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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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2008-10-07, 23:19
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Smoking meth.... whats the point?
So I tried smoking meth a couple days ago at my friends kickback (he was kinda pissed when he found out).
My question is, what is the point? I mean sure I felt pretty good for a couple of hours (after "speedy" effects lasted for 2 days). Part of me wants to do it again but another part thinks it's such a stupid drug that there is really no point.
I don't plan on ever doing it again, I was just wondering how people can get so addicted and like it so much. I'm pretty sure the stuff I smoked (a 40 sack between me and a good friend) was pretty pure but not 100%.
But.... why? I'd so much rather eat some shrooms or drop cid or even smoke a couple of bowls with some friends than be tweaked the fuck out playing Wii for 2 days straight, cleaning shit, and doing more fucking crossword puzzles than my great grandma does in a year.
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2008-10-07, 23:25
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
i dont really no if you can say whast the point of a drug, when every drug has its own reason. Meth amphetamine is one of the best amphetamines out there. if you didnt enjoy it as much as you should have, then its not your shit. but thousands love it
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2008-10-07, 23:27
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by Maddict
So I tried smoking meth a couple days ago at my friends kickback (he was kinda pissed when he found out).
My question is, what is the point? I mean sure I felt pretty good for a couple of hours (after "speedy" effects lasted for 2 days). Part of me wants to do it again but another part thinks it's such a stupid drug that there is really no point.
I don't plan on ever doing it again, I was just wondering how people can get so addicted and like it so much. I'm pretty sure the stuff I smoked (a 40 sack between me and a good friend) was pretty pure but not 100%.
But.... why? I'd so much rather eat some shrooms or drop cid or even smoke a couple of bowls with some friends than be tweaked the fuck out playing Wii for 2 days straight, cleaning shit, and doing more fucking crossword puzzles than my great grandma does in a year.
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Well dude maybe you can give some to your grandma if she wishes to have a cleaner house along with a repertoire of innumerable completed crossword puzzles.
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2008-10-07, 23:29
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by NitrousBuddy
i dont really no if you can say whast the point of a drug, when every drug has its own reason. Meth amphetamine is one of the best amphetamines out there. if you didnt enjoy it as much as you should have, then its not your shit. but thousands love it
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Yeah I guess you are right. It's just not my thing, maybe it would be more enjoyable if it wasn't so addicting.
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Well dude maybe you can give some to your grandma if she wishes to have a cleaner house along with a repertoire of innumerable completed crossword puzzles.
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I think she might already.
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2008-10-07, 23:32
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
i agree with you. i mean ive never tried meth but i just dont see whats so appealing about stimulants. there are just so many more side effects that outweigh the (IMO disappointing) effects of them. coke is kinda an exception, but its just..coke.
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2008-10-07, 23:34
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
But now that I think about it, there are so many different kinds of people with some many different kinds of personalities some are bound to enjoy it.
Psychedelics have always been my thing and always will be I think. They hold more of a personal and kind spiritual thing with me.... even though I'm not religious at all.
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2008-10-08, 00:12
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I don't see how anyone can get addicted to stimulants. I mean, I love tweaking, but unless I have a huge project going I wont binge. Ive gone through week long periods on tweak, but I kept buisy making 800+ psi automatic strafer guns, building pneumatic cannons, perfecting my balisong skillz, or whatever my particular project at the moment is. I do stims nearly every weekend, but once I start using more frequently it is purely to increase productivity.
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2008-10-08, 00:30
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
i got pissed when i read this thread title. fuck you, thats the point. meth is awesome.
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2008-10-08, 00:44
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I would never do meth, simply because it seems so addicting.
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2008-10-08, 00:49
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by spencetron
I don't see how anyone can get addicted to stimulants. I mean, I love tweaking, but unless I have a huge project going I wont binge. Ive gone through week long periods on tweak, but I kept buisy making 800+ psi automatic strafer guns, building pneumatic cannons, perfecting my balisong skillz, or whatever my particular project at the moment is. I do stims nearly every weekend, but once I start using more frequently it is purely to increase productivity.
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people like you make meth seem alright.
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 2008-10-08, 00:52
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by The Last MentleGam
I would never do meth, simply because it seems so addicting.
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If you have any real degree of self control it really isn't.
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#12
 2008-10-08, 03:28
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
If you have any real degree of self control it really isn't.
^^^^
this nigga is right.
Whats the point of smoking weed?
Whats the point of Rolling, or doing acid?
Its something to do.
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#13
 2008-10-08, 03:32
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
to manage your ADHD......duh...
as previously stated, its the same with any drug. it might have a few medicinal effects, but most people are going to take it for the fun of it.
