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Old 2008-10-15, 01:31
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Is it the act? The Thought? In this day and age does having a girlfriend and watching porn count? Where does the line end? Does watching a old friend with benefits strip count?

So Totse, I ask you, What, define as broad or narrow as you want, is cheating?
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Old 2008-10-15, 01:37
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Is it the act? The Thought? In this day and age does having a girlfriend and watching porn count? Where does the line end? Does watching a old friend with benefits strip count?

So Totse, I ask you, What, define as broad or narrow as you want, is cheating?
as simple as kissing another guy/gurl, or having conversations that shouldent be and shit like that lol
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:11
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Is it the act?
Usually.

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The Thought?
No... that's stupid.

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In this day and age does having a girlfriend and watching porn count?
No. Fascist.

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Where does the line end?
Huh?

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Does watching a old friend with benefits strip count?
Is this a private strip show?

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So Totse, I ask you, What, define as broad or narrow as you want, is cheating?
Betraying your partners trust. There can't be a standard definition for cheating because there is no "standard" relationship.

-F☺rd
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:13
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Betraying your partners trust.
B-I-N-G-O and bingo was his name-o.
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:52
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Depends on the relationship. My ex-boyfriend was pretty uptight so we had pretty strict rules. The new guy I'm seeing is even more of a raging alcoholic than I am, so I suppose we have more lenient rules.
Honestly if he got blacked out drunk and went home with the busted bartender from down the street I wouldn't be too cut up about it. He'd be more pissed at himself than I would.
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Old 2008-10-15, 03:21
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Depends on the relationship. My ex-boyfriend was pretty uptight so we had pretty strict rules. The new guy I'm seeing is even more of a raging alcoholic than I am, so I suppose we have more lenient rules.
Honestly if he got blacked out drunk and went home with the busted bartender from down the street I wouldn't be too cut up about it. He'd be more pissed at himself than I would.
Exactly this.

I've been in relationships where we were both to drunk to care about each other fucking around. And more importantly, we understood when the other person got drunk and fucked around.

But at the same time, I've been with guys that break into screaming and tears and rage if I so much as in the same room with an ex.



As for myself, I'm fairly relaxed with the rules. A huge factor is if they're honest about it. If I end up hearing through word of mouth that my partner hooked up with his ex at a party, and the whole world knew except me, I'd be pissed. That's a relationship breaker right there.

But if he calls me one day and tells me he was really drunk and made out with some chick I'd let it go easy.

Getting together with ex's is always bad news too. Everyone knows when you hook up with an ex, even if you think the shit between the two of you is over, something always happens. Feelings come up, chaos ensues.


So for me, it really depends on the situation I guess. No laid out rules.
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Old 2008-10-15, 03:31
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Jesus Fuck, why is booze such an easy excuse?

It's bullshit, I say.

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Old 2008-10-15, 03:38
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Jesus Fuck, why is booze such an easy excuse?

It's bullshit, I say.

*ObZ
It's not for a lot of people and wasn't for my ex.

However, if you think that lowered inhibitions will never happen then you should probably date someone who doesn't put away 19 beers in a night. Because that shit will eventually happen and I don't need it to be a deal breaker if it doesn't have to. I'm not threatened by some busted 50 year old bar trash with 9 teeth. He on the other hand will probably never forgive himself. Which would be hilarious.
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Old 2008-10-15, 03:58
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However, if you think that lowered inhibitions will never happen then you should probably date someone who doesn't put away 19 beers in a night. Because that shit will eventually happen and I don't need it to be a deal breaker if it doesn't have to. I'm not threatened by some busted 50 year old bar trash with 9 teeth. He on the other hand will probably never forgive himself. Which would be hilarious.
If he'd fuck around drunk, he'll fuck around sober.


Promise.

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Old 2008-10-15, 04:00
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I used to be the guy with a rigid point of view when it came to this... if my girl was talking to an ex or fucking around, I'd be all busted up about it.

