybe that's true but my point being is that people are paying £10, that's almost 5 times what they would normally pay... For a tiny pill that probably doesnt even contain what they actually want and if it does its probably only in trace amounts. At least if I pay three times what you pay for weed I still know what I'm getting is weed and not something else (although the quality of some of our weed is questionable.)

Oh and us "euro fags" might get ripped off on weed but we pay a fraction what you pay for MDMA, Pills and a few other things and ours laws are a hell of a lot more relaxed, at least we dont live in a society where any reaction to a funny smell or buying a can of coke results in OMGZ teh terrorist/methlab call teh fedz. At least I know if I get caught smoking all the police are going to tell me to do is move on and im not going to get my arse ripped out being searched and arrested.

Anyway this is not that this thread is about so il just leave it.


Yeah my bad, I just woke up hungover, bitter and angry.

Thats completely true, In this small town i live in E can sell for 25 bucks a pill just because its almost completely unavailabe. The dealers have to go into the closest city's and hit up all there contacts for it around here.

Just about every person i have met that deals E on a regular basis has used test kits. A smart dealer knows that if he sells shit he gets a bad rep and nobody will come back to him for pills. But if he sells great clean rolls then he stands to make a ton of money off repeat customers. I made this mistake with some friends. We wanted to roll and did not have much E esperience so we bought 2 pills each off the first person we could find who had rolls. Turns out they were your run of the mill meth-bombs with very little MDMA. Later on that night just after we each took our first pill another friend offers to call his dealer who shows up with a bag of pills and a test kit. he tested our pills for us and then tested on of his. He had good rolls and was acutally selling them for less than half of what we paid for the shit meth-bombs.

I say if you are friends with the dealer then tell him. Im sure he would want to know so he does not end up in a world of hurt when he sells the wrong people pills full of speed claiming that they are bomb rolls. But as said before if he is just some guy you call occasionally just to buy drugs then dont bother. He probably wont believe you or he knows theyre shit and just does not care what he sells to you.

maybe he got ripped himself? IF he normally sells good rolls then somebody up the ladder tricked him into buying the shit and he may not even know what he has. Tell him to buy a test kit and find out for himself. It will save him alot of money and troubles in the long haul.

If hes selling them hes probably done them/heard they're amps..I wouldn't bring it up unless you're getting more (different) pills later then mention it, see what he says...although he'll probably just say something about them being a bad batch, but the new ones are the shit...

If someone gives you "ecstacy" which is meth, you should give them "soda" which is five milligrams of scopolamine.

It is only justice.

If someone gives you "ecstacy" which is meth, you should give them "soda" which is five milligrams of scopolamine.

It is only justice.
I don't see what the big deal is myself...when I buy pressed pills it adds a bit of entertainment in itself, the best E I ever had was, I'm sure, a cocktail of who the fuck knows what. Regardless of what was in there I had a damned good time, possibly moreso than had I been doing "pure" MDMA. If I want a clean MDMA high I just buy gelcaps.

I don't see what the big deal is myself...when I buy pressed pills it adds a bit of entertainment in itself, the best E I ever had was, I'm sure, a cocktail of who the fuck knows what. Regardless of what was in there I had a damned good time, possibly moreso than had I been doing "pure" MDMA. If I want a clean MDMA high I just buy gelcaps.
It could still be a 2Cx or god knows what else.

It could still be a 2Cx or god knows what else.
Regardless, as long as it has an acceptable pros:cons ratio I really couldn't care less what was in there.

This thread is remminding me of my stupid friends who are like 500 dollars in debt for ecstacy and keep getting more.

If they're taking 7 over a period of 24 hours, i think they need to start taking different drugs.

Lol iv seen people pay £10 for a pill at raves!!!

$50 is quite common at a rave here, I've even seen as high as $75

Your best course of action is bringing it up with your dealer, but don't accuse him of ripping you off. Keep the conversation productive. Tell him that you tested his pills (which he sold to you as E) and tell him what you tested it against, and then say that it came up with a positive result for amphetamines (or whatever it was). See what his reaction is, if he seems genuinely surprised, then he probably got ripped off somewhere down the line, too. In which case, there's probably not a hell of a lot he can do about it either. If he maintains that it's good shit, or otherwise doesn't want to know about it, then it's obvious that he intentionally ripped you off. If he won't give you new ones, or your money back (which almost never happens), then I say just cut your losses and either have them, or sell them to some other poor sucker. If he's some random guy, or you don't know him well, then don't buy off him again. If he's a friend, it complicates matters somewhat, just talk it out, and see what you can find out. It sucks, but it's the gamble you take with Es. At least you tested it, though. A lot would have just blindly consumed it.

