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Old 2008-10-10, 03:24
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Default Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Title.

I've noticed that I've never seen a turbocharged Chevy block, they are always supercharged. Why is this?

Thanks.
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Old 2008-10-10, 03:40
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

It's pretty simple to just take off the intake, plop a super on there, bolt everything down, and get a longer belt.

Superchargers are really old technology that's had a lot of support over the years. It's like asking why do people get married. It works for most everyone, so not too many venture out.
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Old 2008-10-10, 05:48
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Possibly because you're looking in the wrong place.

http://www.lateral-g.net/ (http://www.lateral-g.net/)
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Old 2008-10-10, 06:37
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Because superchargers are far more badass than turbochargers.
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:11
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

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Because superchargers are far more badass than turbochargers.


No, because nothing sounds sweeter than air being raped into a cylinder at 25 psi.
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:13
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No, because nothing sounds sweeter than air being raped into a cylinder at 25 psi.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:17
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Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

Read it as superchargers. Just woke up. Bah.
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:21
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Read it as superchargers. Just woke up. Bah.

http://n2.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/416000/98053_mad_max.jpg

She sips nitro... with Phase 4 heads! 600 horsepower through the wheels! She's meanness set to music and the bitch is born to run!
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:29
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http://n2.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/416000/98053_mad_max.jpg

She sips nitro... with Phase 4 heads! 600 horsepower through the wheels! She's meanness set to music and the bitch is born to run!

Was actually waiting for that to be posted again. Looking through some old albums I have, I found something cornier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9RrHMTTbw
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Old 2008-10-10, 17:53
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Was actually waiting for that to be posted again. Looking through some old albums I have, I found something cornier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9RrHMTTbw

Did they borrow Iggy Pop for that?
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Old 2008-10-10, 18:16
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Did they borrow Iggy Pop for that?

I think so. Dunno for sure.
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Old 2008-10-10, 21:24
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

I think so. Dunno for sure.

yea the intro(gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire...) is iggy pop

and op FUCK YOU for thinking a turbo on a V8 is cool
turbos are for rice
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Old 2008-10-10, 22:11
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

As for the original question, there are a lot of very simple, bolt-on supercharger kits for the SBC. Also, V8s have a much lower powerband than smaller motors, so it's better to have a supercharger because you don't have to wind the motor way up to get turbos to kick in.
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Old 2008-10-10, 22:30
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

turbos are for rice

I cannot tell you how much I just fucking laughed at that. Are you aware that turbos produce more power than superchargers?

Fucking idiot. Plus a ricer would probably blow up his engine trying to install one.
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Old 2008-10-10, 23:27
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and op FUCK YOU for thinking a turbo on a V8 is cool
turbos are for rice

http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/fbomb/hrdp_0704_1973_chevrolet_camaro_paint_body/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE3PCPK7JwI&feature=related

You sure?
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Old 2008-10-10, 23:41
bmxanarchist bmxanarchist is offline
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

hey i didnt say they dont make power... but something just aint right about the scream of a V8 mixed with the whine of a turbo
and yes i am aware superchargers whine too but not like a turbo
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Old 2008-10-11, 00:50
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

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Originally Posted by bmxanarchist
hey i didnt say they dont make power... but something just aint right about the scream of a V8 mixed with the whine of a turbo
and yes i am aware superchargers whine too but not like a turbo


You should really learn to stop talking before you make even more of an ass of yourself
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Old 2008-10-11, 07:23
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You should really learn to stop talking before you make even more of an ass of yourself

Would you prefer a turbocharged V8 or a supercharged V8?
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Old 2008-10-11, 16:09
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

Would you prefer a turbocharged V8 or a supercharged V8?

Tri-charged :D

No but seriously, I would prefer a supercharged one
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Old 2008-10-11, 21:25
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

For fun driving around town I'd prefer supercharged. If I was going to get into competition, though, I'd go turbocharged because the engine would be built for screaming high RPMs anyway.
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Old 2008-10-12, 05:33
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V8s aren't supposed to rev.

This is where holden have it wrong MadMadMad
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Old 2008-10-12, 05:56
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

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Originally Posted by ComradeAsh
V8s aren't supposed to rev.

This is where holden have it wrong MadMadMad


Do you know how horsepower works?