A few years out in the real world changes your perspective. It's going to happen... accept it.

I've got a current story that relates well to this thread... I broke out of the friends zone and am dating a girl I've been friends with for some time now. When I first met her, she had a boyfriend. He goes to university on the other side of the country, and before they broke up he bought plane tickets and tomorrow morning he is flying in and staying with her for the next few days.

I highly doubt she'll be telling him to take the couch. I'd bet my life that his intentions are to rekindle their relationship, and will undoubtedly make a move on her. Will she go for him? It's possible. Will she sleep with him? I wouldn't be surprised.

None of this matters though. Whatever he is able to build up with her, it'll all come crashing down once he's gone and I'm back in the picture. Honestly, I think anybody in her situation would be prone to do the same thing.

People tell me to find a girl who isn't like this... I like her though. We get along great. And if I wasn't dealing with her bullshit, I'd just be dealing with another girl's bullshit because they are all the same.


I guess my point is, whatever you define cheating as, it doesn't matter because it's simply going to happen. Don't get too hung up on it. Accept it, and hey, it makes it easier to justify cheating to yourself when you're the one doing the cheating. Just don't do it out in the open and there's really nothing wrong with it.

By the way...she swears up and down nothing will happen, but I don't care. I know better.
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Old 2008-10-15, 04:16
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If he'd fuck around drunk, he'll fuck around sober.


Promise.

-F☺rd

Potentially but cheating can and will happen. There's no reason to ruin a perfectly good relationship over it.
And on that note, I can honestly say I have never cheated on a significant other.
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Old 2008-10-15, 04:46
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I used to be the guy with a rigid point of view when it came to this... if my girl was talking to an ex or fucking around, I'd be all busted up about it.

A few years out in the real world changes your perspective. It's going to happen... accept it.

I've got a current story that relates well to this thread... I broke out of the friends zone and am dating a girl I've been friends with for some time now. When I first met her, she had a boyfriend. He goes to university on the other side of the country, and before they broke up he bought plane tickets and tomorrow morning he is flying in and staying with her for the next few days.

I highly doubt she'll be telling him to take the couch. I'd bet my life that his intentions are to rekindle their relationship, and will undoubtedly make a move on her. Will she go for him? It's possible. Will she sleep with him? I wouldn't be surprised.

None of this matters though. Whatever he is able to build up with her, it'll all come crashing down once he's gone and I'm back in the picture. Honestly, I think anybody in her situation would be prone to do the same thing.

People tell me to find a girl who isn't like this... I like her though. We get along great. And if I wasn't dealing with her bullshit, I'd just be dealing with another girl's bullshit because they are all the same.


I guess my point is, whatever you define cheating as, it doesn't matter because it's simply going to happen. Don't get too hung up on it. Accept it, and hey, it makes it easier to justify cheating to yourself when you're the one doing the cheating. Just don't do it out in the open and there's really nothing wrong with it.

By the way...she swears up and down nothing will happen, but I don't care. I know better.


youre dumb as fuck
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Old 2008-10-15, 04:53
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Potentially but cheating can and will happen. There's no reason to ruin a perfectly good relationship over it.
And on that note, I can honestly say I have never cheated on a significant other.

What the hell! Cheating doesn't always happen (you're an example of that...) so why let your man get away with it.

It's obviously not a "perfectly good" relationship if expectations are that fucking skewed.

Alllso: Casanova, you're a fucking tool! Of course your girl's gonna fucking cheat, you all but gave her permission.


I've been cheated on once, told her to fuck off and I have yet to be cheated on again. If you expect to be cheated on you will be. If you expect (and demand) respect and fidelity, most of the time you'll get that too.

Fucking pushovers.

-F☺rd
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Old 2008-10-15, 05:03
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I didn't mean to imply that I want her to cheat, or that I even gave her permission... but I'm not going to demand that she make her ex refund his tickets and cancel the trip. Anybody who tries to exercise that much control over their partner is a tool.

