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Old 2008-10-12, 10:56
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Default Tramadol [Ultram]

I need more info on this and google is letting me down. I know it's a synthetic opiate and it only comes in 50mgs. How many is a correct recreational dose? How much is street value? Are there any long term side-effects?
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Old 2008-10-12, 11:41
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Default Re: Tramadol [Ultram]

Wiki.

Dose: 80 - 200mg.
Price: £1 per 80mg.

Side effects: Seizure & probably liver damage.
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Old 2008-10-12, 12:14
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this sucks get your self something better if you want to have ANY type of "high" from it...really not worth anything...
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Old 2008-10-12, 12:37
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Oftaaa

Dont you at least get a regular opiate high from tramadol?
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Old 2008-10-12, 12:48
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Default Re: Tramadol [Ultram]

Personally I love the stuff, give you a nice warm fuzzy high but doesn't make you so fucked you can't be bothered to move.

It's great to take when you're having a night in with the girlfriend, makes me get really loved up and cuddly haha
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Old 2008-10-12, 13:57
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Post Re: Tramadol [Ultram]

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makes me get really loved up and cuddly haha
yeah i usually take about 375 mg of tramadol (not including APAP) and it gives me an overall positive view of everything. its great, but just watch out of the itchy comedown....and for my dosage its nearly impossible to take a piss

its still worth it though

also the ones i use are generic for Ultracet, i dont know if theres a big difference
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:04
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yeah i usually take about 375 mg of tramadol (not including APAP) and it gives me an overall positive view of everything. its great, but just watch out of the itchy comedown....and for my dosage its nearly impossible to take a piss

its still worth it though

also the ones i use are generic for Ultracet, i dont know if theres a big difference
Yeah I always get a really itchy face / nose when into higher doses.


I think it's best to point out at this time that tramadol is abit funny when it comes to seizures; I used to take up to 1000mg daily and never had any negative side affects, while my ex-GF used to take up to 500mg daily (she is prescribed it for joint pains) and she seizured off 150mg
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:10
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So say some tall handsome awesome Bean of a Doodle is looking to order nuggets for his noodle.

Should he buy 30 100mg tramadol pills for 45$ or:
50 30mg Codeine pills for 50$?
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:27
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I take 200 but I take like one pill every 45 minutes, and that gets me feeling good for like 12 hours.

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It's great to take when you're having a night in with the girlfriend, makes me get really loved up and cuddly haha
This is very true.
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:28
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Default Re: Tramadol [Ultram]

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So say some tall handsome awesome Bean of a Doodle is looking to order nuggets for his noodle.

Should he buy 30 100mg tramadol pills for 45$ or:
50 30mg Codeine pills for 50$?
Tramadol.

Codeine is shit, most people I've spoken to about have said it makes them get the shakes, and I agree.
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:45
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Default Re: Tramadol [Ultram]

But isn't the whole seizure thing kind of a bitch?
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Old 2008-10-12, 14:46
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If your not prone to seizures you won't have a problem, I have taken like 500mg before with no problem, but it was no better than just taking 100mg anyway.
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Old 2008-10-12, 15:10
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If your not prone to seizures you won't have a problem, I have taken like 500mg before with no problem, but it was no better than just taking 100mg anyway.


Yeah, like I said I used to take up to 1000mg a day without any problems, couple of 100 in the morning then another few 100 early afternoon, and another 100 or so at night. The high only lasts around 3 or 4 hours anyway.
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Old 2008-10-12, 15:41
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Originally Posted by Bean_Doodle
So say some tall handsome awesome Bean of a Doodle is looking to order nuggets for his noodle.

Should he buy 30 100mg tramadol pills for 45$ or:
50 30mg Codeine pills for 50$?


I say you stop wasting your money and buy some vike's or oxy's.
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Old 2008-10-12, 15:55
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I say you stop wasting your money and buy some vike's or oxy's.

this.

i only use tramadol because a family member gets them prescribed, so for me they're free. vicodin and oxy is WAY better
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Old 2008-10-12, 16:19
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this.

i only use tramadol because a family member gets them prescribed, so for me they're free. vicodin and oxy is WAY better

I would if I could.