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#14
 2008-10-08, 03:35
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
If you have any real degree of self control it really isn't.
but thats not wut tha newz tells me!
haha, i am a big fan of dextro-amp, and id assume meth to be even better, although im pretty confident about not getting addicted because.... on drug= feeling good(obviously) drug wears off= not feeling as well......lets do it again in a week?
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#15
 2008-10-08, 04:32
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
but thats not wut tha newz tells me!
haha, i am a big fan of dextro-amp, and id assume meth to be even better, although im pretty confident about not getting addicted because.... on drug= feeling good(obviously) drug wears off= not feeling as well......lets do it again in a week?
i'll take my dexamp script over meth any day and i've smoked my fair share of good meth
for some reason meth makes me more liable to hang out with friends and whatnot rather than handle my business for the day, deal with people, the whole nine.. whereas on dexamp i handle my shit first rather than later, also meth makes me fiend for more sometimes which i obviously don't like.
dexamp 10-40mg a day is also not nearly as neurotoxic as meth is i'm sure, especially with the dosages ppl usually use with meth considering most meth users use it recreationally and not medicinally
but to OP i use amphetamines to move faster, handle shit quicker and more efficiently, make more money and drastically boost my mental state of mind
if I ever run out I never fiend for more, I simply wait until my script refills. amps aren't addicting unless you allow them to be
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 2008-10-08, 05:14
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
amps aren't addicting unless you allow them to be
Oh yea, and if you drink a half gallon of vodka you can choose not to be drunk because "you're only as drunk as you let yourself be."
That's complete BS, although I've never had a dependence to amps, they do cause physical addiction...and you will get physical withdraws from which another dose would repress them. That's pretty much physical dependence.
That is to go without saying someone is able to control the psychological part of the addiction...which is possible. But you can't prevent getting physically addicted any more than you can prevent yourself from getting drunk if you take a half gallon to the dome.
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 2008-10-08, 05:23
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
[/QUOTE]but to OP i use amphetamines to move faster, handle shit quicker and more efficiently, make more money and drastically boost my mental state of mind
if I ever run out I never fiend for more, I simply wait until my script refills. amps aren't addicting unless you allow them to be[/QUOTE]
yep, thats my mentality exactly
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#18
 2008-10-08, 05:26
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by The Last MentleGam
I would never do meth, simply because it seems so addicting.
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Same here.
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 2008-10-08, 07:26
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
Oh yea, and if you drink a half gallon of vodka you can choose not to be drunk because "you're only as drunk as you let yourself be."
That's complete BS, although I've never had a dependence to amps, they do cause physical addiction...and you will get physical withdraws from which another dose would repress them. That's pretty much physical dependence.
That is to go without saying someone is able to control the psychological part of the addiction...which is possible. But you can't prevent getting physically addicted any more than you can prevent yourself from getting drunk if you take a half gallon to the dome.
agreed....
realistically some people take a half gallon to the head and decide alcohol just isn't for them....in those amounts :)
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#20
 2008-10-08, 07:33
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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but to OP i use amphetamines to move faster, handle shit quicker and more efficiently, make more money and drastically boost my mental state of mind....
I'm not saying theres anything wrong with that but have you ever done the math. Is the increase in profit > the cost of that shit?
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#21
 2008-10-08, 10:53
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I find most stimulants very shallow. Coke I enjoy, but it's pretty rare to see around my town, other then that I only realy touch dex, 4-MAR and sometimes metcat, but those are all merely for utility purposes. I don't use 'em to get high, I use 'em for study and long nights in the lab.
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#22
 2008-10-08, 12:56
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
i smoked some tweak once it was shitty shit and didnt get too tweaked out. definately didnt sleep.
ive done adderall on occasion to but that was for school projects and times when sleep needed to be denied.
downers>Uppers.
never saw the point of having to have another drug when ur coming down off another.
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#23
 2008-10-08, 13:46
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
Amphetamines are great for those of us who enjoy doing more than just lounging around on the couch all day. If you're the guy who just does drugs to get "chill" and "buzzed", then amps/methamps aren't for you.
That aside, no other drug gives me the confidence and drive that amps do. I know a lot of you lethargic stoners here are unemployed and do nothing to maintain the upkeep of your own households, so I'm sure the concepts of working or cleaning or keeping shit in order is a foreign concept better left to mom and dad. But I'll tell you what, looking around at my spotless house with the laundry done and the hedges trimmed and the dishes washed and the windows cleaned when I've only been awake for two hours is a lot more fulfilling then fading out on the couch all day and not getting jack-shit done.
Don't be so general in your perception of what "getting high" means.
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#24
 2008-10-08, 15:06
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
downers>Uppers.
Downers + Uppers = Win.
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#25
 2008-10-09, 03:50
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by Piles Of Crack
Amphetamines are great for those of us who enjoy doing more than just lounging around on the couch all day. If you're the guy who just does drugs to get "chill" and "buzzed", then amps/methamps aren't for you.
