I have no opiate tolerance, and an 0C20.

Judging by erowid, a quarter of this snorted should make me feel alright. How do I split it right, and do I have to suck the coating off?

You can suck the time release off pretty quickly. You'll know by the taste once it's dissolved.

If you only have a 20mg, I suggest you rail the whole thing.

The only time people really quarter pills is when they are 80's.

Do you really need help when it comes to crushing the pill? It's pretty straightforward.

Well i kinda want the pill to last, I don't need help crushing it, just splitting it.

Erowid says that 5mg insuffulated is a common dose w/ no tolerance. And 10mg eaten make me feel good.

If your going to nod you might as well nod. Trying to make a 20mg last is like trying to prolong the life of a six pack. It's in vain.

Alright I'll do half lol. Im going to my cabin, and just got busted with drugs today. Yay.

Don't do half, do the whole thing. Erowid is generally a shit reference for dosage.

I agree unless your less than 140 lbs do thewhole thing.

Agreed. Take the whole thing. Either snort half and chew the other half or chew the whole thing.

I thought they were meant to have an ingredient that became a gel on contact with water in order to prevent this?

snort half, eat half. don't kid yourself.

These arent Teva's

erowids oxy doses are really low...

without a tolerance i will rail a 30mg roxi and get no nausea... just right where i want to be in euphoric bliss... 20-25mg will have me feeling pretty good but but as doped up as i would like...

pissed me off a couple nights ago... got a 30 and my sister wouldnt stop bugging me about getting a little bump of it... and i let her, so i railed about 25mg to reduce the amount of pain i was in from a bruised sternum i got that day in weight training... made breathing less painful and i felt pretty fucking good but not quite enough to get a nod going...

check the pill on the internet to see if it is going to gel up in your nose... i always get 30s... so i dont have to deal with the coating shit, just crush, chop, and snort...

Since it's you're first time you'd definitely feel decent after railing 10mg, and, since it's you're first time, you wont know what you're missing!

Seriously though, rail the whole thing.

Yeah I just parachuted roughly half of it, railing the other in a bit here.

Dude it is way better IMO to just snort the fucker

Would have made 2 fat lines, and felt incredible

It is my absolute favorite thing to snort

Oh no worries. I feel fucking great right now, I get the rush of the snorting, and the whole "coming up" of the parachuted stuff. I also took 30mg DXM and 50mg diph for a bit of a boost. Not sure how effective it is when I took it that late though.

Fuck dude, Death Cab for Cutie - Summer Skin is such a good song. :)

wow?!

fuck that listen to metallica or something... Death cab for cutie?? wOw@_@

Fuck ther\ DCFC singles, they're realy gay and emoish. But they've got some really chill tunes other than those.

And most Metallcia songs blow cock.

do it all begining oc adventurs are the best.

Eat half, snort half smoke some weed and sit back... Fun times!

I've recently found Ulrich Schnauss which IMO is awesome for nodding. 'Chilled out electronica' I guess you could call it. But just lying on (or rather, melting into...) my bed, high as hell on opes, listening to Schnauss and watching the visualisations on itunes whilst chain-smoking a pack of Marlboros = Heaven. Full stop.

Damn, I wish I had some opes!

You're makin me drool here man. Ulrich Schnauss is pretty nice when I'm in the mood for it, nice and relaxing toons.

No point in me starting a new thread if this is still on the 1st page so I will ask here:

how much oc i need for a good time with no nausea considering my current ope tolerance (no potentiators, just few hits of kind green):

hydrocodone: 35mgs decent, 50mg ideal-coz any more would make me nauseus (oral)
hydromorphone: 4mgs (internasal) barely felt it at all, but used to be a decent buzz with no tolerance.
PPT: 5-7 medium sized pods of good quality is on the verge of being "too much"

Also, the fact that i find opiates completley pointless without weed. As in, i would rather not do them to wait till i have weed to go with it, not because of the occasional nausea but for that massive euphoria boost that makes you whole body buzz in bliss... is anyone else like that? I realize that might be the case just for weaksauce opis like hc and ppt, and even hm (if not iv'd), so should I try oc by itself or does weed makes oc just that much more enjoyable as well?

I probably should mention that ive also never tried percs/oxys before. They pretty much dont exist in my area... and funny thing is there is shitload of people eating over 10 10/325s a day for years, but they are scared of trying oxy.

O and last question, how many times could you get high of off 400mgs HC vs 400mgs OC ?
40x10mgs HC = $200, 5x80mgs OC = $220, Whats your pick?

just take it, and when you're high you'll know if you want to smoke weed or not.

Should I start with 10, 15, or 20 ? or more? I will titrate after the initial dose but I just want to get the most out of my very 1st time/line.

Can you tell me how does a 20mg oc compares to hydrocodone?

20mg oc will feel like 50mg hydrocodone

Do a few 5 or 10mg lines




And of course some weed will feel incredible with it, smoke after a few lines for best results

Should I start with 10, 15, or 20 ? or more? I will titrate after the initial dose but I just want to get the most out of my very 1st time/line.

Can you tell me how does a 20mg oc compares to hydrocodone?


Oral oxycodone is 1.5 times more potent than oral hydrocodone in terms of analgesia. This means that 20mg of oxy eaten is equivalent to 30mg of hydro eaten.

However, your ROA matters a lot with oxy. Even though intranasal admiinistation has a lower bioavailability than oral, it feels stronger because all of the drug hits you at once. This results in a higher peak plasma concentration (I believe), but it doesn't last as long.

Also, all known equivalencies are in terms of analgesia (pain relief). So there are other variables, like euphoria, for which we dont know the equivalency.

This, obviously, makes calaculating equivalency more diffuclt. So, instead of taking the time to figure out the exact number I'll just tell you this:

Blow 10mg. If, after a half hour, you arnt where you want to be, then blow 5mg more. Wait another half an hour, and do the rest if you want.