Okay I know this has been done to death but I feel my situation is a bit different:

I have been studying psychoactives for a good year and a half now and have never taken anything more than an aspirin. Because of the knowledge that I've acquired (mostly with psychedelics) I have been able to find the "drug nexus" of my school and potentially have access to just about any psychedelic I could desire. My spiritual development is pretty high for an atheist--I meditate often and try to attain spiritual states when I lucid dream but whenever I read a trip report I'm always depressed that I have such access to these magical substances but refuse to let myself near them because I'd rather save the experience for a special time.

Now I know most of you will just say "lol omg fkcuking take them ya pussy" but I know that I have totally legitimate reasons for putting off any drug use. So if my goal is spiritual reclamation rather than euphoria or just to get fuxxored, which is the better option to take: a) Take drugs now (probably oral DMT followed by shrooms or LSD, haven't decided which) or put them off until a special time (probably some hippie festival) where I can do them in complete peace and in a spiritual environment. Does waiting for it make it a lot better or should I take them now because I'll inevitably have to space out my experience over long periods of time? Oh, and I'd also appreciate it if the regulars who use drugs for insight rather than euphoria would reply to this. Thanks.

Luckily you are planning on taking them for all the right reasons, however i would not start off with oral DMT, from what i've read, ayahuasca can be extremely overwhelming even for the most experienced tripper.

I would personally start off with mushrooms, don't be afraid to take 3.5 grams your first time, this will give you a good idea of what the world of psychedelics is like. I've found that mushrooms are much easier to handle than LSD, they feel much more natural to me at least. As well as if the trip is going badly you will start coming down sooner.

I would say for your reasons of taking them you should do them alone to be the most fulfilled, though I would make sure you have someone to call that you trust in case things start going to shit when your on them.

Also, no matter what you've read about any of these drugs, you have no idea what they will be like until you are peaking on them. I might also recommend trying marijuana before the pyschs just because its kind of an introduction for the highs that LSD and mushrooms produce.

Anyway good luck, i'll try to respond to this thread often if you have questions etc.

definitely smoke weed a few times first.

Try it in this order

1) good ol' WEED
2) shrooms or acid (really the trips aren't as intense as some would say)
3) DMT it up

I dropepd cid before i ever tried acid and to me, acid is very mind-clearing and mechanical, you are like 10x smarter and the hallucinations are very blocky, NES-style-looking.

Shrooms on the other hand make things warp more in addition to making you a lot dumber in some ways but you still get some of the weird philosophical insights like LSD. The hallucinations are weirder (to me) because they seem more organic and "alive" instead of digital...

they're comparable in my opinion

this is how it went for me.

weed, lsa (HBWR), e (if you count it), shrooms, acid.

I wouldn't wait till a festival for my first time, it could be too overwhelming. My first mushroom trip that wasn't a complete wreck (don't ever do shit like that at school) involved my friend and I sitting on my other friends basement floor and it was the best trip I've ever had on mushrooms. The combination of being with someone else on the same drug, someone who I've known since grade 1 and being in the basement of my friend from grade 2 was enough positive vibes. You should be in a place you're comfortable in with people who you like and trust. I'd recommend smoking pot first to get used to being in high places but don't expect psychedelics to be anything like weed. As for acid/shrooms, acid lasts longer and can get insanely visual where as mushrooms are shorter but are heavy on the mind and the confusion and muddled up thoughts can lead to a bad trip (still not often) so I think I'd do acid first but then again my shroom experience is the reason that random objects moving around and changing colours didn't faze me when I first tried acid. If I were you I'd buy the drugs so you don't lose your connections (they won't be there forever) and then just do it when you're ready. I've had many many trips and I'm still scared to try DMT it's a little intense.

I find mushrooms to be much more intense and unmanageable than LSD or mescaline. I don't mean it in a negative way, I just found them to be much more intoxicating and intense than acid. Then again, I ate the equivalent of somewhere between 4g and 6g my first and only experience with them.