That aside, no other drug gives me the confidence and drive that amps do. I know a lot of you lethargic stoners here are unemployed and do nothing to maintain the upkeep of your own households, so I'm sure the concepts of working or cleaning or keeping shit in order is a foreign concept better left to mom and dad. But I'll tell you what, looking around at my spotless house with the laundry done and the hedges trimmed and the dishes washed and the windows cleaned when I've only been awake for two hours is a lot more fulfilling then fading out on the couch all day and not getting jack-shit done.
Don't be so general in your perception of what "getting high" means.
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lol or when you pick your balls to shit and then post pics about it on totse (wasn't you but its still relevant).
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#26
 2008-10-09, 03:53
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
lol or when you pick your balls to shit and then post pics about it on totse (wasn't you but its still relevant).
I can feel the grease on your skin from here.
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#27
 2008-10-09, 04:40
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I'm not actually a spic, nor am I stinky. And are spics known for having greasy skin? There aren't very many in canada, I'm afraid I don't know the spic stereotypes. (other than their stinky).
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#28
 2008-10-09, 05:00
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Ed Lister 
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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Originally Posted by Stinky Spic
I'm not actually a spic, nor am I stinky. And are spics known for having greasy skin? There aren't very many in canada, I'm afraid I don't know the spic stereotypes. (other than their stinky).
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Taco lies.
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#29
 2008-10-09, 05:05
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
different strokes for different folks...
it's really that simple dude.
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#30
 2008-10-09, 05:29
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
Taco lies.
I could prove it with pics, but you seem to stupid to waste the effort on. Plus im going to bed now.
edit: and if i was a spic, i wouldn't put it in my name, then deny. I would proud of whatever race I was, because im arrogant, cocky and racist. Hence the name.
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#31
 2008-10-09, 06:00
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
Oh yea, and if you drink a half gallon of vodka you can choose not to be drunk because "you're only as drunk as you let yourself be."
That's complete BS, although I've never had a dependence to amps, they do cause physical addiction...and you will get physical withdraws from which another dose would repress them. That's pretty much physical dependence.
That is to go without saying someone is able to control the psychological part of the addiction...which is possible. But you can't prevent getting physically addicted any more than you can prevent yourself from getting drunk if you take a half gallon to the dome.
first off "the psychological part of the addiction" is the ONLY part of the addiction, you can tell yourself amphetamines are physically addicting all you want, it isn't going to make it true.
also you CAN prevent yourself from "getting drunk if you take a half gallon to the dome", you just don't drink a fucking half gallon. you drink what's necessary and leave it at that, what's so hard about that?
and yes I damn well the fuck can prevent myself from getting addicted, I love heroin and have been smoking it for years. do I do it daily? no, I do it once every 2 months or so, and control the potential REAL addiction that may come of it (physical addiction).
don't preach AA shit to me man, i've had to goto court enough to where i've had my share of AA meetings and you sound just like those fuckers.
I had a guy tell me once that AA meetings were like his insulin to a diabetic and he would die without them, don't be that guy. I do have power over my addictions, and don't need a third party to help me fly straight.
amps are NOT physically addicting. they CAN BE very mentally addictive though I don't deny that.
there's nothing bs about what I said though, anyone can manage any drug, they just need to go about it the right way and not be a complete dipshit, I refrain from saying idiot because I myself make mistakes as well, especially high, so that term is rather harsh. but wake up, amps are not like above the influence and shit make them out to be. I've been on and off meth/adderall/dexamps for the past cpl years and have gone weeks to months without them after 6-7 month binges and if I even had to go through a middle man to get them again, i'd say fuck it and wait until I can get them myself.
I also goto the gym on a regular basis, hold a job, and am very socially active even without amps after having used them so many years.
and to the guy asking me about weighing pros and cons, yes it is worth it, live in the now. for all you know you can die tomorrow, enjoy yourself while you can. If you ever become a kemo patient or something extreme you can always kill yourself hunter style unless you're some brainwashed christian
I pay $10 a month for script, and without it I would probably be broke, homeless, carless, and getting no pussy. Is it worth it to me? yes.
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1009080154mt8.jpg
i don't know if you can see that or not but i get 180 of those a month for $10, is that worth it to you? even if you don't take them for personal use? damn straight, i charge people $20 for 5 of them.
also, different strokes for different folks...
it's really that simple dude.
listen to this man, everyones different, just because one person can control their hedonistic nature and not let it take over their life doesn't mean another can. well they probably still can, it will just take more work.
"Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish—a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow—to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested . . . Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll."
