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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-10-09, 21:22
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The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
Count Rizzo has been cooking up a splendid idea into the outer edges of the cosmos, or rather, he's been pondering ideas. Never a good sign, right?
Well, well...Over the years there have been many psychonaughts, yes? People have traveled inside their...minds? Spirits...to...incredible places of perception. Learned great truths. Got really, really high. Etc.
And so we share our knowledge, what we learned, how it happened, what we brought back from the trip. Although in the end, it's only a finger pointing to the moon.
But let's cut the nonsense because I've written far too much nonsense in my life and gotten away with most of it which makes life all the more splendid when you realize nothing is true and everything is permitted.
Or was it everything is true and nothing is permitted? Damned, if you get THAT one wrong.
Let me try to outline what I'm trying to say then...
Psychedelics.
Imagination.
Adventure.
Psyche.
Self-realization.
6th/7th circuit tinkering.
Big Fun.
H'okay, so now that I got the general gist of it out, this is what I'm planning to do, and why:
Sometime this weekend, most likely Saturday night, two companions and I will be ingesting 2-cb, mushrooms, LSD, potent cannabis, and Lord only knows what else will spring up. By the time the first of the drugs hit, we will be entirely different people and we will know it and be in (somewhat) control. After that, we will go on a journey, an adventure, travel many miles...who knows?
What? What do you mean?
Well, in searching for the Philosophers Stone, I have come to the conclusion that psychedelics in and of themselves will NOT take you to Where You Want To Go. No, for that you need Imagination, Creativity, and possibly bodily appendages like guts or balls or what have you. So my thought process goes, "When were you most creative and imaginative?"
Why! When I was not but half my size, if less! Of course, that child like imagination, all the horror stories or fantasies and illusions and what have you. So why not put oneself INTO that mindset deliberately to create a conscious cognitive dissonance.
Put simply:
Create a new "self". A character. It can be in any kind of vein you want, but it has to be self-sustaining and consistent. For example, you could pretend that you are a Greek God and are meddling in the affairs of mortals. Or maybe you're a treasure hunter, looking for phat l00t in the Egyptian Pyramids...Or just some adventurer. A wizard. A priest. A king. WHATEVER.
Now. Add together psychedelics, and a few friends that are willing to go along with this and you've basically created yr own private universe.
But, you say, it isn't REAL.
A-ha!
Obviously it is not real, you just made it up. But - what of yr so called REAL self?
And then, that is where it begins.
I can not tell you what happens after that, for it is for each man to experience. What is reality, what is the self? What is imagination, creativity, etc? Who is the creator and who is the created? The Big Questions.
So while this is by no means a completely novel idea, it still has a fairly stable back bone for creating a supremely enlightening experience which others can tamper with and use to their own needs.
How weird can you get?
ps: if none of this makes sense, or is completely and totally unreadable, I'll re-write it for yr reading ple-a-sure. Until then, let us collaborate, corroborate, masticate, and digest some psychedelic ideas.
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#2
 2008-10-09, 21:36
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Atomic_Bong 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
youre not creating a new universe or reality, your just changing the way you act/see things for the most part knowingly.
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#3
 2008-10-09, 21:37
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
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Originally Posted by Atomic_Bong
youre not creating a new universe or reality, your just changing the way you act/see things for the most part knowingly.
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Which is exactly what we have already done. We interpret everything we see in a way that has been taught to us.
This is basically strategic un-doing.
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#4
 2008-10-09, 21:50
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SAS25 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
You have one hell of an imagination, but more power to you.
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#5
 2008-10-09, 22:05
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Aerogone 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
Hey, do as you please!
Did you, at least, kick the opiates?
The childish imagination, and indeed imaginary play, with imagined entities..... remind me of that time i consumed something like 100+ mg of Ambien.... ugh....
2c-b on the other hand doesn't seem like the adventure, or "weird" drug at all.
2c-e would seem like a much better candidate, no?
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#6
 2008-10-09, 22:47
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thatcoolkid 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
Eh, sounds like a good idea. A trip report would be nice aswell.
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#7
 2008-10-09, 22:48
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MonetaryGraspOfLesions 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
I apologize for the length and format of this message, but I shouldn't as the format of a message is as just as important as the message.
It's time. It always was. Reality revisited. I hope that this will be taken as a 'trip appreciation post' instead of a long and pointless message. The message is the point, and I hope you will let other people be in it if you refuse to.
I refer to the trip that we are all currently making without fail. The trip everything is making. Rizzo's trip is analogous, symbolic, and synonymous to my own experiences with reality. The beauty of life is that it is a self-governing organism that interacts with itself to make itself feel as though it is real. Feeling isn't real. Reality isn't feeling.