I'm just pointing out what is obvious and what is real and true of the world we live in. I don't know about you, but I come from a large family, and none of my aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents... hell... neighbors, bosses, co-workers, friends... no one I know has ever remained 100 % completely loyal. I'm not condoning that she cheats... it's not even a conversation really that was brought up, but it's foolish to think that it won't happen.
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Old 2008-10-15, 05:22
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Anybody who tries to exercise that much control over their partner is a tool.

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I'm not condoning that she cheats... it's not even a conversation really that was brought up, but it's foolish to think that it won't happen.

Yes, it is foolish. Because you're a doormat and your "relationship" is a sham.

You shouldn't have to exercise any control over your girl. For example, I have no problem with my girl's ex's paying her a visit, spending the night, etc. If fact I encourage it, cause they're good people, like me, respect her, and realize that they will be on the couch and I'll be in my girl.

Seriously, stop being pathetic!


-F☺rd
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Old 2008-10-15, 06:19
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I totally agree with Ford on this.

There's such a thing as respect and integrity. People who cheat have neither, and I want nothing to do with them.

I don't know what kind of sluts you meet, but you know there's a problem when you actually expect to be cheated on. Why bother getting into a relationship with someone you can't trust?

Pathetic.

*ObZ
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Old 2008-10-15, 13:46
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IMHO........If you all think that your significant other is not going to cheat on you at one time or another.....then you are not in touch with reality. It can, does, & will happen.....To think otherwise, then you are setting yourselves up for a fall.
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People are always going to be tempted to cheat. It's a biological instinct and a fact of life. It's also instinct for us to shit outside and wipe with leave. Bollocks to that idea, thanks.

If you're in a committed relationship, then my definition of cheating is intimate contact with anyone other than your partner that you wouldn't want your partner to know about. In my opinion it's possible to cheat emotionally as well. And if you're in a committed relationship, you shouldn't be fucking around. You can try and justify it however you like...but it's all bullshit. If you care about someone you keep your urges to yourself because you respect and love the person you're with. If you don't love them enough to be faithful to them then you shouldn't be with them in the first place.
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Old 2008-10-15, 14:21
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Anything you do with another person that you wouldn't want your partner doing, is cheating. This completely eliminates double standards.

I haven't, nor will I ever, cheat.
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Old 2008-10-15, 14:46
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my view: if you wouldn't feel comfortable doing it with your partner standing next to you, it's cheating.

so, in some instances, something like texting someone is cheating (in my books). eg they're an ex boy/girlfriend and you know it's not kosher that you're texting each other.
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Old 2008-10-15, 17:22
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Potentially but cheating can and will happen. There's no reason to ruin a perfectly good relationship over it.
And on that note, I can honestly say I have never cheated on a significant other.

You are fucking retarded.
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Old 2008-10-15, 17:45
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For starters, booze is not a fucking excuse and the cheating 'line' starts from kissing IMO. Even going out with the intention of cheating/'pulling' would not count as cheating, but It certainly wouldn't be a good thing to be doing if you 'loved' or at least cared for your partner.

just my $0.02
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Old 2008-10-15, 17:49
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For starters, booze is not a fucking excuse and the cheating 'line' starts from kissing IMO. Even going out with the intention of cheating/'pulling' would not count as cheating, but It certainly wouldn't be a good thing to be doing if you 'loved' or at least cared for your partner.

just my $0.02


So you don't think it's cheating if you go out and try to cheat, but can't find anyone to cheat with? How does that make sense?
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Old 2008-10-15, 17:55
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I have good looking kids. Thank goodness my wife cheats on me.

-R.D.
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Old 2008-10-15, 22:44
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So you don't think it's cheating if you go out and try to cheat, but can't find anyone to cheat with? How does that make sense?

