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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2008-10-08, 04:58
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Default ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

I had some time off today and I found some good resources that you might be interested in.

Here's a good overview of buddhism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

Here's an all right overview of Taoism. I think they present too much of a ritualized view of Taoism but it's a good starting point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism

Here's a good overview of Zen, which is actually a part of Buddhist philosophy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_buddhism

Here's a good overview of the concept of Nirvana:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana

Here's a good overview on meditation. It doesn't actually tell how to do it properly, just different concepts on meditation. If you become interested in it, I can point out a good book to help you or I can get you started on it. There is a proper way to meditate, and most people don't realize this, to achieve the goal of Zen, which is satori, or enlightenment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation

I threw this one in just for fun. You might find it interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoist_sexual_practices


These should get you started. I'll post more if I can find or remember any good articles or books. I am by no means an expert on Buddhist thought but I know quite a lot about Taoism and Zen Buddhism. If you have any questions, let me know. I'll try my best to answer them. Like I said before, you should really look into Zen Buddhism and meditation. You won't regret it.:)
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Old 2008-10-08, 11:15
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Default Re: ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

OP: I edited your title in order to let passersby be aware of the content within.
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Old 2008-10-08, 17:58
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Default Re: ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

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Originally Posted by AngryFemme
OP: I edited your title in order to let passersby be aware of the content within.


Oh, okay. Thanks. Sorry about that.
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Old 2008-10-11, 03:04
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Default Re: ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

Actually the Chinese Taoism is something like Greek mythology that involved the worshiping of Gods and Deities, so unless you're a Chinese or wanting to embrace Chinese culture, it's going to be awkward for a white to pick-up Taoism, just like it's going to be weird for a non-white to worship Zeus and all His fellow Gods...just MHO...
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Old 2008-10-12, 00:05
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Default Re: ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

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Actually the Chinese Taoism is something like Greek mythology that involved the worshiping of Gods and Deities, so unless you're a Chinese or wanting to embrace Chinese culture, it's going to be awkward for a white to pick-up Taoism, just like it's going to be weird for a non-white to worship Zeus and all His fellow Gods...just MHO...


Actually, there's three distinct, and different, types of Taoism. You're referring to one of them. Not all Taoists follow the ritual worship of Deities.
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Old 2008-10-12, 18:29
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Theres a member named silverfuck?
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Old 2008-10-12, 19:00
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Actually, there's three distinct, and different, types of Taoism. You're referring to one of them. Not all Taoists follow the ritual worship of Deities.

Oh,..look ! another case of ignorant American labeling all different things into ONE and just call them all "A".

Like when they lump all yellows (chinese,japanese,vietnamese,thais,philipiness and even mongolian) and just call them "asians/orientals", and then go on telling people how there are many type of "chinks."

This is kinda how this is...you kno ?
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Old 2008-10-12, 21:26
freeRadical freeRadical is offline
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Default Re: ATTN: Silverfuck (good overview of buddhism)

Oh,..look ! another case of ignorant American labeling all different things into ONE and just call them all "A".

Like when they lump all yellows (chinese,japanese,vietnamese,thais,philipiness and even mongolian) and just call them "asians/orientals", and then go on telling people how there are many type of "chinks."

This is kinda how this is...you kno ?

(sigh)

There is debate over how, and whether, Taoism should be subdivided. Livia Kohn divided it into the following three categories:[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-1)


"Philosophical Taoism" (Daojia 道家). A philosophical school (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) based on the texts Dao De Jing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dao_De_Jing) (道德經) and Zhuangzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi) (莊子);
"Religious Taoism" (Daojiao 道教). A family of organized Chinese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China) religious movements originating from the Celestial Masters movement during the late Han Dynasty and later including the "Orthodox" (Zhengyi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhengyi_Dao) 正義) and "Complete Reality" (Quanzhen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanzhen) 全真) sects, which claim lineages going back to Lao Zi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lao_Zi) (老子) or Zhang Daoling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Daoling) in the late Han Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty);
"Folk Taoism". The Chinese folk religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion).

This distinction is complicated by hermeneutic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutic) (interpretive) difficulties in the categorization of Taoist schools, sects and movements.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-2) Many scholars believe that there is no distinction between Daojia and Daojiao.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-3) Kirkland states that most scholars have abandoned the dichotomy of "religious" and "philosophical" Taoism.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-4) Hansen states that the identification of "Taoism" as such first occurred in the early Han Dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty) when dao-jia was identified as a single school.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-5) The writings of Laozi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi) and Zhuangzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuangzi) were linked together under this single tradition during the Han Dynasty, but notably not before.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-6) It is unlikely that Zhuangzi was familiar with the text of the Daodejing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daodejing).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-8) Additionally, Graham states that Zhuangzi would not have identified himself as a Taoist, a classification that did not arise until well after his death.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-9)
Taoism does not fall strictly under an umbrella or a definition of an organized religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_religion) like the Abrahamic traditions, nor can it purely be studied as the originator or a variant of Chinese folk religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion), as much of the traditional religion is outside of the tenets and core teachings of Taoism.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-10) Robinet asserts that Taoism is better understood as a way of life than as a religion, and that its adherents do not approach or view Taoism the way non-Taoist historians have done.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-11) Henri Maspero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Maspero) stated that many scholarly works conclude Taoism is a school of thought with a quest for immortality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism#cite_note-12)
 
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