Reality is constantly eating itself.
I sincerely hope you enjoy or hate this post, it's not like you have a choice. Feel free to relate the experiences outlined here with what you have recently been experiencing, expecting, or running from. This is novelty in action. Novelty within action.
god is sleeping and 2 angels are talking. one is a bit scared because he did something that he views as unsavoury earlier.
he whispers into the ear of the other and says "don't tell god to wake up."
what's the difference between the angel saying don't tell god to wake up and don't tell god not to wake up?
the end of the world.
his world, your world, our world, what's the difference?
maybe the angel is just an angle.
welcome, dreamers, to the propagation of existance.
your psyche is how much you trust yourself, your body is how much it trusts you.
to experience novelty you have to forget that you're forgetting.
all notions of you, the past, and the future considered, of course.
and yes, it is a matter of course.
a course of matter? the stairway to heaven.
let's make a promise to ourselves, i'll walk.
your liver, you live through it, brilliant.
who said matter matters anyway?
the archetypal society is today's society. we just use tools more than we used to.
by the time you know you're responsible, it's too late.
by the time you know your responsible, it's too late.
by the time you know your responsible, its too late.
are you thinking inside the box or inside the boxes?
i like to talk about things like they just happened, no wonder i believe in god. (memory)
i can't teach you anything you didn't not believe in already, i can just play with your perception of perception.
god is a joke, i told him.
i think i'd like to do psychedelic comedy. you know, sort of like a shaman.
your life is a story we told ourselves, ain't it interesting?
do the truckfighters fight the cause or the consequence?
watching other people trip is funny isn't it? in real life i mean.
we live in a place where those of us who live in overabundance are busy keeping ourselves busy all the time. on the opposite end of the spectrum, we're so busy that we can't keep ourselves busy from being ourselves. that's necessity. if you can't see the surrealism in that, you are life is surreal and therefore transparent.
is a shaman a guide or a trip sitter?
is a shaman the guide or the trip sitter?
i'll give you a hint, the trip sitter is awareness.
it's important to note that my whole experience of coming to terms with awareness has been autosymbolic and self-created through knowledge of actions in the present that i would see in the future and interpret differently. that's why i love 7-11s, they're only open some of the time.
my alter ego alters your ego.
legos are just let gos in disguise.
of course legos rule, they built reality.
(Rizzo note: Legos, logos, let gos, Logos.)
i love every second of every moment of every second.
it's like the difference between your experience of reality and reality. that is to say, no difference.
gotta love the thunder of rain through a nice day.
i know, it's so involving it's dissociating. life is complex like that. and this.
when you take the capitalization away from i, it just becomes part of the alphabet again. i love soup.
someone i know once said that he liked to run naked through thunderstorms. i would too if i wasn't afraid of lightning and cold. damned germs, preventing my psyche from establishing my dominance over their archaic control.
who said a supposition was a preposition in disguise? a preposition is a supposition in disguise. of, in, whatever.
the contemporary is a con over the temporary.
i just need other psyches to integrate into my experience of reality while i'm on psychedelics so that i can ground myself in humour
nonduality is all of duality trying to explain nonduality combined. hello?
pointing out that there's a difference is the materialization of the difference.
men and women have always said 'fuck love, or it'll fuck you'
notepad is a landing pad for notes.
is morning when i rise or when the sun rises? i am god. or has society just been lying to me. that is to mean, have i just been lying to myself?
what's the difference beween an epiphany, a depiphany and an eh?piphany?
a good time.
it's all very surreal, the difference is that i'm experiencing experience and you're experiencing
reality.
i think reality is perfectly destructible, is that my fault or theirs?
what did speedy and the dreamer say to each other as they passed by?
"Woah, slow down their, buddy"
chance is a game of longing.
enlightenment is.
getting lost in reality and lost in your imagination is the same thing.
i sell water bottles made out of water, i'm self sufficient.
so much to write, so little to understand. so much to write.
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A decision is the cause and consequence. I mean time.
It's not a spelling mistake, it's an understanding mistake.
Who didn't say understanding is like standing under something?
Is civility civil or is the civil civility?
There are 2 i's in civil and 3 in civilization. Got zation?
The beauty in the cow is that it points out it's a cow.
Bad ideas? Swim in my head. Someone who I met.
The angle stood by god and pointed out "That is a phenomenal phenomenon." Or was it the other way around?
Quotations are for quotes.
Money would be freedom if it was free. Well it is, it just depends if you care or not.
A logical fallacy is the fallacy of knowledge.
I'm talking to you, you're talking to me, we're just talking to ourselves.
Shelves of selves or selves of shelves? She sells sea shells by the sea shore.
A tongue twister is a trick, a mind twister is a tongue. A twister twister is disbelief.