Because you haven't commited to anyone else at this point. Thats how it makes sense in my mind.
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Old 2008-10-15, 22:51
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The physical act(kissing onwards), because it means that you not only thought about it, but went out of your way to do it. Everyone thinks about other people from time to time, but it takes a little more to actually go through with it. I would never forgive someone for cheating on me, but I can completely understand a partner finding another guy attractive.
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Old 2008-10-15, 23:17
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I tell a girlfriend that I want a committed relationship. No excuses. To me that means anything romantic/sexual/whatever you call it. Kissing, feeling up, anything.

She cheats on me, then I dump her. No more second chances.
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Old 2008-10-16, 00:21
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Cheating is when you do anything with the gender of your choice that you would not want to tell your lover about.
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Old 2008-10-16, 00:48
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Because you haven't commited to anyone else at this point. Thats how it makes sense in my mind.

It's not about being committed to someone else, it's about being not committed to your girlfriend.

I wouldn't consider this cheating, but going around looking for other people to fuck certainly doesn't make you a very good fucking partner.
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Old 2008-10-16, 02:50
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Cheating to me is pure the emotional part, i don't care if she get's drunk and sleeps with a random person. I do care if she does a friend, somebody she's known for a while, somebody she keeps in contact with afterwards. Hell i find it cheating if she'd spend hours every week discussing life's problems with some buy.

But physical stuff just outta random lust

couldn't give a rats ass
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Old 2008-10-16, 02:57
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To me, cheating mainly constitutes the actual act of having sexual relations with someone else. As for the other stuff, I don't care if my boyfriend watches porn, or thinks about it. Maybe if I found out he fantasized about having sex with someone else might hurt my feelings, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was cheating. Also, maybe crossing the line between friendly and overly flirty conversations with other girls might be hurtful, but not cheating. Private strip shows from exes, though. That's cheating.
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Old 2008-10-16, 03:36
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Cheating to me is pure the emotional part, i don't care if she get's drunk and sleeps with a random person. I do care if she does a friend, somebody she's known for a while, somebody she keeps in contact with afterwards. Hell i find it cheating if she'd spend hours every week discussing life's problems with some buy.

But physical stuff just outta random lust

couldn't give a rats ass


That's suck bullshit. Do you think she's able to just tell you everything? Sorry, so. She needs other people to talk about shit with. Some of those people may be guys. Deal with it. Just because she's talking about shit with them doesn't mean there's any sexual attraction, it means they're fucking friends and he's good at listening and helping her work through her problems.
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Old 2008-10-16, 15:20
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no course not, she needs to talk with other people


But there's a difference, between talking with other people, and sitting several times a week, alone, with the same guy, discussing life's problems (and then i mean includin those in our relationship)

Course she needs to talk, i'm all for not having to carry that burden alone, and i don't care if it's with men of females

I'm not unrealistic, you jumped to conclusions


And last but not least, she doesn't have to find him attractive to cheat on me if things aren't going well and she has the feeling he truly listens. I've been there. Both on the listening guy's side as well as the one who got cheated on


But i don't blame you for jumping to the wrong conclusions, at your age most men are insecure jalous assholes without a clue... sadly this is still for a big part true at my age
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Old 2008-10-16, 15:32
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no course not, she needs to talk with other people


But there's a difference, between talking with other people, and sitting several times a week, alone, with the same guy, discussing life's problems (and then i mean includin those in our relationship)

Course she needs to talk, i'm all for not having to carry that burden alone, and i don't care if it's with men of females

I'm not unrealistic, you jumped to conclusions


And last but not least, she doesn't have to find him attractive to cheat on me if things aren't going well and she has the feeling he truly listens. I've been there. Both on the listening guy's side as well as the one who got cheated on


But i don't blame you for jumping to the wrong conclusions, at your age most men are insecure jalous assholes without a clue... sadly this is still for a big part true at my age


I didn't jump to conclusions. I know exactly what you're saying and still think it's bullshit. A lot of my best friends are guys. Guys I would never dream of doing anything sexual with, but guys I talk to. Often daily, for several hours. And often about my relationship. It doesn't mean shit.

