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Old 2008-10-16, 00:29
somewilliepete somewilliepete is offline
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Default Manufacture of RCs

Title says it all, but the true question is "what one is the most realistic choice?" While I don't have 10+ years under my belt, I can handle my own. Also, I don't have a shitload of money to invest in precursors and wont buy red flag chems.
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Old 2008-10-16, 00:37
SAS25 SAS25 is offline
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Hold on a second, so you are smart enough to pull off the complex reactions to synthesize this, but you are too stupid to flip through Pihkal/Tihkal? This sounds like another "omg I has pills how 2 coook meth" threads.

But to answer your questions if you want to make "RC" then try some GHB
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Old 2008-10-16, 00:45
somewilliepete somewilliepete is offline
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I admire Shulgin's work, but he doesnt list any complications he has had, nor little tweaks, etc... Then, I realized I posted in the wrong place. Chances are the majority of &t bltc hasnt tried or has no clue the best choice, but I had some memories of &t and decided to run it past.
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Old 2008-10-16, 01:06
spencetron spencetron is offline
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http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/index.html

Figure it out yourself.

But you have no chem knowledge, equipment, money, or idea what you're doing. Just give up now.
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Old 2008-10-16, 01:56
tapas tapas is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewilliepete
I admire Shulgin's work, but he doesnt list any complications he has had, nor little tweaks, etc... Then, I realized I posted in the wrong place. Chances are the majority of &t bltc hasnt tried or has no clue the best choice, but I had some memories of &t and decided to run it past.

Give it some time...and also...lab tips?
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Old 2008-10-16, 04:55
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lab tips?

Aaaaannnd the newbie wins the prize!

...not that we wouldn't make fun of the OP for a while there. 's one of those "if you knew how, or even heard a thirdhand rumor in your quest to know how, you'd know what's easiest" things... but it's still supposed to "make fun of for two days then lock" in a different forum. ;)

Props to the OP for not buying flagged chems, though. That's kinda bright.
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Old 2008-10-16, 05:00
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You've got a long way to go.
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Old 2008-10-16, 05:55
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Try starting out with a basic acid/base extraction of something with active alkaloids in it...

try to cleanly extract DMT out of mimosa hostillis root bark...
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Old 2008-10-16, 10:52
stateofhack stateofhack is offline
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Props to the OP for not buying flagged chems, though. That's kinda bright.

I smell irony in here...
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Old 2008-10-16, 10:55
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's one of those "if you knew how, or even heard a thirdhand rumor in your quest to know how, you'd know what's easiest" things...

...aaaaaannnd jamaica wins a prize for "best answer for the question so far." This keeps up, inflation's going to devalue them... but I figured - being in a babbling mood - I'd just expand on the part I quoted for a sec, soo...

OP : which of the following sounds easiest to you...

- lysis of a lactone.

- lysis of an amide.

- esterification of a hydroxyl group.

- dealkylation of a hydroxyl group.

- formation of an enol.

- esterification of an acyl group.

- dealkylation of an acyl group.

- rearrangement of an oxime to an amine.

- alkylation of an aromatic group.

- decarboxylation of an acyl group.

- selective methoxylation of an aromatic group.

...?

Do try to give the BBS sufficient information about your situations to actually answer your question, no?
 
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