Neodualism is another just way to say dualism.
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#8
 2008-10-09, 22:51
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MonetaryGraspOfLesions 
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
Do you know Shakespeare? Maybe your related.
Shakespeare shakes a stick at spear shaking.
The pen is mightier than the sword but I don't know which one came first and told you.
The pen is a sword that gives blood. I can always give you what you already have.
The penis a sword that gives blood. I can always give you what you already have. Lets get fucked.
Either I'm crazy or everyone else is, the difference is everyone's else.
The pen is mightier than the sword but I don't know which one told you it came first.
The popcorn generation is under the microwave.
Autosymbolism is symbolic surrealism.
A human dream is to be human, that is just a dream.
Everytime you close your eyes when you are awake you are waking up in a dream.
I don't know what eyelids are made of, it might be wool.
Never cry wolf, just point it out casually.
The theory of forms is really just nondualism in disguise. Analogy of the cave.
George Lopez said "How do I get my dog to understand that I'm in control? Feed him a lot of meat."
woof.
The difference between love, happiness and content is being content with contentness.
The difference between knowing and knowing that you know is an impulse.
What's the difference between creating the world and living in it? The world.
Life is the trick we use to trick ourselves into tricking each other.
The problem with taking drugs to reach new(old) levels of awareness is that most people don't know the difference between where mind and matter meet and where matter and mind meet. That is to say, there is no difference. We are both en-'beinged'.
Matter only matters if you mind.
We don't know what time is, we just know that it passes like glass.
To transcend transcendence is to give your soul to the Earth.
Awareness is the difference between "Chilling from the heat" and "Chillin from the heat." Whatever that means.
If your left is your right how right could you possibly have been in the first place? Time or area?
Excessive amounts of excess are accessive amounts of access.
Do you erase things to forget that you forgot what you wanted to say, or to forget.
Is the finger pointing to the moon or is the moon pointing out the finger?
The point of life is hopefully pointless.
Rereading what you already know is like forgetting that you've forgotten.
The trees are shaking the wind.
Time to go, go to time, whatever.
An artist goes up to a painter and says "Could you paint this book please?"
"What?"
Just read the damned thing.
Clocks are there to keep time, that's why you look at them.
The difference between keeping time and not keeping time is subjective experience. That is, experience subject to time and subjectivity therewith to subject yourself to subjectivity.
Context is a con over text.
Contemplation is a con over tempting temples.
I don't like lined paper. It has holes to tell you which way to go.
Understanding the surrealism in reality and the reality in surrealism is to understand dolphin. That is not an understatement.
The body is a sensory deprivation center. The center of sensory deprivation.
Sitting and knowing is like learning to sit.
The environment is an organism. I love isms, they're so alike.
Sitting and knowing is knowing to sit.
The simple is a complicated lie that gives out free samples of simplicity.
There is no difference between not understanding what someone is saying and knowing why you don't understand it.
Does nature reflect man or does man reflect nature?
Sitting and learning is like learning to know.
Books don't have order, knowledge does.
Being high on life is to be high on experience.
A superintelligent race of normal people.
Grip and grasp, let go.
Careful, you're falling for life again.
Only 0% of the brain exists, the rest is a conspiracy to conspire.
Divided, we stand. Together, we sit.
Will is the power to force yourself to believe a lie. And you will, trust me. That is, I hope you won't any longer.
Feeling the dent the pencil creates in your hand is the dent in your perception of reality.
Maybe christianity is there to test your faith in god? Let's try this again.
Then the universe exploded.
Is non-understanding accidental or understandable?
Dualism is experience subject to subjectivity.
Humanity is the creative machine. Is the machine creative or is humanity?
Thinking you're separate from nature is human. Or not.
To be separate from nature is to think that nature is separate from you.
The theory of everything indicates that there's a theory to everything.
Time and space and spacetime are the same thing.
Discomfort is comforting. Comforting is somewhat uncomfortable.
Are you exploring your mind or is your mind exploring you?
The best kind of personality is one you can trust because it trusts itself. All, it ties everything.
Experiencing experience is like experiencing the present for the package.
Ergonomics is the art of comfortable economics.
The problem with the poor is that the rich give their money value.
Reading something over and over again is because you don't remember what It means. That's mean.
Homing pidgeon's pidgeon hole is pupose. That's the hole point.
Dualism involves dueling.
There's no difference between thinking in a circle and having a circle think in you.
Not being able to sleep is good, it means that you're dreaming.
The problem with the rich is that they give their values money.
A man made of business. Pay attention, this is serious.
People give ideas value. Ideals give people value. That's the problem with commune-ism.
Traveling is a valuable asset to travelers.