Want 1000 horsepower at 2000rpm? Get a CAT.
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Old 2008-10-12, 06:07
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Do you know how horsepower works?

Want 1000 horsepower at 2000rpm? Get a CAT.

I mean they rev a little too high.

ITS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.

Related: Should I try get an XR6 Turbo or an XR8 next car?

They'll have fuel cards so I'm tempted to say XR8 because V8 + Fuel Car = WIN WIN WIN.
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Old 2008-10-12, 07:18
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

I mean they rev a little too high.

ITS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.

Related: Should I try get an XR6 Turbo or an XR8 next car?

They'll have fuel cards so I'm tempted to say XR8 because V8 + Fuel Car = WIN WIN WIN.

Turbo.

More power for longer.
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Old 2008-10-12, 07:21
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Turbo.

More power for longer.

On a road though?
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Old 2008-10-12, 07:25
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

On a road though?

As opposed to on the dirt?
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Old 2008-10-12, 07:44
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

As opposed to on the dirt?

I mean in the dreary land where you don't normally run 1/4 miles or break 100kph.

Where immediate power matters.
 #28 
Old 2008-10-12, 07:58
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

I mean in the dreary land where you don't normally run 1/4 miles or break 100kph.

Where immediate power matters.

Max torque (probably 90%+) from 2000 rpm. They made this new Turboed 6 into a fine motor, it shits on Fords 8. Plus its Australian.


XR6 - 533Nm @ 2000rpm - 4750rpm

XR8 - 520Nm @ 4750rpm

Thus the 6T is at full capacity earlier in the rev range than the 8,

Edit: and it revs less, you seem to like that for some reason. (though the FPV one revs riiiight out)
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Old 2008-10-12, 08:16
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Hrrrm, well hopefully Ford will go get some minor tweaking happening by new car time.

V8s just sound so delicious :D:D:D:D

Besides, Turbo + Fuel card doesn't sound as win as

V8 + FUEL CARD = WIN WIN WIN
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Old 2008-10-12, 16:29
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

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Originally Posted by ComradeAsh
Hrrrm, well hopefully Ford will go get some minor tweaking happening by new car time.

V8s just sound so delicious :D:D:D:D

Besides, Turbo + Fuel card doesn't sound as win as

V8 + FUEL CARD = WIN WIN WIN


O rly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWCo3lDjH8
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Old 2008-10-12, 16:49
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O rly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWCo3lDjH8

Running a bit hot there?

It sounds like its about to explode.

I still think the V8 sounds pretty Boss.
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:21
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Old Jag V12 + Fuel Card = stupidly awesome.
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:34
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V12 Want...
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Old 2008-10-12, 17:46
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Old 2008-10-12, 18:13
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Do not get one. I've worked on too many of them, the shop owner's brother had two and they always occupied at least one stall. Fuckers piss everywhere and need more looking after than a paraplegic with downs.
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Old 2008-10-12, 18:24
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Do not get one. I've worked on too many of them, the shop owner's brother had two and they always occupied at least one stall. Fuckers piss everywhere and need more looking after than a paraplegic with downs.


I thought the ones that had been to knowles-wilkins were okay?

I don't ever see myself getting a jag or an alfa for that matter.
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Old 2008-10-12, 18:42
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I thought the ones that had been to knowles-wilkins were okay?

I don't ever see myself getting a jag or an alfa for that matter.

Jags were never good. Performance aside, build quality was never one of their high points. Granted modern Jag- er, Fords are built by people without instructions, even old ones like to fall apart.
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Old 2008-10-13, 00:45
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

But they're so fucking sexy.
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Old 2008-10-14, 17:57
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

granted modern jag- er, fords

o rly?
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Old 2008-10-14, 18:20
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o rly?

Well, not anymore.
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Old 2008-10-15, 01:39
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

While we're on the topic of 1000hp mosters, check this crazy shit out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxryjbYJg3A
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Old 2008-10-16, 02:39
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Default Re: Why are old Chevy blocks always supercharged and not turbo'd?

The reason is tradition. People have been doing it since the 60s. Thus, today, you can just recreate what 1000 other people have done, and the price isn't too bad. People started using roots blowers around the 60s, because they could pull one off a Detroit Diesel (ever wonder why an 8-71 blower is named that? It's the same design as a Detroit 8v71 diesel.)
 
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