I find mushrooms to be wholly emotionally tied, whereas LSD is heavily tied in, but there's also the moments of just "Whoa, that was weird."

Mescaline = peace, at least so far as my 30+ trips have informed me.

I'd seriously suggest mescaline for an introduction to psychoactives, including before marijuana, provided that you're ready to set aside the sixteen hours for the trip. But marijuana is another good starter, I'd recommend using it before mushrooms or LSD at the very least.

I'm going to have to get something mescaline containing soon, i've wanted to try it for a while, some say its as nice a feeling as MDMA.

some say its as nice a feeling as MDMA.

no they dont.

Whenever you decide to do either mushrooms or acid, make sure your in a good mood with no bad thoughts lingering in the back of your head when you're going into the trip. Have chill music on deck, and definitely get high while you trip. Maybe not more than a couple hits, in my experiences, a little goes a long way. You can judge for yourself, though.

no they dont.
Thanks for elaborating the differences man, your post helped out a ton.

From what i've read people do say its an extremely nice euphoria though.

Thanks for elaborating the differences man, your post helped out a ton.

From what i've read people do say its an extremely nice euphoria though.

It's a different sort of euphoria from MDMA. You wouldn't confuse LSD euphoria with MDMA euphoria and it's basically the same with mescaline.

I love it how it is considered cool and being independent on Totse to only use psychedelics for spiritual matters.

N.B. Everyone here says it. You are not an individual. If you were to be doing research you would get both sides of the story, you spic.

You call yourself an atheist? I could never imagine an atheist accepting you. Atheist do not have spiritual sides. At worst you are an agnostic.

Instead of taking drugs for the same reason that EVERYONE else is doing them, how about you make up your own fucking mind, or just not use drugs at all?

BTW oral DMT won't work unless you have MAO to go a long with it.

I want to use psychedelics because I really enjoy seeing life unfold in a different perspective (good or bad), the fact that these altered states are even possible is amazing to me, thats why I can't WAIT for my 2c-e and my blotters.

I wouldn't wait until a festival, I think achieving a higher mental state or whatever should be relevent to dealing with your everyday life.

I personally just go for acid tabs everytime and it always does the trick.. Whenever there's anything confusing the hell out of me or I need to find a way out of a mess i've created or see things in a new way etc. I just take it in one of my average everyday situations - whether it's chilling with a few friends or wandering round or at home(which was the best experience i've had so far; I've never felt so much clarity and optimism for things I used to question every day) But I would advise doing it around good people first and not overloading it...

I personally find it best to be at a balanced level where my mind is completely open yet I still have the ability to act and think reasonably normal. When I took liquid that stuff fucked me up so much I lost alot more control than I'd of liked to and, although the strongest dosage i've had, by the next day I realised it had benefitted me the least out of all my trips. Even though I realised some amazing things, it didn't lead me to many clues about my own life and who I was..i went beyond the restraints of being an individual soul/person and 'forgot' about myself completely.

I think taking most things on a 'special occasion' would be more suited to doing it for fun but like someone else said, get your hands on something now while you can and do it when you feel the time is right!


TheBlackPope

Instead of taking drugs for the same reason that EVERYONE else is doing them, how about you make up your own fucking mind, or just not use drugs at all?
The mass is still made up out of individuals and if all those individuals are personally benefitting from doing what everyone else is doing, who gives a fuck? It's awesome people are wanting to discover it for themselves.

just shut up and do it

Just do it, I took about a little over 2 grams of shrooms when I was 14. I had already got drunk and smoked pot a lot of times by then so I was more "ready", however the weirdness of it was surprising to me. But its not bad you have an interesting time and relax.

Just don't take it so seriously and it won't seem so serious, you'll be be able to not worry about it, you just don't know that there is nothing to worry about.

Do you guys really think he is debating it still? It's been 2 months.

Look at my post above, It's old enough that I have my 2ce, and already ate my blotters. lol