I have 50 poppy pods coming my way from ebay and I plan on brewing them into a tea. But first, I would like to know if it would be possible to somehow extract the opium latex out of the tea. If so, would it be smoke-able or can I at least swallow it?

Yes, UTFSE.

UTFSE...use the fucking search...enema?

I just wanted to know if it was possible, I know how to search thank you.

why tell people to use the search function or even send them to google, what do you think the fucking point of the forum is? TO ASK FUCKING QUESTIONS, so go fuck yourself. just cuz you dont know the answer you tell them to use the search function with an attitude, go play in traffic, dick.

Cozy, grind them up to a fine powder with a blender or something. then let sit over stove on a low low heat. do this for, i dunno, several hours, until its dark. use like 2 cups of water. then once its black, strain it with a cloth, perhaps a bandana rag, and twist it up and squeeze it to get all the juices out of it. making sure you strain the water into a stove pot. then put it on a low heat again until it turns to tar. once its a tar, scrape it out, and i've heard you can put it in a small container, or a bowl shaped aluminum foil lined with wax paper on the inside and let it sit in a dehydrator to turn it into a nice hard clump... smoking the tar you had in the first place is hella hard, much easier to make it into a harder clump you can handle without it sticking to your hands and what not. if i made a mistake, someone go ahead and correct it. it seems simple enough though.

Yes, UTFSE.
ORLY? Care to explain, Dick?
Or maybe you consider evap'd and ice-o-lated PPT ?? Then no, that is not even close to real opium, and its not even wroth punishing yourself with that shit if you can just drink tea / buy real opium.

It is easier to precip. morphine form PPT, than to turn it into anything close to real opium.

Is it possible? well fuck almost anything is possible with enough time and money...
How hard would it be? depends on what you consider "smokeable", I mean if you get right down to it Im sure someone somewhere smoked enough potent pods to catch a buzz, but is it worth it?

Also, most stories with making smokeable pod putty end up with the guy putting them in caps for oral consumption :/

why tell people to use the search function or even send them to google, what do you think the fucking point of the forum is? TO ASK FUCKING QUESTIONS, so go fuck yourself. just cuz you dont know the answer you tell them to use the search function with an attitude, go play in traffic, dick.

Cozy, grind them up to a fine powder with a blender or something. then let sit over stove on a low low heat. do this for, i dunno, several hours, until its dark. use like 2 cups of water. then once its black, strain it with a cloth, perhaps a bandana rag, and twist it up and squeeze it to get all the juices out of it. making sure you strain the water into a stove pot. then put it on a low heat again until it turns to tar. once its a tar, scrape it out, and i've heard you can put it in a small container, or a bowl shaped aluminum foil lined with wax paper on the inside and let it sit in a dehydrator to turn it into a nice hard clump... smoking the tar you had in the first place is hella hard, much easier to make it into a harder clump you can handle without it sticking to your hands and what not. if i made a mistake, someone go ahead and correct it. it seems simple enough though.

This is not that simple, because the final product ends up being mostly plant fats and sugars, which matches the harshness of smoking still-wet-freshly-clipped-chlorophyll-filled shwag with a subtle hint of dirty asshole.

First result you will find on PPT opium will be a guy who uses partial freezing to reduce the liquid while concentrating the 'loids, and remove the fats and/or saccharides... It worked somewhat for me in reducing a big cup of tea into a shot of liquid. At all times I would advise low temps during initial extraction and during evaporation for a more reasonable ratio of codeine and morph to fats and other unwanted shit. Ideally, after the fract. freezing you would use desiccate under vacuum with no heat.
Next step would involve finding that damn page that lists all contents of various plants (fuck i lost it) looking up Merck for solubility of all wanted contents (not just the alkaloids but latex and other constitutients of good O) and unwanted contents, estimate how much of what is in your putty, and use solvents and the merck index to separate the goods from bads, starting with the most significant impurity and "taste-testing" until satisfactory result is obtained. All this while keeping in mind:
-Morphine break downs at certain temp
-Smoking pod putty destroys most of the good stuff because there is no latex to shields ‘loids from open flame contact and distributes the temperature through the loaf to the point of vaporization.
-Smokin somniferum's fats 'n carbs will make your mouth taste like jenkem
- Latex is DRIED inside of the pods
- Most real opium is dissolved in water to be purified again for higher potency, meaning pod putty doesn't come close
-Smoking opium vs smoking raw pod putty can be comparted to smoking pure methaqualone vs. smoking quaaludes, sure it might work, but is it worth it?

Do tea. It'll be much better. Trust me. It's not worth the hassle.

The tea will get you high?