And you don't even know how old I am, lie down.
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Old 2008-10-16, 15:37
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^^ i do if you didn't lie in your profile (yup it shows age)

And my gf has lot of male friends too, like i said, your jumping to conclusions. I haven't been jalous once in the past, i dunno, 8 months or something we've been together.

And there's talking bout your problems, and talking bout your problems.

But just believe i'm impossible, doesn't matter.

For my gf i'm the first bf who bitches bout more freedom instead of her being the one bitchin bout it... so i must be doin something right
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Old 2008-10-16, 16:53
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And my gf has lot of male friends too, like i said, your jumping to conclusions. I haven't been jalous once in the past, i dunno, 8 months or something we've been together.
Great. But you just said that if you girl were to start confiding in one of these guy friends you wouldn't just get jealous, but you'd accuse her of cheating.

And there's talking bout your problems, and talking bout your problems.

No, there isn't. People need to discuss their relationship with people other then their partner. Everyone does it, it's natural.

But just believe i'm impossible, doesn't matter.
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Old 2008-10-16, 17:53
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XXOMBIE

No... like i said, damn 17 year olds.

If she did that i would talk to her, you know communication?? Cause apparently it's needed, cause people never cheat without a reason, i know this from experience. I have better things to do with my time then accusing my gf of anything. I'm not 17 and insecure

And you don't read. Like i said, they do need to talk, just not, all their problems, all the time, to ONE friggin guy.

And i'll explain why

I was together with the love of my life for over 4 fantastic years. Just near the end, i had less time, and she lived 150 km away, we still saw eachother 90% of weekends and most of the time at least one weekday. But she was sorta lonely there. And near the end we did sometimes have arguments. And then she met this guy in her flat, first i was happy, i hated to see her become unhappy cause of loneliness.
And then she started to see him more, course she needed somebody to talk to too, so i was happy for her, just a friend, said she would never be intrested in him. 2 months later she cheated with him (just kissed and she said was a drunk mistake) another 2 months later again (the full thing). Broke my hart. Made me lower myself to do things like sleep with her best friend. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation ever again cause it almost destroyed me and made me hurt the one i loved most
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Old 2008-10-16, 21:28
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If she did that i would talk to her, you know communication?? Cause apparently it's needed, cause people never cheat without a reason, i know this from experience. I have better things to do with my time then accusing my gf of anything. I'm not 17 and insecure
Hell i find it cheating if she'd spend hours every week discussing life's problems with some buy.
Yup.


And you don't read. Like i said, they do need to talk, just not, all their problems, all the time, to ONE friggin guy.
Yes. I do read. Yes, she should be discussing all of her problems all the time. It's a good, healthy habit to get into. And maybe this guy is a fantastic listener. You are a paranoid asshole.

2 months later she cheated with him (just kissed and she said was a drunk mistake) another 2 months later again (the full thing). Broke my hart. Made me lower myself to do things like sleep with her best friend. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation ever again cause it almost destroyed me and made me hurt the one i loved most

Not everyone is your exgirlfriend. This incident can be blamed on a long distance relationship and has nothing to do with her having friends.

And stop fucking insinuating that you're superior to me because I'm 17. Fuck you're frustrating. I'm done with this.
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Old 2008-10-16, 22:05
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Cheating is whatever you define it to be within that relationship. It's something you need to have a clear conversation with your partner about, set down some rules. They can be anything from "nothing beyond kissing others" to "vaginal intercourse is only between us, but anything else goes." It really depends on your relationship and your partner.

Thinking about having sex with someone else is not cheating. Your partner has no fucking say over what/who you think about while masturbating, etc.


...cause people never cheat without a reason, i know this from experience.

