Ok so I got a good number of those yellow .5 clonazepams, and I took 1.5mg and then an hour or so later another 1.5. I felt relaxed and everything but not the euphoria and the "fuck it" feeling I get from xanax.

I have a very mild benzo tolerance to xanax. I usually need 3-4mg to be where I want.

So what do you guys think a pretty good recreational dose would be for 165 pound bodyweight?
I just want to be nice and high but not acting an idiot and blacking out.

There shouldnt be any 'euphoria' associated with xanax, it shouldnt even be used in the same sentence.

But to answer your question, klonopin is just as potent as xanax, so start off 3-4mg. If your not at where you want to be, pop another .5(although I doubt you will need to). Just take into consideration klonopins long half life and xanax's extremley short half life. Plan accordingly, it makes a difference

I guess I used the word euphoria lightly. When I take xanax I usually feel very happy, talkative, and have a general "don't give a shit" feeling of relaxation which qualifies as euphoria to me. Maybe not on the scale of some opiates, but still euphoric.

I stated in my post that I popped 3mg and felt decent but not that good.
I think I'll just pop 3mg off top and slowly work my way up until I'm where I want to be.


Appreciate the help though anyways.

Sell your benzos. You're the kind of person who shouldn't fuck with them.

And why is that?

Maybe you didn't feel much because you took an extremely pussy dose of klonopin? Just throwin that out there...

I'm aware that I didn't take a heroic dose of "klonopin." If you'll read the post you'll see that I'm asking what a good dose would be for a 165lb person, but it doesn't matter anymore now because I just said fuck it and ate the whole bottle.

So yeah, thanks I guess.

And why is that?

Because people who use benzos expecting euphoria and decide to pop three or four or five more because they're "not feeling it" are frequent customers of the booking station at their local county jails.

I just said fuck it and ate the whole bottle.

smart.

KO

There shouldnt be any 'euphoria' associated with xanax, it shouldnt even be used in the same sentence.

But to answer your question, klonopin is just as potent as xanax, so start off 3-4mg. If your not at where you want to be, pop another .5(although I doubt you will need to). Just take into consideration klonopins long half life and xanax's extremley short half life. Plan accordingly, it makes a difference

My thoughts exactly.

I've never understood how people call Xanax (or benzos in general) euphoric. I just don't see it myself.

As far as dosing it's all been covered by Street_Pharmacist. 3-4mg should be a good place for you to begin. Re-dose (or not) according to how you feel. Just don't continue to up the dose because you aren't getting the euphoria
You'll end up ODing because that just isn't gonna happen.

You'll end up ODing because that just isn't gonna happen.

And that should say something. You have a much better chance of od'ing on benzos then you do catching 'euphoria' from them. I think this is why benzos are the most common reason for ER visits, dumbass kids just dont understand that a xanax bar wont have the same effect that an OC will.

Take 4 of the .5 pills then hide the fucking bottle.

Because people who use benzos expecting euphoria and decide to pop three or four or five more because they're "not feeling it" are frequent customers of the booking station at their local county jails.

Euphoria-a feeling of happiness, confidence, or well-being sometimes exaggerated in pathological states as mania.


Xanax give me all of the above. Just because it doesn't make you feel the euphoria of something like oxy doesn't mean it isn't euphoric.


Also I ate around 18 of those .5 kpins and my memory's a little hazy but the people I was around said I acted pretty straight. I guess my benzo tolerance is a little high right now.

And that should say something. You have a much better chance of od'ing on benzos then you do catching 'euphoria' from them. I think this is why benzos are the most common reason for ER visits, dumbass kids just dont understand that a xanax bar wont have the same effect that an OC will.

"About 50% of the cases of death involving alprazolam were attributed to combined drug toxicity of alprazolam and another drug, most often cocaine and methadone. Only 1% of such deaths was attributed to alprazolam alone."

Way to pull statistics out of your ass.

"About 50% of the cases of death involving alprazolam were attributed to combined drug toxicity of alprazolam and another drug, most often cocaine and methadone. Only 1% of such deaths was attributed to alprazolam alone."

Way to pull statistics out of your ass.

Dude..you know god damn well the context we were using when we were talking about Euphoria. If you don't then you need to GTFO of our BLTC. You aren't feeling euphoric from Benzos. You just aren't.

Also, at least we don't need to go digging through Wiki to find ANY kind of info. Don't bring that Copy/Paste garbage up around here. No one needs your middle man knowledge.

I've also read somewhere that the most common ER visits due to ODing are some idiot kids like yourself trying to get something out of Benzos that just isn't going to be there.

"About 50% of the cases of death involving alprazolam were attributed to combined drug toxicity of alprazolam and another drug, most often cocaine and methadone. Only 1% of such deaths was attributed to alprazolam alone."

Way to pull statistics out of your ass.