$50 is quite common at a rave here, I've even seen as high as $75

Jesus Christ. The most I've ever paid is $30, and the most expensive I've heard of (before reading this) was $45. People honestly pay $75 for a goog?

30 buckz MINIMUM here

30 buckz MINIMUM here

Geez. It's not my intention to brag, seeing as how most people can (and probably do) get cheaper than me--but I pay anywhere between $10-$20 for one in Adelaide. You'll occasionally get the odd shortage, and the price goes up accordingly, but other than that, prices are relatively consistent. I mean, $30 isn't unheard of around here, especially if you're purchasing in a club, or at a rave. But $30 minimum? You poor Kiwis. :(

I cant understand how people would even be prepared to spend so much on a pill if you dont even know what it contains or how much. Maybe if they were paying that much for MD but at that price anyone with some sense would just not do them.

The most I've paid is £2.50 [$5].

Your best course of action is bringing it up with your dealer, but don't accuse him of ripping you off. Keep the conversation productive. Tell him that you tested his pills (which he sold to you as E) and tell him what you tested it against, and then say that it came up with a positive result for amphetamines (or whatever it was). See what his reaction is, if he seems genuinely surprised, then he probably got ripped off somewhere down the line, too. In which case, there's probably not a hell of a lot he can do about it either. If he maintains that it's good shit, or otherwise doesn't want to know about it, then it's obvious that he intentionally ripped you off. If he won't give you new ones, or your money back (which almost never happens), then I say just cut your losses and either have them, or sell them to some other poor sucker. If he's some random guy, or you don't know him well, then don't buy off him again. If he's a friend, it complicates matters somewhat, just talk it out, and see what you can find out. It sucks, but it's the gamble you take with Es. At least you tested it, though. A lot would have just blindly consumed it.



Jesus Christ. The most I've ever paid is $30, and the most expensive I've heard of (before reading this) was $45. People honestly pay $75 for a goog?

To be honest, that $75 was being paid for a ridiculously good pill that later was revealed to be 2C-B. Still obscenely overpriced, but probably the best bikkie toc ome through town in a year or so... Which really tells you something about the quality of pills in my area.

Or be nice, act like you're on his side, and be like "Hey bro i think you might have gotten screwed over by your supplier when you bought the X" / "your stuff got mixed up" / "dude i think you might have given me amps on accident, could you spot me some X for free" / etc., and then work from there.

To be honest, that $75 was being paid for a ridiculously good pill that later was revealed to be 2C-B. Still obscenely overpriced, but probably the best bikkie toc ome through town in a year or so... Which really tells you something about the quality of pills in my area.
Still, thats a stupid fucking waste of money. Buying "bulk" $100 or more you can get MDMA gelcaps for $2/ea...not to mention, throwing away $75 for a pill that you don't know the contents/amount of?

when I buy pressed pills it adds a bit of entertainment in itself... I really couldn't care less what was in there.

Oh, god, how I wish you lived near me...

I'd be rich. Sooooo fucking rich. Shot, if I sold to anyone else without accurate information, but soooo fucking rich.

Oh, god, how I wish you lived near me...

I'd be rich. Sooooo fucking rich. Shot, if I sold to anyone else without accurate information, but soooo fucking rich.
LOL @ pissed off ravers with no MDMA shooting someone.

30 buckz MINIMUM here

Not if you know where to look... ;)

But yeah, most people who don't know a dealer directly are gonna be paying $50/pill...

If you can actually find pills with MDMA in the at all. NZ sucks.

LOL @ pissed off ravers with no MDMA shooting someone.

Maybe not the ravers(though perhaps very few of them), but I guarantee you some of the dealers will shoot your ass if you rip them off on any decent amount. Ripping off the end consumer might carry little risk of retaliation, the further up the chain you go though....

but I guarantee you some of the dealers will shoot your ass if you rip them off on any decent amount.

Most dealers don't give a shit what they sell as long as it sells.



Buying "bulk" $100 or more you can get MDMA gelcaps for $2/ea.

Jesus Fucking Christ! What compels people to post shit like this!