You're making gross generalizations about something you know nothing about. People DO cheat without a reason all the time. I know this from experience (friends ex was the cheater, not me).

xxombie might be 17, but she has a much healthier attitude towards cheating than many of the other posters here.
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Old 2008-10-16, 22:14
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I didn't mean to imply that I want her to cheat, or that I even gave her permission... but I'm not going to demand that she make her ex refund his tickets and cancel the trip. Anybody who tries to exercise that much control over their partner is a tool.

I'm just pointing out what is obvious and what is real and true of the world we live in. I don't know about you, but I come from a large family, and none of my aunts, uncles, parents, grandparents... hell... neighbors, bosses, co-workers, friends... no one I know has ever remained 100 % completely loyal. I'm not condoning that she cheats... it's not even a conversation really that was brought up, but it's foolish to think that it won't happen.


First, at the LEAST, you should stay there while he's there. If she has a problem with both of you being there then your girl not only could but INTENDS to cheat.

Is he coming in JUST to see her, and she said ok? She INTENDS to cheat. You couldn't have sais to her the things oyu mentioned to us about how you dont like the idea because feelings etc?
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Old 2008-10-16, 22:51
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Voilet, there's always a reason why someone cheats, if only that reason is cause she's an evil bitch wich doesn't care for you, ot thinks she can get away with it.

But still, always a reason
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Old 2008-10-17, 00:30
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Voilet, there's always a reason why someone cheats, if only that reason is cause she's an evil bitch wich doesn't care for you, ot thinks she can get away with it.

But still, always a reason


Bullshit. But I'm not going to argue about this. I have an example where there was no reason. Unless you interview every single person who has cheated, and find that every single one of them had a reason, I cannot believe you.

And it's "evil bitch who..." not "which."
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Old 2008-10-17, 00:33
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How can you cheat without a reason? There is a reason behind everything anyone does. You are responsible for you actions entirely, and saying that there was 'no reason' is a bullshit attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a hurtful and deceitful action. There is no fucking excuse, and there is no reasoning that makes it okay to cheat on someone.
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Old 2008-10-17, 00:43
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Originally Posted by Silverfuck
How can you cheat without a reason? There is a reason behind everything anyone does. You are responsible for you actions entirely, and saying that there was 'no reason' is a bullshit attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a hurtful and deceitful action. There is no fucking excuse, and there is no reasoning that makes it okay to cheat on someone.


I was gonna say this, but I totally see where violet is coming from.

I think she means like, malicious reason. Some people will cheat to get the other person in trouble. Some people will cheat because they want to spite their parter. But sometimes, the only reason is they were drunk and made a stupid decision. Obviously, that's not a very good reason, but the cheater wasn't trying to accomplish anything by cheating, shit just happens.

That doesn't mean the person shouldn't have to take responsibility for their actions, of course.

If that makes any sense.
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Old 2008-10-17, 00:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverfuck
How can you cheat without a reason? There is a reason behind everything anyone does. You are responsible for you actions entirely, and saying that there was 'no reason' is a bullshit attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a hurtful and deceitful action. There is no fucking excuse, and there is no reasoning that makes it okay to cheat on someone.


When I say no reason, I mean there is no explanation for it. Note: Explanation does not mean excuse. He did it just because he wanted sex. He could have easily have had sex with his girlfriend (she wasn't out of town or anything), it wasn't to get something his girlfriend wasn't giving him, and it wasn't becasue he specifically wanted to fuck the girl he did. He did take responsibity for it, and felt like shit for ages after he told his girfriend. It was definitely not excusable.

Edit: shit, xxombie did a really good job of explaining what I'm trying to say while I was writing all this crap...
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Old 2008-10-17, 02:30
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When I say no reason, I mean there is no explanation for it.

Yo, stupid cunt: When getting in an argument/debate it helps if you use a word in it's intended context/with it's official meaning

Now try again, with it's real definition now.
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Old 2008-10-17, 02:33
InFlamesWeTrust InFlamesWeTrust is offline
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If he'd fuck around drunk, he'll fuck around sober.


Promise.

-F☺rd

Fucking bullshit generalisation.

