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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-10-09, 00:07
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A friend of mine got 4 2mg hydromorphone tablets.

I checked erowid but the doses and bodyweight varied alot, so I really couldn't get the info I wanted.

How much would these sell for if he wanted to sell them?

I don't mess with opiates much but the last time I did I ate 75mg's of hydrocodone months after doing any other kind of opiates and got a pretty good high, but wasn't exactly where I wanted to be. I get similar effects from codeine but most people consider it and hydrocodone to be shitty opiates, but I hear good things about hydromorphone.

So if I decide to buy them from him how many mg's do you think I should eat weighing 165lbs?
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Old 2008-10-09, 00:35
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crush them all and snort, unless you wanna IV, say...2-4 mgs, depending on weight and tolerance
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Old 2008-10-09, 00:36
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crush them all and snort, unless you wanna IV, say...2-4 mgs, depending on weight and tolerance
So if I want to snort them then snort all, but if IVing 2-4mgs?
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Old 2008-10-09, 00:44
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im not too experienced i with hydromorphone but i remember being disappointed with snorting a low amount.

if youre down with the needle i believe HM is better than OC, but if you wanna go oral/snorted, OC.

i dont know too much about HM because im not into needles, so wait until a more experienced tells you a dose, but if you can, 8 mgs IN is probably alright, im more unsure about the IV dose
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Old 2008-10-09, 02:00
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So if I want to snort them then snort all, but if IVing 2-4mgs?
If you felt ok off 75mgs of HC, i would suggest 6-8mgs HM to start, and don't do any boosters since they wont help, better off waiting like 4-6 hours and doing 10-12mgs if the 6-8 didn't work. That's insufflated, if you want to IV bear in mind that some people loved this shit more than heroin due to the hydromorphone rush, that can only be topped by oxymorphone, but thats just what others tell me - I dont use needles. It also wears out so quickly you will find yourself booting that shit many times a day.

I dissolve them in small amount of water and spray into my nose via nasal spray bottle, and I have noticed that holdin the drip sublingually instead of swallowing it makes a noticeable difference. You should try crushing 10mgs and keeping it under your tongue or behind bottom lip for 10-20 minutes and report back.
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Old 2008-10-09, 02:04
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Snort 4mg of HM if its your first time. Keep another 2mg ready if your not where your at.
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Old 2008-10-09, 03:01
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If I decide to sell them how much do they go for?
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Old 2008-10-09, 03:15
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If I decide to sell them how much do they go for?
Your better off just taking it for the experience then making 4$ selling it
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Old 2008-10-09, 03:24
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Your better off just taking it for the experience then making 4$ selling it
Well I have drug tests that test for opiates so the only thing I can really pop right now is benzo's, so I was just gonna hold onto them for a little while until I had a good opportunity, but if I could get a nice deal on selling them I'd do it.

So you're saying I'd make $4 selling it which means 1 dollar a pill?
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Old 2008-10-09, 05:10
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i love dillies, with no ope tolerance 4mg would get me noddin pretty good. if you have tolerance i'd say go above that. be careful IVing that shit man, im not one to preach but i've seen many a person go down that road, and its a bitch to come back up it.
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Old 2008-10-09, 12:02
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i love dillies, with no ope tolerance 4mg would get me noddin pretty good. if you have tolerance i'd say go above that. be careful IVing that shit man, im not one to preach but i've seen many a person go down that road, and its a bitch to come back up it.


Yeah I think if I do it I'm gonna do around 4mg and if I'm not feeling like where I want to be then I'll just do some more. I don't fuck with needles though unless it's something like pure molly, lsd, or something of the like.


When you do it do you insufflate it or take it orally? Which would be better?\



Edit: Also would someone please tell me the price these pills would run.
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Edit: Also would someone please tell me the price these pills would run.

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Old 2008-10-09, 14:49
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Edit: Also would someone please tell me the price these pills would run.

I've seen them 2mgs generic "m2" sold for as little as $1 and as much as 6$, one guy that i knew would pay upwards of $10 for 2mg "k2" ones but he was a needlejunky and would wean all the time, hes also the same guy that would take HM over H or any other opiate, excluding OM.
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Old 2008-10-09, 17:00
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Yeah I think if I do it I'm gonna do around 4mg and if I'm not feeling like where I want to be then I'll just do some more. I don't fuck with needles though unless it's something like pure molly, lsd, or something of the like.

When you do it do you insufflate it or take it orally? Which would be better?\

Edit: Also would someone please tell me the price these pills would run.
http://panthrax.host.sk/bioavailability.html

"Hydromorphone-- 5-8 times as potent as morphine, intranasal- 52.4%, Rectal administration 33% ,Oral-30-35%, IV- around 80-90%"

what would you rather have, ~52%, or ~30-35?

it really isn't that hard to UTFSE. plus, PanthraX-Nation is very well known around here...

as for pricing, when i got mine i got them ridiculously cheap, but that was because my friend had a script. i've seen the 4mg consistently sell for 9-10 a pop like crazy.
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