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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1
2008-10-01, 13:52
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Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
This looks like some good shit! (from Wikipedia)
"It is considered by some to have a greater potential for addiction than the amphetamines, and has been abused in many countries, for example Sweden. When stimulant abuse first became prevalent in Sweden in the 1950s, phenmetrazine was preferred to amphetamine and methamphetamine by addicts, as it was considered the superior drug."
"It tends not to increase heart rate as much as other stimulants.[1] Due to the relative lack of side-effects, one study found it well tolerated in children.[1]"
If anyone has an experience report to share I would greatly appreciate it. Erowid does not even have a section on it, which is bizarre. More euphoria than methamphetamine with less side-effects...
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# 2
2008-10-01, 14:09
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
wonder if it's prescribed in the US, my doc would give me that shit over a phone call. prescribed 120count/10mg IR dexamps a month atm
may acquire some in a few days and post about it if ppl are interested depending on its legality in california and me doing some prior research of course, wikipedia is meh but going off it i don't see how it's superior if it claims to have less euphoria.. like meth has any anyways really after the first few times :|
seems to me it speeds up your metabolism more efficiently though, and i love how it (apperantly) doesn't make your heart race
off to do some more research..
looks like something that would be best injected (not that everything else isn't too, but you know what i mean), i dunno about king of stimulants but it could be useful at times
Last edited by steel211; 2008-10-01 at 14:18.
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# 3
2008-10-01, 14:19
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
It does sound interesting and I'd like to know if anyone's given it a try.
Problem is, less side effects equals more of a risk for addiction (even retarded Wiki states that). Let's see how much you love it after you live and breathe the shit for a year or two  . |
# 4
2008-10-01, 14:34
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
It's only said to be less euphoric in a clinical setting. Recreational users found it more euphoric and sexual than meth.
Again, if anyone has any experience with this stuff I'd love to hear it.
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# 5
2008-10-02, 01:00
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Such a supposedly awesome drug deserves a bump!
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# 6
2008-10-02, 01:27
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
shhh! keep it on the downlow, LT is probly conducting a mass synth as we speak
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# 7
2008-10-02, 04:16
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Preludin is good shit indeed - it was the Beatles' and Elvis' choice of speed as opposed to Dylan's amphetamine.
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# 8
2008-10-02, 07:11
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
It no longer exists.
Everyone who took it is now dead or... not on totse.
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# 9
2008-10-02, 16:53
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Can't beat good ole alpha methylbenzeneethanamine
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# 10
2008-10-03, 01:33
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Quote:
Originally Posted by spinal_cord
Can't beat good ole alpha methylbenzeneethanamine
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Sure it can! What the hell is that by the way? Can you give a good link?
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# 11
2008-10-03, 01:50
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psilocybe
Sure it can! What the hell is that by the way? Can you give a good link?
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That's pretty subjective.
He's talkin bout meff, stupid.
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# 12
2008-10-03, 02:26
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Up yours, it's preferred over meth by addicts so it rapes it. That chemical name is bogus too.
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# 13
2008-10-03, 03:00
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psilocybe
Up yours, it's preferred over meth by addicts so it rapes it. That chemical name is bogus too.
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Fuck off.
How do you know it's any better then meth?
Some wiki article?
Did you copy and paste it into wikipedia too check by any chance?
Fact is it's not coming back for a while, get over it.
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# 14
2008-10-03, 03:02
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
It rapes meth like I rape your mom's ass!
Have you tried it? Didn't think so...
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# 15
2008-10-03, 06:11
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Preludin has been discussed on some other boards and older members there have found it preferable to meth in that it is equally euphoric but calmer and smoother, qualitatively similar to meth/amp+low dose oxycodone.
The N-methyl derivative, phendimetrazine, is a popular diet pill, brand names Obex, tenuate, etc. It can be purchased from some online pharmacies. The same folks from above mentioned that it was similar in potency.
And there's also some conjecture that 2-phenylmorpholine is centrally active (phenmetrazine=3-methyl-2-phenylmorpholine), it is also available through some online vendors.
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#16
2008-10-03, 17:18 |
spinal_cord 
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Sure it can! What the hell is that by the way? Can you give a good link?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine
Up yours, it's preferred over meth by addicts so it rapes it. That chemical name is bogus too.
The name amphetamine is derived from its chemical name: alpha- methylphenethylamine.
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#17
2008-10-03, 19:19 |
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
It's schedule 2, dumbasses.
But it looks quite easy to synth (if not buy as a homologue and demethylate). Will think of pathways on the way home today. :)
The N-methyl derivative, phendimetrazine, is a popular diet pill, brand names Obex, tenuate, etc. It can be purchased from some online pharmacies. The same folks from above mentioned that it was similar in potency.
Now what do we know about N-demethylation, kids? That's right, that it's easy! If somebody was really interested in trying this it wouldn't be too hard to buy some pyridine and some diet pills (only the phendimetrazine, that tenuate shit is useless and will likely be intercepted). Perhaps we'll be able to create that erowid section after all.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenuate
ummm... no, but it could be interesting if you removed the ketone (and if you could get past the schedule IV rating). Not too much work has been done on diethylamphetamine.
Is anybody else seeing how only secondary and primary amines in amphetamines are active?
And there's also some conjecture that 2-phenylmorpholine is centrally active (phenmetrazine=3-methyl-2-phenylmorpholine), it is also available through some online vendors.
But it's just a PEA! Link meh, plox.
EDIT2: I'm not in LT?  |
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2008-10-03, 21:08 |
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine
The name amphetamine is derived from its chemical name: alpha- methylphenethylamine.
He said "alpha methylbenzeneethanamine" you fucking retard.
And we have already been over this, it rapes amphetamines.
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#19
2008-10-03, 21:20 |
spinal_cord
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
He said "alpha methylbenzeneethanamine" you fucking retard.
And we have already been over this, it rapes amphetamines.
Lol noob, he was me
and i've already been over this amphetamine= alpha methylbenzeneethanamine i just wasnt paying attention and posted the wrong link.
reference: http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/chemicals/cn/Amphetamine.html
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#20
2008-10-03, 23:58 |
Tchort
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Re: Dextro-Phenmetrazine; King of Stimulants?
Preludin aka Bam is said to be the king of speed. I can only speak for one of its metabolites, which no one has mentioned.
Phendimetrazine, metabolite of Phenmetrazine and 1/3 as potent, is a Schedule III diet pill in the US.
Very powerful, more forceful feeling than D-Amphetamine. Less jittery nervousness, less teeth clenching and tongue + cheek biting. Very worthy substance.
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