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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-10-13, 21:57
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default gbl to ghb.....why???

so after a discovering that gbl is perfectly legal in the UK i decided to read the wiki article on it. It says that gbl has a quicker onset, lasts longer, and has more powerful effects per ml than ghb. so wtf would anyone want ghb instead?Confused
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Old 2008-10-14, 00:26
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

bU:mp

5 4 3 2 1
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Old 2008-10-14, 07:01
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

Some don't feel the effects until after a few trials, also a lower dose-response curve with GHB, IIRC.
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Old 2008-10-14, 16:00
Bean_Doodle Bean_Doodle is offline
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GBL tastes like ASS and really, REALLY fucking harsh on ye ol stomach lining.
So just doing a shot of pure GBL would probably burn a hole and go right through you.
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Old 2008-10-14, 20:10
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GBL is a lot more toxic than GHB.
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Old 2008-10-14, 20:24
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and yet gbl is still legal in UK? even tho it's more toxic...hm. For some reason that doesn't make much sense.
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Old 2008-10-14, 20:33
spencetron spencetron is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

Quote:
Originally Posted by forty5ive
and yet gbl is still legal in UK? even tho it's more toxic...hm. For some reason that doesn't make much sense.


Nothing about politics makes much sense.
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Old 2008-10-14, 20:47
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Britain, Britain, Britain
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Nothing about politics makes much sense.

Least not drug politics
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Old 2008-10-14, 20:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by forty5ive
and yet gbl is still legal in UK? even tho it's more toxic...hm. For some reason that doesn't make much sense.


Yeah, GBL is more toxic than marijuana, even though it's still legal in the UK. Doesn't make much sense either.
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Old 2008-10-15, 00:08
krs-93 krs-93 is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

Yeah, GBL is more toxic than marijuana, even though it's still legal in the UK. Doesn't make much sense either.

just about everything is more toxic than marijuana
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Old 2008-10-15, 00:15
BlackopsNinja BlackopsNinja is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

yeah man havent you heard? dont u watch tv? marijuana kills more than alcohol and cocaine DAILY. TIMES 50!


just about everything is more toxic than marijuana
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Old 2008-10-15, 00:40
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just about everything is more toxic than marijuana

THC is nearly 10 times more toxic then ethyl alcohol (drinking alcohol). Good try though.
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Old 2008-10-15, 01:26
yalikeit yalikeit is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

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Originally Posted by r_connolly_06
GBL is a lot more toxic than GHB.

so is it safe to use recreationally?
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:08
Acolyte
 
Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

...the irony.

I fail to see the irony in that, good sir.
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:16
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Fuck you shithead. Get the facts straight, THEN try to be cool.

LD50's
THC 1270 mg/Kg
Alcohol (Ethyl) 10.6 g/kg

Nice try

GG way to delete your post, retard.

Why don't you get your facts straight.

Ethyl Alcohol - 10,600 mg/kg

THC - 1,270 mg/kg
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Old 2008-10-15, 02:28
spencetron spencetron is offline
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Default Re: gbl to ghb.....why???

I deleted my post because the other guy was referring to marijuana, not pure THC. I was just fixing my error. Taking into consideration those LD50's, your typical dose of THC is 5mg (smoked) and the amount of alcohol in just two beers is around 33g. While you are correct in stating THC is ~10X more "toxic" than ethyl alcohol, your typical dose of alcohol far exceeds that of THC.
 
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