What are you a fucking idiot? Learn how to fucking read before you try to start criticizing others. Show me anywhere in my post where I related benzos to any deaths or where I mentioned anything about mixing benzos with any other drugs. Shit that pathetic excuse for a quote didnt even mention anything about an emergency room. Not only that, but your wiki quote only mentioned xanax; shit this fucking thread isnt even about xanax, its about klonopin. What about the other 60+ benzos out there that are perscribed each year?

You fail miserably you pathetic excuse for a human being

You aren't feeling euphoric from Benzos. You just aren't.


Euphoria-a feeling of happiness, confidence, or well-being sometimes exaggerated in pathological states as mania.


Yes I do.

Not only that, but your wiki quote only mentioned xanax; shit this fucking thread isnt even about xanax.


I think this is why benzos are the most common reason for ER visits, dumbass kids just dont understand that a xanax bar wont have the same effect that an OC will.

You're the one who mentioned xanax first buddy.

You're the one who mentioned xanax first buddy.


I used 'xanax bar' as a general term for benzos, since xanax is the most popular one in the United States and the most kidiots love to take " 0MG T3h XanAXX!!!!"

Regardless, you have no argument. And what you feel off xanax is loss of inhibitions, not euphoria. Look that term up in the dictionary while your at it

i disagree, i find both benzos and opiates euphoric. not in the same way.

opiates are just like youre feeling great and you wanna laugh and are in a perfect world.

benzos are more like youre free of everything, and nothing else matters, but they dont create a false euphoria (not saying a false euphoria is bad).

theyre both euphoria in my opinion.

hm, maybe its just my personality that attributes this to me, but...

EDIT - in other words, opiates effect dopamine, basically giving you euphoria, a false feeling of happiness, while benzos effect GABA, lifting the stresses of life, LEAVING euphoria, but not giving you anything

do you guys get what i mean, streetpharmacist, BTO, and that acolyte nigger?

opiates GIVE you euphoria, benzos LEAVE you with it.

Euphoria-a feeling of happiness, confidence, or well-being sometimes exaggerated in pathological states as mania.


Yes I do.

You can copy/paste the definition all you want dude, you obviously aren't able to grasp what I'm trying to say. Sure you feel happy, benzos help people by relieving stress and therefore giving them a better sense of well being. I know that. What they don't do is give you euphoria in the context of drugs. The feeling you have on opiates, the warm and fuzzies for lack of a better term are what I am referring to. THAT is drug induced euphoria. Just because you feel better because benzos relieve your anxiety doesn't mean they make you euphoric in the sense that we're talking about.

If you still don't understand me I guess I can copy/paste the definition of context for you since you're such a big fan of that kind of thing.

EDIT - in other words, opiates effect dopamine, basically giving you euphoria, a false feeling of happiness, while benzos effect GABA, lifting the stresses of life, LEAVING euphoria, but not giving you anything

do you guys get what i mean, streetpharmacist, BTO, and that acolyte nigger?

opiates GIVE you euphoria, benzos LEAVE you with it.

You're walking a thin line here kwerjack, but I do understand what your talking about. I guess it all depends on what your defination of 'euphoria' is. I tend to agree with Before the Opiate on this one, but you do make a very valid point that the nigger wasnt able to. Since you are so carefree and free from the stresses of life, you feel relaxed, happy, and carefree due to total loss of inhibitions. And in some peoples mind, that classifies as euphoria; I personnaly wouldnt classify it as that, but I cant say your wrong because you think otherwise. I just wouldnt relate it to the same classical 'euphoria' that you get out of something like opiates or MDMA, but you do make a good point. As I said, it all depends on what your defination of euphoria is.

BTO actually made it more clear than i did.

opiates give you euphoria, DRUG INDUCED euphoria.

benzos leave you with euphoria, the euphoria of life.

...wut?

HAh




Just admit it the euphoria from opiates is far superior, and benzos just take a backseat to them

Just admit it the euphoria from opiates is far superior, and benzos just take a backseat to them

Apples and oranges.

I've never understood why benzos are considered abuseable. They aren't very fun. I use them to calm down and sleep when I'm wired. Definitely no euphoria. Even combining them with opiates just makes the opiate high worse.

I've never understood why benzos are considered abuseable.

You don't need to.

Arguing semantics is sooo lame.

You guys saying that benzos don't have euphoria are out of your fucking minds. People wouldn't abuse them if they didn't provide a sense of well being. Euphoria is a really broad term, so its safe to say benzos provide some form of it. You probably just don't remember how warm and fuzzy you were feeling before you passed out.

klonies are easy to take too many because the nature of the drug is to reduce stress, therefore taking out the mechanism most people rely on to tell them to stop namely the "oh shit i dont feel good anymore" feeling. You could eat a bowl of benzos and not OD, the main reason not to take more is the receptor system is "saturate able" so taking more does get you any higher, it just ups your tolerance. if you want a better high while on benzos i recommend smoking some weed, the anti anxiety fights the weed paranoia and helps you sit back and enjoy your high