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| Weapons and Combat This is the forum dedicated to weapons, martial arts, and their related technical, political and social issues. Weapons and Combat is for the safe and responsible use of firearms, knives, fists and other weapons. |
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#1
 2008-10-06, 22:17 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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 Purchasing one's first gun.
Yesterday I went to the Cincinnati leg of Bill Pullman's Gun & Knife Show with a friend; he had been there the day before, and purchased a Walther PPS .40, and returned with me the following day so that we could pick up targets and ammunition for an hour or two at the range.
When I inquired as to how he went about purchasing his firearm, he essentially told me that he told the vendor what he was interested in, had to fill out a form asking various questions, and then the dealer assumedly contacted the NICS system to determine ownership eligibility, and that was apparently "it." Done deal.
It it really this simple? The same gun show is returning to town in mid-November and I'd like to purchase, among other items, an SKS, and a Mosin-Nagant or Tokarev. I'm twenty and will be turning twenty-one in January.
Your advice and guidance will be much appreciated --
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#2
2008-10-06, 22:37 |
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
When I inquired as to how he went about purchasing his firearm, he essentially told me that he told the vendor what he was interested in, had to fill out a form asking various questions, and then the dealer assumedly contacted the NICS system to determine ownership eligibility, and that was apparently "it." Done deal.
Well, he probably had to pay for it at some point... :p
But yeah that sounds about right.
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#3
2008-10-06, 22:53 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
Well, he probably had to pay for it at some point... :p
But yeah that sounds about right.
Well of course, guns don't come for free! 
As a matter of fact they're quite expensive! 
It just seems much simpler than I would have expected. |
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#4
2008-10-06, 23:02 |
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
Step 1: Fill out form 4473 (asks questions like, are you a drug addict?)
Step 2: Dealer calls NICS and does an instant background check. You will either be passed or delayed. If you have anything on your record, you will be delayed while they do research (This means that obviously unless your record is clean, you probably won't be able to buy at a gun show with this method). They will either call back several days later with yes, no, or they won't call back at all, which counts the same as a yes after 3 business days. This entire process can be circumvented if you have a permit to carry or other state issued firearms permit, in many states.
Step 3: Pay for weapon and GTFO.
18 for rifles and shotguns, 21 for handguns is the law in most states. Some states restrict what types of guns you can have and at what age and so forth. Look into your specifics before you go to make your purchase.
Welcome to the world of firearms.
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#5
2008-10-06, 23:12 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
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Originally Posted by Exothermia
Step 1: Fill out form 4473 (asks questions like, are you a drug addict?)
Step 2: Dealer calls NICS and does an instant background check. You will either be passed or delayed. If you have anything on your record, you will be delayed while they do research (This means that obviously unless your record is clean, you probably won't be able to buy at a gun show with this method). They will either call back several days later with yes, no, or they won't call back at all, which counts the same as a yes after 3 business days. This entire process can be circumvented if you have a permit to carry or other state issued firearms permit, in many states.
Step 3: Pay for weapon and GTFO.
18 for rifles and shotguns, 21 for handguns is the law in most states. Some states restrict what types of guns you can have and at what age and so forth. Look into your specifics before you go to make your purchase.
Welcome to the world of firearms.
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I looked up a copy of form 4473 and it looks quite simple. As I have a clean record there's nothing of particular concern to me.
Ohio allows rifle and shotgun purchases for those above age eighteen whom are not yet 21, and handgun purchases for those individuals aged 21 and older.
Ohio has also passed a concealed carry law and I plan on obtaining such a permit in February after I have attained that age.
Thank you for the welcome. |
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#6
2008-10-08, 21:44 |
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
Great choices. A man after my own heart. :)
I myself have an sks, and an m39 (mosin-nagant retooled by the finnish). If you get your hands on a tokarev be sure to post pix.
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#7
2008-10-09, 01:41 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
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Originally Posted by OneMestizo
Great choices. A man after my own heart. :)
I myself have an sks, and an m39 (mosin-nagant retooled by the finnish). If you get your hands on a tokarev be sure to post pix.
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An article I recently read seemingly placed the value of the Tokarev at a much lower cost than what I'd previously imagined, which leaves me a little disappointed and an SVT-40 financially out of reach at the moment.
However, an SKS and Mosin-Nagant will be quite purchasable -- got paid today and put away $300 for the mid-November gun show; also being paid on Nov. 5th and Oct. 22nd, I should have between $500-$600 total for the show. I'll also probably pick up a .22 rifle for plinking and small game.
Come the end of January upon turning 21 I'll also (hopefully) have saved enough for an M1911 .45 -- very excited about that. |
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#8
2008-10-10, 13:58 |
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
How difficult is it to get ammunition for the Tokarev?
I'm in the market for a Makarov, myself. :)
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#9
2008-10-10, 23:29 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
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Originally Posted by ArgonPlasma2000
How difficult is it to get ammunition for the Tokarev?
I'm in the market for a Makarov, myself. :)
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From what I've seen and understand surplus ammunition is dirt cheap but uses a corrosive primer -- shoot it all ya want, just clean your gun after the fact! |
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#10
2008-10-11, 19:12 |
gsebry
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
May I join the party.
I'm purchasing a 12 gauge shot gun on thursday.
Paper work is being done.
Came here to ask about instructional web sites, for first time long gun owners.
Thanks
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#11
2008-10-11, 21:14 |
Exothermia
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
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Originally Posted by gsebry
May I join the party.
I'm purchasing a 12 gauge shot gun on thursday.
Paper work is being done.
Came here to ask about instructional web sites, for first time long gun owners.
Thanks
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Check out this thread first:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=1991447
And have fun. |
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#12
2008-10-13, 20:35 |
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Wasilla, Alaska
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
At gun shows, I almost always purchase privately, thusly:
1. I hand dealer the money.
2. He hands me the gun.
Done deal.
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#13
2008-10-13, 20:46 |
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Narnia. It is a silly place.
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Re: Purchasing one's first gun.
^^ No worries, I'm now the proud owner of a 1935 M91/30 Mosin-Nagant mostly made the Tula arsenal with an Izhevsk bolt, as well as a Ruger 10/22 which I just brought home a bit ago and will be posting in my other thread upon purchasing batteries for the digicam.
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