But I live in a ridiculously dry town.:(

Some month ago I drank some cough syrup with ethylmorphine in it. (ethyl version of codeine basically) and I was high for like 20hours with a VERY pleasant comedown(I love the opi-itch)

Do you think Codeine, being so similar to the ethylmorphine be best for my sweet metabolism?
But the tramadol is cheaper...tho a completely different chemical, but metabolized by the same enzyme group (gotta luv me sum wikipedia yodiggity)
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:05
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Wow, Tramadol seems fucking awful
www.canadianpainsociety.ca/Tramadol/Tramadol_Qs_As.doc

The Tramadol itself doesnt bind to any opite receptors at all, only the metabolite of Tramadol does, and that metabolite doesnt cross the bloodbrainbarrier very well.
And the more tramadol you take, the higher the tramadol-to-metabolite ratio becomes, that is it becomes harder for the metabolite to enter the brain.
Shiiat...
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:16
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Wow, Tramadol seems fucking awful
www.canadianpainsociety.ca/Tramadol/Tramadol_Qs_As.doc

The Tramadol itself doesnt bind to any opite receptors at all, only the metabolite of Tramadol does, and that metabolite doesnt cross the bloodbrainbarrier very well.
And the more tramadol you take, the higher the tramadol-to-metabolite ratio becomes, that is it becomes harder for the metabolite to enter the brain.
Shiiat...


That means that a low dose is a better high. Tramadol is pretty fun for me dude.
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Old 2008-10-12, 19:53
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Tramadol isn't the most amazing drug, but if other opes aren't available and that's what yer looking for, then it's not too bad. I've never done it in HUGE amounts, but from what I've done it just makes me relaxed and a little happier I guess.
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Old 2008-10-12, 19:58
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Tramadol isn't the most amazing drug, but if other opes aren't available and that's what yer looking for, then it's not too bad. I've never done it in HUGE amounts, but from what I've done it just makes me relaxed and a little happier I guess.


I don't understand why anyone expects it to be 'hardcore' and comparable to like diamorphine or something.
It's a synthetic opiate.
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Old 2008-10-12, 20:14
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I don't understand why anyone expects it to be 'hardcore' and comparable to like diamorphine or something.
It's a synthetic opiate.

its nice, enjoy it, dont pay more then .50 cents a pill for it tho.

i'd buy the codeine , also.
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:07
Bean_Doodle Bean_Doodle is offline
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Holy hell!!!
I found a legit website that sells pure tramadol hcl for 50$/10g
10 grams, thats like, 10 THOUSAND mg! :O
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:57
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Holy hell!!!
I found a legit website that sells pure tramadol hcl for 50$/10g
10 grams, thats like, 10 THOUSAND mg! :O


um....seems fishy? how do u know the site is legit?


this sucks get your self something better if you want to have ANY type of "high" from it...really not worth anything...

tramadol will get you high. its obviously not the best, but if you got nothing better, its decent enough. and pretty handy for weaning down
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Old 2008-10-12, 22:22
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That means that a low dose is a better high. Tramadol is pretty fun for me dude.

if you like tramadol and codeine try at least scoring some damn darvocets or something off your friends so you can move up to better shit...
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Old 2008-10-13, 00:45
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if you like tramadol and codeine try at least scoring some damn darvocets or something off your friends so you can move up to better shit...

Yea, in my opinion Darvocets>codeine. Not amazing, but still better.
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Old 2008-10-13, 02:32
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I can get ten tramadol pills for five bucks. Sometimes twenty pills for five. I'm thinking there might be some money to be made in this. I'm the only person that this one guy sells it to. He's kinda dumb so I'm thinking I'm getting a great deal and I can sell them. How much should I charge per pill? When people ask me how many they need to take for an optimal high, what should I say? He also gave me some orangeish-yellow tramadol and said they were different. Like they're for back pain or something. Does anyone know the difference?

