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Old 2008-10-09, 12:22
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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Default Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

So, phenethylamine can be bought at nutrition place as phenylethylamine, but there's not really any point, because when eaten it gets chewed up by enzymes and junk (MAO A?). But, if it is snorted, will it cross the BBB in time to escape death by enzyme? I tried googlin' it, but nothing turned up about different routes of administration. I'm probably going to wind up buying a whole bottle of the stuff to try this, but that could be a waste (my research dollars need to be elsewhere) So I was hoping someone here knows something about this.
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Old 2008-10-09, 16:29
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

Snorting DMT apparently works, but trust me, you want to save your nasal passages for better things. Experiment with harmala first and then take them together and you may get... well, you'll probably get nothing special, but it's worth a shot (I say this only because it's not my money and I'd love to hear of the results).
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Old 2008-10-09, 22:16
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nshanin
Snorting DMT apparently works, but trust me, you want to save your nasal passages for better things. Experiment with harmala first and then take them together and you may get... well, you'll probably get nothing special, but it's worth a shot (I say this only because it's not my money and I'd love to hear of the results).


That one went over your head. That has very little to do with his initial inquiry.

He is asking about snorting sweet and low. (anecdotal evidence may suggest that kids do it to get high.... but i really wouldn't try)

Not to say that i haven't :(
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Old 2008-10-10, 19:52
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

That one went over your head. That has very little to do with his initial inquiry.

He is asking about snorting sweet and low. (anecdotal evidence may suggest that kids do it to get high.... but i really wouldn't try)

Not to say that i haven't :(

No he said he wants to purchase phenethylamine, which is sold at nutrition stores.
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Old 2008-10-10, 20:25
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

No he said he wants to purchase phenethylamine, which is sold at nutrition stores.

My bad, i read that as "phenylalaninine" not what was actually written; "phenethylamine".

You suggesting taking an MAO-B inhibitor and then going about it the oral route, right?

PARDON?:o

OP:
Not many MAO-B inhibitors exist, other then the few "old people" drugs on the market right now.

I can point to: Desmethoxyyangonin

Desmethoxyyangonin, one of the six major kavalactones, is a reversible MAO-B inhibitor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavalactone#cite_note-7

I myself have not tried it, so i can not comment on its action.
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Old 2008-10-10, 20:38
Aerogone Aerogone is offline
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

A far as snorting goes....
it doesn't seem to be effective when I.V. ed.

(with 25 and 50 mg i.v.) "No effects".
Shulgin

http://www.mdma.net/pea.html

I am really curious to your results.... please post back, if you ever decide to give it a whirl.
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Old 2008-10-11, 00:10
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

PARDON?:o

No I don't recommend taking PEA whether with or without MAOIs because your money is best spent elsewhere, I'm just interested in the results.
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Old 2008-10-11, 04:37
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

Wow, great results. I've read A LOT of shulgin, so I've seen the IV reports, but the dosage is low enough that there might still be hope. I don't know about the kavalacetone thing, and although I like the whole kava thing, I've heard some BAD stories about MAOI's and jacking neurotransmitters, so I probably won't try that. What really deterred me was that the price of PEA was way higher than other, more proven, dopamine related supplements.

What really inspired this post was that I thought remember someone reputable saying they made PEA whippets (Smokable?) that worked for short term energy boosts, so IDK about inhaling PEA, or one of it's salts, maybe its just a dosage thing. The other possibility I hope to look into is mono and di (N-methyl) PEA. Shulgin mentions mono N Methyl being a probable anti-tussive, something about research, but it is pretty vague. Though, given that N-Me-AMP is way stronger than N,N-ME-AMP, but N,N-Me-Trypt is stronger than N-Me-Trypt, since there's a little data about N-Me-PEA, the N,N analogue could go either way. Who knows... who knows...

'Course if I ever have too much time and too much money I'll make sure to through some at PEA and see what happens, and y'all can rest assured, I'll through a writeup this way.

BTW, What's the deal with ingestion of amine? Is it safer/less painful to salt them first?
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Old 2008-10-11, 17:07
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Default Re: Will Phenethylamine give effects if taken up the nose?

PEA doesn't do shit at any dose. That's all there is to it.
 
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