Most people are possessed by possessives, everyone else is flustered.
Can't make your own money they said.
I'm not obsessed with myself, I'm obsessed with obsession.
I propose I told me so. Wait, you did that.
The Spanish came and destroyed everything of value because they wanted money. Mayans, anyone?
I went to the library and said I wanted to donate a book. I wrote it. Who's helping who do what here?
Love is impulsive, the mind is the impulse hive.
Let's be separated from separation.
I was trying to get some paper out of the printer, then I decided to type.
When my parents get home I'm going to ask them if they want to read this in the order I wrote it or the order they got here in.
If Bill Hicks didn't believe in God he wouldn't smoke cigarettes.
You stop being a child when pencil sharpeners stop making your pencil sharp.
Hypnotizing others involves hypnotizing yourself.
A psychologist's pencil is like penicillin. Does anyone know if Dr. Seuss ever caught a cold?
I looked in the mirror once and couldn't see my eyes. That was 12 hours ago. You tell me who's tripping.
The difference is being different.
Your actions are a plan and your plans are an action.
I tried to get my sister to read what I wrote and she said "Not right now." who's delusional here?
Homework involves working from home, workhome involves being at home while working.
"Honey, I'm home" said the Bee
Reality is like Bop-It. You always are.
I don't know why you guys think the model of reality is realistic, but I'm sure I do.
Oppression can only oppress the oppressed. It impresses everyone who doesn't think they are.
Everyone = ovary one over everyone.
Everyone thinks and talks at the same time. It's just that when they try to talk and think at the same time they experience cognitive dissonance because they're thinking about not-thinking.
Reality manifest unto reality and delusion manifest unto death.
The only man worthy to be a philosopher is he who has nothing.
Dual reality is delusional duality.
Psychedelics are interesting, they show that you don't hallucinate while you are in reality or when you are perfectly removed from it.
There is only one truth, everything's else is a lie. The truth is that everything is true.
The lie can keep on lying but the truth will always tell the truth.
Confusion is a con over the fused. That is to mean, a con of fusion.
A circle is a Rube-Goldberg machine. A rube-goldberg machine is a circle. Both are are inventions of humanity. Humanity is an invention of humanity. You cannot create a concept, you can only perceive it.
At this point, I noticed that I had forgotten how to spell perceive. I went over to the dictionary and flipped around. I understood simultaneously.
I looked in the dictionary and found this:
Percieve:
1. -
-----> things and stuff and what?
2. -
Synonyms: apprehend, comprehend, concieve, know, understand.
I don't think any more writing is necessary.
Enlightenment is, everyone else just wants to be.
You know you've written enough when you can write on your own writing. This pencil is made out of wood and has lead in it. Poison.
I hope you enjoyed this autoserving sermon. If you did not, I hope you found some comedy in it, whatever kind it may be. I've recently been experiencing reality eating itself and talking to itself while sober and on drugs. While I was on drugs, I only had visuals while I wasn't thinking. I guess I was just thinking the visuals up when I did.
I am not Rizzo, but we are definitively the man. His experiences are completely synonymous, analogous and symbolic of mine, as are mine of his. This is life experiencing itself. You cannot run from awareness while you are alive, you can only pretend it's not there.
I've recently been trying to talk to people through this point of view, they often end up making Freudian slips and spelling or grammar mistakes that can be viewed as Freudian slips. These Freudian slips show exactly what they are running from because their message can be interpreted as such logically.
This is it, but so is that.
I hope you love, I'll always be here.
2c-e would seem like a much better candidate, no?
To see the use in seeing is to see.
You are the only candidate. Everything is psychoactive. You perception of your perception is psychoactive.
I've written everything here today and yesterday, stemming from last Sunday. Truthfully, I have always been waiting to write these because it was written so.
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#9
 2008-10-09, 22:58
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
^ ^ ^
Your trippin dawg.
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#10
 2008-10-10, 00:43
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
dude you're not going to be sustaining shit when you're off of those drugs. how are you going to try to 'plan' your mindset??? your logic is flawed and you're a troll.
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#11
 2008-10-10, 01:48
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
rizzo, pick a name and stick with it. got it?
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#12
 2008-10-10, 03:29
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
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Originally Posted by vilbe
rizzo, pick a name and stick with it. got it?
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He can't answer you as I banned him for multiple account use - and his other account too. I didn't ban the third one since it hasn't actually been used so far.
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#13
 2008-10-10, 03:35
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Re: The 6th Circuit Psychedelic Circus (OR: The D&D Mushroom Adventure)
He can't answer you as I banned him for multiple account use - and his other account too. I didn't ban the third one since it hasn't actually been used so far.
i did the same thing, and thats why we have email addresses...
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