That's the business. Now the health. Is there any reason not to take say five pills at the same time? I'm on an SSRI. I know it makes me more likely to have a seizure, if I mix it with the tramadol. Is there anything else to worry about when combining them? What about combining tramadol and alcohol? And if I take some in the morning should I skip the SSRI for the day or maybe take it for my comedown?

Can it be tested for or present false positives?

And finally are there any notable longterm side effects?
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Old 2008-10-13, 03:10
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200mg XR = fun for 20 hours or so :)

These threads are always the same, some people love it, some people think it's shit. It seems to be the nature of this drug!
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Old 2008-10-13, 03:16
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Quote:
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200mg XR = fun for 20 hours or so :)

These threads are always the same, some people love it, some people think it's shit. It seems to be the nature of this drug!


20 hours? wtf u talking about?

i never had it last more than like 8.....(XR too)
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Old 2008-10-13, 03:21
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20 hours? wtf u talking about?

i never had it last more than like 8.....(XR too)

What type do you get? I usually have the 200mg XR and don't break it up, I just pop it. I usually smoke a bit of weed too.

Perhaps I am just lucky, but they do last a long time.
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Old 2008-10-13, 04:20
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My best experiences with it are when I just pop 50mg. I get a fuzzy feeling, almost like a pre-nod (albeit not even remotely as strong, but still where you wanna just close your eyes and enjoy the fuzziness). I never noticed anything better with more. Never had problems with seizures either.

I've only really taken them recently for being sore from work, which it works pretty well for. Soreness gone within ten minutes.
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Old 2008-10-13, 18:39
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Take 100mg or so of Tramadol along with a low to moderate dose of Oxy. The Tramadol will potetiate the Oxy well and make the high last MUCH Longer.

or take 200 or so mg of Tramadol alone and youll be feeling pretty good for a while.
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Old 2008-10-13, 19:37
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I fucking love Tramadol. Last time I had it, I took 4 of those 37.5 Tramadols and I was feeling great from 8 AM to 4 PM. General mood lift, euphoria...I just felt fucking great. Best part of all was I could walk around and do stuff with ease, and people had no idea. ;)
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Old 2008-10-15, 23:19
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whoa what the fuck? i have a legit prescription for ultram for pain, i've taken it a handful of times ( i have 100mg er pills if that means anything) and i've never noticed any like, drug 'hey this is pleasurable' effects....do you just have to take more than one of these to get them? or what?
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Old 2008-10-15, 23:24
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Tramadols nice to get a fuzzy/happy feeling going, it makes you chatty
Im a light opiate user and i'll take anywhere between 100-300mg to last a couple of hours

however, i just did 4mg of buprenorphine, its a alternative to H for people trying to recover (im taking it out of curiosity, im not addicted)
Its actually pretty impressive... get some if you can
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Old 2008-10-16, 05:37
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It is kind of powerful in a way^.......the bupe that is


But i find it so less euphoric than other opiates of my choice


I might even pick tramadol over the shit
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Old 2008-10-17, 01:17
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be very careful with high doses when taking the tram, 400mg should be the most you take within 1 hour and IF YOU TAKE AN SSRI DO NOT TAKE IT, you risk more than a seizure you risk the potentially fatal serotonin syndrome
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Old 2008-10-17, 06:12
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IF YOU TAKE AN SSRI DO NOT TAKE IT, you risk more than a seizure you risk the potentially fatal serotonin syndrome

This is NOT true.
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Old 2008-10-17, 07:15
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This is NOT true.

Umm, tramadol is serotonogenic, and SSRI stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, so its VERY MUCH possible you derk
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Old 2008-10-17, 10:38
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Since you are on an SSRI then you must consult a doctor or pharmacist before taking it.

Really all you have to do is go to the pharmacy at your local grocery store and ask the pharmacist. As long you're polite and make it seem like you're just asking out of curiosity or because you're concerned for your friend they'll be happy to help you.
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Old 2008-10-17, 21:38
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This is NOT true.

im sorry but it IS true, go do some research
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Old 2008-10-18, 03:55
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I'm curious, is there less of a chance of seizure with SNRI's than SSRI's since tramadol has been shown to have slight SNRI properties?
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