—Gonzo Papers, Vol. 2: Generation of Swine: Tales of Shame and Degradation in the '80s, 1988
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 2008-10-09, 06:01
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I could prove it with pics, but you seem to stupid to waste the effort on. Plus im going to bed now.
edit: and if i was a spic, i wouldn't put it in my name, then deny. I would proud of whatever race I was, because im arrogant, cocky and racist. Hence the name.
Oh, what a lame cop out. We all know that you won't post pics as they will be of greasy beaner with features of a week old burrito with glasses on an old-ass computer and his mother hugging him to stem the flow of tears that run freely after every school day's beatings.
It really is sad when a young man displays such severe signs of delusion and lack of pride.
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#33
 2008-10-09, 09:16
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
first off "the psychological part of the addiction" is the ONLY part of the addiction, you can tell yourself amphetamines are physically addicting all you want, it isn't going to make it true.
also you CAN prevent yourself from "getting drunk if you take a half gallon to the dome", you just don't drink a fucking half gallon. you drink what's necessary and leave it at that, what's so hard about that?
and yes I damn well the fuck can prevent myself from getting addicted, I love heroin and have been smoking it for years. do I do it daily? no, I do it once every 2 months or so, and control the potential REAL addiction that may come of it (physical addiction).
don't preach AA shit to me man, i've had to goto court enough to where i've had my share of AA meetings and you sound just like those fuckers.
I had a guy tell me once that AA meetings were like his insulin to a diabetic and he would die without them, don't be that guy. I do have power over my addictions, and don't need a third party to help me fly straight.
amps are NOT physically addicting. they CAN BE very mentally addictive though I don't deny that.
there's nothing bs about what I said though, anyone can manage any drug, they just need to go about it the right way and not be a complete dipshit, I refrain from saying idiot because I myself make mistakes as well, especially high, so that term is rather harsh. but wake up, amps are not like above the influence and shit make them out to be. I've been on and off meth/adderall/dexamps for the past cpl years and have gone weeks to months without them after 6-7 month binges and if I even had to go through a middle man to get them again, i'd say fuck it and wait until I can get them myself.
I also goto the gym on a regular basis, hold a job, and am very socially active even without amps after having used them so many years.
and to the guy asking me about weighing pros and cons, yes it is worth it, live in the now. for all you know you can die tomorrow, enjoy yourself while you can. If you ever become a kemo patient or something extreme you can always kill yourself hunter style unless you're some brainwashed christian
I pay $10 a month for script, and without it I would probably be broke, homeless, carless, and getting no pussy. Is it worth it to me? yes.
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1009080154mt8.jpg
i don't know if you can see that or not but i get 180 of those a month for $10, is that worth it to you? even if you don't take them for personal use? damn straight, i charge people $20 for 5 of them.
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listen to this man, everyones different, just because one person can control their hedonistic nature and not let it take over their life doesn't mean another can. well they probably still can, it will just take more work.
"Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberisha product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blowto sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested . . . Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll."
Gonzo Papers, Vol. 2: Generation of Swine: Tales of Shame and Degradation in the '80s, 1988
alright...i take that back. It was my bad that i didn't do my research before opening my mouth. I am humbled and have learned my lesson.
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 2008-10-09, 09:47
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
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i agree with you. i mean ive never tried meth but i just dont see whats so appealing about stimulants. there are just so many more side effects that outweigh the (IMO disappointing) effects of them. coke is kinda an exception, but its just..coke.
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thats how it starts...
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#35
 2008-10-09, 12:24
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
I had a guy tell me once that AA meetings were like his insulin to a diabetic and he would die without them, don't be that guy.
Oh but you don't understand, he has a DISEASE! It's not his fault he squandered his kid's college money-- that was the alcohol's fault!
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#36
 2008-10-09, 14:56
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
thats how it starts...
lol nah im never gonnna touch meth after coke..
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#37
 2008-10-09, 16:31
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
The point of amphetamines is they make you get shit done AND they make the shit you do fun.
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#38
 2008-10-09, 17:03
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
lol nah im never gonnna touch meth after coke..
meth lasts longer than coke, and (depending on where you live and what your hookups are) is generally cheaper/more/longer lasting for your money. plus, when i'm on coke i'm not really in a mood to do work and shit (well, sometimes) but with amps all i want to do is get shit done, and have fun in the process:D
The point of amphetamines is they make you get shit done AND they make the shit you do fun.
very true.
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#39
 2008-10-09, 19:53
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
ok shams, im not gonna get addicted to meth. stop trying to act like you know what youre talking about. i dont like stimulants in the first place, and have had bad experiences with coke, so just shut up. im never gonna even try meth.
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#40
 2008-10-09, 19:57
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
its hella addictive if you do it 3 or more times. I smoked the shit and snorted it
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#41
 2008-10-09, 22:10
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Re: Smoking meth.... whats the point?
i got pissed when i read this thread title. Fuck you, thats the point. Meth is awesome.
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