Tea will be much better but only if he does a piss poor job of making putty...
But where do you draw the line on what is worth the hassle? Some kid on bluelight made shitty pod putty, did not like smoking it so instead he would dissolve 2-3 medium pods worth of putty small bit of warm water, and plugged it... Said it was 100x better than tea or any opium he had. So I guess if you are into pluggin then you can see the obvious advantage in putting 25ml up the bum rather than 250mls.


Will tea get you high?!? WTF question is this? considering how many people OD'd on tea, would they do it if it didnt get them high?

Tea will be much better but only if he does a piss poor job of making putty...
But where do you draw the line on what is worth the hassle? Some kid on bluelight made shitty pod putty, did not like smoking it so instead he would dissolve 2-3 medium pods worth of putty small bit of warm water, and plugged it... Said it was 100x better than tea or any opium he had. So I guess if you are into pluggin then you can see the obvious advantage in putting 25ml up the bum rather than 250mls.


Will tea get you high?!? WTF question is this? considering how many people OD'd on tea, would they do it if it didnt get them high?

sorry for being so fucking ignorant !
anyways.. i live where there are poppys everywhere.
what do i have to do to make the tea?

do a water extraction on the powdered pods. (very hot, not boiling, water for a good amount of time, filter, reduce). do not evap all the way though, just reduce until you have half of what you started with. now put it in a container(water bottle or something) and place in freezer. freeze about 75% and throw that out. evap the remaining liquid, scrape, smoke, super potent, match head size piece is a recommended starting point.

the larger latex molecules go into the ice while the smaller opiates fall out of the mix right as it's freezing. best tek i've ever heard of. enjoy.

Its a bit more involved than just filtering and evaporating the water then smoking the resin. Look up poppy freeze teks but from my personal experience it really really isn't worth the effort... Then again you have 50 pods so go for it!

Just be careful, be patient and take your time or you WILL fuck up.

Ok I get the jist of it, thanks guys.


do a water extraction on the powdered pods. (very hot, not boiling, water for a good amount of time, filter, reduce). do not evap all the way though, just reduce until you have half of what you started with. now put it in a container(water bottle or something) and place in freezer. freeze about 75% and throw that out. evap the remaining liquid, scrape, smoke, super potent, match head size piece is a recommended starting point.

the larger latex molecules go into the ice while the smaller opiates fall out of the mix right as it's freezing. best tek i've ever heard of. enjoy.

Has any one here actually tried this?

I've tried pretty much all of these and they're well overrated, frankly

there's no way to get a product as good as opium from dried pods. I saw one that did acid, base and neutral ethanol extractions on the straw and then used paraffin wax to remove the lipids, followed by an acid base separation, that seems like it would be your best bet.

Yes it is possible. Seek out a book called Oxy. Written by Otto Snow. It's in the LT rare books thread. The info you want is in there.

"OXY" has been deleted off mediafire due to "terms of use violations"

any chance of a reupload?

If it goes back up i can mirror it on my Rapidshare premium account incase Mediafire deletes it again.

I was really hoping you'd give your input...

I had no expectations of achieving an opium like product, I was just be optimistic. In all honesty, I was hopeing to mix any sort of tar I collected with some bubble hash to produce something I would call "dankium".

At any rate, my product still hasn't left the north west america...

SN I want to get in touch with you if you have that otto snow book on your drive, I will email you shortly.

the larger latex molecules go into the ice while the smaller opiates fall out of the mix right as it's freezing. best tek i've ever heard of. enjoy.

Well you obviously have never tried it...

Also no need for hot water if its not going to be made into a tea and drunk in a hurry... imo your better off doing a cold extraction for the reasons I already stated.

I've tried pretty much all of these and they're well overrated, frankly

there's no way to get a product as good as opium from dried pods. I saw one that did acid, base and neutral ethanol extractions on the straw and then used paraffin wax to remove the lipids, followed by an acid base separation, that seems like it would be your best bet.

Wait wtf... PARAFFIN WAX ?!? How does that work? other than the same silly principle of attaching to larger molecules such as fats or starches... Because partial freezing isn't all that great at that, I mean you will reduce the amount of water, maybe catch some fats n such, but after evaporating that it is apparent by the color, taste, consistency etc. that there is alot of unwanted shit.

But you sure about paraffin WAX? I know you can defat with solvents and shit but in the typical meaning of "defatting" you need to salt out whatever you are after(morphine) so that it doesn't get carried away with the oily shit.

I will post it here in a bit, I have to go get some groceries etc, and then dig it out.

the parrafin wax is minorly helpful for removing the fats and lipids in the poppy liquid. it gets melted and surrounds the fatty bits and upon cooling can be filtered out

Just make tea.

Your work is always appreciated.

Almost forgot about this.


Oxy:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/f77068/n/otto_oxy_djvu