totse.com | Flash 10 released

RAOVQ · #1 2008-10-16, 08:16

Thats right, they finally released it.

It gives slightly better preformance over 9.x, but it still lagged like hell when i tried to do 'theater mode' for a youtube video. a worthy download, but not the upgrade i was hoping for.

clicky:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash

Prometheum · #2 2008-10-16, 22:29

How is this relevant to this forum?

RAOVQ · #3 2008-10-17, 02:46

How is it not?
Lack of acceptable flash is a massive problem for linux, a deal breaker for some. Some people may care when a better version comes out.

Prometheum · #4 2008-10-17, 05:57

GNU/Linux has two swf players -- Gnash and SWFdec. Proprietary software isn't part of the GNU/Linux operating system.

Linux has no flash players and never will, because it's a kernel.

RAOVQ · #5 2008-10-17, 08:18

dude, i really don't give a shit about your open source crusade or semantics. your world must be pretty small at the moment if this is your biggest concern.

all flash players for linux suck, but the best by far is the official one.

Prometheum · #6 2008-10-17, 14:18

If they suck, fix them. In the meantime, not only is the 'official' one far more of a resource whore, it has cookies that you can't delete and break anonymity like Windows. Oh, and it can attack your router via arbitrary UPnP.I would never install that on any system I would want to keep secure.

RAOVQ · #7 2008-10-17, 14:50

Its not perfect, but it's far better than the free alternatives.

I'm not a programmer and im not going to use some second rate shit just because i know that if i wanted to, i could look at lines and lines of code that is completely meaningless to me.

Beka · #8 2008-10-17, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prometheum View Post

Proprietary software isn't part of the GNU/Linux operating system.
l.

So if I run an OS that is composed by:

* The linux kernel
* Plenty of GNU apps
* Some non-free applications and libraries (like adobe flash player)

How should I call it?? Is it OK if I call it "Linux"?

Prometheum · #9 2008-10-17, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beka View Post

So if I run an OS that is composed by:

* The linux kernel
* Plenty of GNU apps
* Some non-free applications and libraries (like adobe flash player)

How should I call it?? Is it OK if I call it "Linux"?

See, up until the last part, I'd call the system 'GNU' or 'Gnu', referring to the OS that Richard Stallman started in the 80's. That OS was always intended to include things written by people other than the GNU Project staff proper, specifically, any free software. TeX was the first of these (since it predates the GNU Project).

Gnu is a collective term. It doesn't refer to any executable or library, it refers to the collection of executables and libraries and other things which make up an OS. But Gnu only includes free software properly, so you'd be using a modified, non-free Gnu system.

Seriously though, just use Gnash. SO much lighter and you don't have to worry about Adobe tracking you.

Mutant Funk Drink · #10 2008-10-18, 02:26

I can't believe you guys get your panties all in a bunch over what name you should call an operating system.

I tried the Flash 10 player for linux on ubuntu, and it actually works really well! The sound problems have been improved, it doesn't lag nearly as much, and firefox doesn't crash anymore when there are too many youtube videos open.

I'd really like to use Gnash or SWFdec, but so far neither one are completely usable. Sorry, but this is one battle where proprietary software is winning so far. I've tried gnash and there were so many flaws with it. I'd try it again but I doubt that much has really changed in six months. Maybe I'm wrong.