$100 for 5 motherfucking grams! That's cheaper then Fucking Amsterdam!

DIAF Shitbird

Still, thats a stupid fucking waste of money. Buying "bulk" $100 or more you can get MDMA gelcaps for $2/ea...not to mention, throwing away $75 for a pill that you don't know the contents/amount of?



Which is perfectly fine when those prices and quantities are available, BUT THEY AREN'T. And importing RCs for yourself is next to impossible.

Fuck, I don't pay that much, but the average street dealer will be charging along those lines.

ours laws are a hell of a lot more relaxed, at least we dont live in a society where any reaction to a funny smell or buying a can of coke results in OMGZ teh terrorist

Which fucking Britain Britain Britain are you in?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece

Which fucking Britain Britain Britain are you in?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece

Um, well I do that anyway seeing as my phone is on contract... If its that bad its not difficult to get a phone and pay as you go sim without having to go through all that bullshit if you really want to stay anonymous.

Get used to it, this shit isn't just happening in Britain its happening all over the world and has been going on for longer than you might think.

Lol iv seen people pay £10 for a pill at raves!!!

I've seen 7 go for a tenner at the end of a rave. ;o

Anyway, op. You bought some pills as MDMA?? Just buy some MDMA as MDMA dude. Pills are the scum of the fucking earth, believe me. Amps is lucky, it coulda been anything. If it's in big dark crystally rocks then you're onto a winner.

Just take a test kit and buy another pill and test it in front of him. He might not know he is buying bad pills.


Or maybe he does know?

Nowhere near accurate.

£2.50 [$5].

£1= roughly $2

Which is perfectly fine when those prices and quantities are available, BUT THEY AREN'T.

Prices like that don't exist anywhere on earth.

Lets take a MDMA world tour shell we?

Netherlands, molly mecca, source of most of the MDMA on Earth: 1 gram = 30usd minimum.

Cross a boarder or hop the channel and you're looking at 50% increase in price at least.

Canada(most mdma/E that's sold in the US moves through Canada) 50+usd a gram.

By the time it crosses the 49th parallel you'll be looking at 60-70usd/gram(for major trafficking hubs) with 100usd/gram commonplace and prices north of 150usd/gram hardly unusual.


Nowhere near accurate.

The Exchange rate or the price?

Those prices are common in the UK for pills, of course UK pills rarely contain mdma.

Back to the topic

This is a lessen in why you should test before you buy, if the dealer refuses to let you color test then find a new dealer(preferably one who sells molly(which you should still color test))

Chances are that if the dealer doesn't already know the pills are bunk, he won't care if you tell him anyway.

you could find your situation that your dealer realizes your smarter than he is, and could find you testing pills for him on a regular basis...

Prices like that don't exist anywhere on earth.
Canada(most mdma/E that's sold in the US moves through Canada) 50+usd a gram.


I call bullshit on that. I live in Ottawa and I've seen pure (tested) mdma in crystal form for $35 CAD a gram. If you've actually bought mdma for that much in Canada, you got ripped off.

I call bullshit on that. I live in Ottawa and I've seen pure (tested) mdma in crystal form for $35 CAD a gram. If you've actually bought mdma for that much in Canada, you got ripped off.

Did you put it in a mass spectrometer? No? Then you don't actually know it was pure. I don't pretend to know the prices in canada, you could very well be right about that, but just because a reagent test didn't show any other active ingredients doesn't mean it wasn't cut down with something inert. I honestly don't know how often that happens with crystaline MDMA, but I bet it does happen.

I call bullshit on that. I live in Ottawa and I've seen pure (tested) mdma in crystal form for $35 CAD a gram. If you've actually bought mdma for that much in Canada, you got ripped off.

Truly? 35cad/gram, sold by the single gram?

The number for Canada was based on my experience in BC, so it's entirely possible that Ottawa is cheaper. However, 35cad for a single gram would be inline/slightly-less than retail prices in Holland.

It would be rare for goods to sell for less in a destination country than in the source country in an legitimate market, and most queer in an illegitimate market dealing in contraband.

Do you happen to know what a key goes for in Ottawa? Perhaps the seemingly anomalous retail pricing is an artifact of the large volume that moves through that region.

I honestly don't know how often that happens with crystaline MDMA, but I bet it does happen.


Although cutting mdma powder happens(and it seems to be happening more often), it's still not a normal/routine part of the trade(as it is with coke/ron/meth etc).