definitely smoke alot more next time and it will at least equal any other opiate you've done but its not some crazy drug that beats out all others. Your expectations were probably just too high like mine were, I expected it to be a whole new world of opiates and not just like OC but more sedating. Really OC beats H in my opinion, but OC is expensive and harder to get for me. Heroins cheap and goes a long long way....damn I want some heroin now...time to make some phone calls

This guy summed it up perfectly. Heroin is hyped, and expectations for it are high. It's just a cheap fix when OCs or morphine is too expensive.

h is one of the better opiates i've tried no doubt my favorite but that isn't to say it's not still overrated

i was highly disappointed as well. never slammed the stuff though, i know thats one bridge i can't cross

How did you smoke it?

The first few times I tried H, I smoked it by putting it in a pot pipe. What a fucking waste! It was when I tried it on a foil that I got the best effect.

And stay away from needles. Needles are for fucking losers. Unless you're already rich and/or a rockstar, there's no way to have a needle habit and a decent life.

What kind of tolerance do you have?

Also, regardless of how good of a friend he is, he may have just thought "He has no past experience..it won't matter to him."

You definitely need either smoke more next time or go the IV route.

Also, even though I'm not a big fan of IVing drugs, needles aren't just for losers. If you aren't a moron and practice a little intelligence and self control you won't be any worse for the ware. Just be careful with that shit. It isn't widely renowned as one of the most addictive drugs available for no reason.

You show me one needle user who has a great and successful life and I will show you 10,000 others who don't.

That's true..but that 1 successful user shows that it isn't impossible :). I know 3 that shoot up and are doing extremely well. To be fair, they don't do it daily though. They keep it to the weekends and "special occasions". They just use that oh so useful organ known as a brain.

"What kind of tolerance do you have?" Before the Opiate
20mg of hyrdo (4 vics) will get me feeling great. Like cloud 9 top of world status.

"How did you smoke it?" Metaphysicist
I smoked this stuff off tinfoil and had my friend show me how. I was getting huge hits and i know I did it right.

I was just surprised how "weak" it was compared to OC. W/e It was just one of those drugs Ive always wanted to cross off my list.

Thanks guys.

I smoke black tar out of a bong and it works very well, i don't use tinfoil to freebase it or anything, just load it up and rip.

I get a very nice and intense head rush, am I getting shorted here? It seems to work fine with direct heat

I got tar so I can't do much other than freebase off tinfoil.

i don't use tinfoil to freebase it or anything, just load it up and rip.

Freebasing isn't a method of smoking dammit!

Freebasing isn't a method of smoking dammit!

Smoke comes out. Id say its a method of smoking

I'd say you should have gotten better H

That's true..but that 1 successful user shows that it isn't impossible :). I know 3 that shoot up and are doing extremely well. To be fair, they don't do it daily though. They keep it to the weekends and "special occasions". They just use that oh so useful organ known as a brain.


I never claimed it was impossible. But it is rare enough that I wouldn't ever suggest someone try using needles in hopes that they came beat the odds.

I never claimed it was impossible. But it is rare enough that I wouldn't ever suggest someone try using needles in hopes that they came beat the odds.

Know what you are? A Negative Ned.

Why does everyone use straws/pens to chase their drugs? I once had some oil (pot honeyoil) and decided to try to chase some on foil, just for kicks. Pens/straws sucks as you have to inhale quick and hard and lose alot of smoke. I used a pop bottle with the bottom cut off and inhaled slow and steady and caught most, if not all, of the smoke.

Peace.

yea I would say you got shitty H too...I admit I like fentanyl high better than the H high but...you shoulda felt SOMETHING more than what you did given how much you did...hmmm...maybe try a better connection or something...I have no experience with anything other than shooting tar so I donno ...i shot powder once too but yea H IMO is way better than OCs I mean as far as feeling it physically so I would say just a shitty supply..

Get a glass bottle and pour a little water in and put some stones in. Heat it over flame and jiggle the stones around and the bottom will come off at the level of the water. This is called a hooter