I know for a fact if a girl made the same pass at me when i was drunk and sober, i'd have different feelings, and possibly, reactions.
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Old 2008-10-17, 04:10
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Fucking bullshit generalisation.

I know for a fact if a girl made the same pass at me when i was drunk and sober, i'd have different feelings, and possibly, reactions.

You mention 'the same pass'. What about a different pass? You don't sound convincing.

i'd have different feelings, and possibly, reactions

Possbily? That's the point. So if a girl tries to kiss you while you're sober, you'll turn her down? And if she tries while you're drunk, you'll turn her down?

What if she comes up behind you and grabs your cock? You'll only possibly turn her down? It's no longer the same pass.
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Old 2008-10-17, 05:23
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Fucking bullshit generalisation.

I know for a fact if a girl made the same pass at me when i was drunk and sober, i'd have different feelings, and possibly, reactions.

Wow, you really trying to prove a point by saying you get beer goggles?


Try again dipshit.

-F☺rd
 #50 
Old 2008-10-17, 05:35
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Yo, stupid cunt: When getting in an argument/debate it helps if you use a word in it's intended context/with it's official meaning

Now try again, with it's real definition now.

Well shit, sorry for using the colloquial definition of explanation. God forbid I don't check a dictionary to make sure I'm using exactly the right word. Fuck.

I should have been a little clearer and said "explanation of his motives" instead of just "explanation." Thanks for tearing me apart like that. I really shouldn't be making errors like that considering I'm taking a course on technical communication.
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Old 2008-10-17, 06:34
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Well shit, sorry for using the colloquial definition of explanation. God forbid I don't check a dictionary to make sure I'm using exactly the right word. Fuck.

I should have been a little clearer and said "explanation of his motives" instead of just "explanation." Thanks for tearing me apart like that. I really shouldn't be making errors like that considering I'm taking a course on technical communication.



Can I have your phone number? <3
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Old 2008-10-17, 11:39
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Well shit, sorry for using the colloquial definition of explanation. God forbid I don't check a dictionary to make sure I'm using exactly the right word. Fuck.

I should have been a little clearer and said "explanation of his motives" instead of just "explanation." Thanks for tearing me apart like that. I really shouldn't be making errors like that considering I'm taking a course on technical communication.

You're taking a course on technical communication (nice that you subtly dropped that in) and yet you'd need to refer to a dictionary to distinguish between the words reason and explanation? Riiight...

I stand by my previous comment: Stupid cunt.
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Old 2008-10-17, 12:00
dark-easterbunny dark-easterbunny is offline
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When I say no reason, I mean there is no explanation for it. Note: Explanation does not mean excuse. He did it just because he wanted sex. He could have easily have had sex with his girlfriend (she wasn't out of town or anything), it wasn't to get something his girlfriend wasn't giving him, and it wasn't becasue he specifically wanted to fuck the girl he did. He did take responsibity for it, and felt like shit for ages after he told his girfriend. It was definitely not excusable.

Edit: shit, xxombie did a really good job of explaining what I'm trying to say while I was writing all this crap...

See, there was a reason, HE WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE ELSE. It just wasnt a proper reason to his gf....

Ohw, and very impressive, correcting the english of a non native speaker. Can't you people just realise this is an international board and it's a lot we can make ourselves clear to you in your language since the other way around there is no hope......ever
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Old 2008-10-17, 14:05
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You're taking a course on technical communication (nice that you subtly dropped that in) and yet you'd need to refer to a dictionary to distinguish between the words reason and explanation? Riiight...

I stand by my previous comment: Stupid cunt.

Asshat. You didn't notice the sarcasm dripping from that sentence? I do know the difference. I just didn't use explanation in the clearest possible way.

dark-easterbunny: No, he just wanted to have sex. Who it was didn't matter. I corrected your sentence because if you don't know you made an error you will keep making that error. I didn't do it to be mean so there's no need to get your panties in a twist.
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