Agnosticism

It's the only "religion" that has any logic behind it. How can one set of beliefs be any more or less genuine than any other, how can, say, a Buddhist be more or less correct than a Christian (just an example) Any way you look at it, to be part of an organized religion, or ANY religion one must truly believe they know the purpose behind our existence, how can anyone even imagine knowing such a thing?

I've asked religious friends this and they babble on about faith, etc. Wow, great argument. I have faith that a flying spaghetti monster created the universe, you guys wouldn't understand. Haha, illogical nonsense, such is organized religion

[kurdt318]

So what?

What does logic bring you? Will logic save you from death? Long after humans are gone, what will logic do for you then?

[TheMessiahComplex]

Never underestimate the power of self delusion.
Some people can convince themselves of pretty much anything with no real logic or reason behind it, despite any incontrovertible proof otherwise. And for those people, "I know I'm right because I know I'm right" is all they need.
Maybe it's a defense mechanism of sorts where if they thought any harder about something maybe their brain would implode in a vortex of cognitive dissonance and self doubt and no one wants to bring that on themselves.
I also want to throw in a disclaimer that I'm not generalizing and saying everyone that's devoutly religious does this. I'm just saying it probably happens sometimes.

[Obbe]

So you know logic is the best way?



I believe logic, order and the finite are born out of the illogical, chaotic infinite like constructive interference.

[ArmsMerchant]

Originally Posted by boostinkyboo

It's the only "religion" that has any logic behind it.

Incorrect. ALL the Abrahamic religions are logical--it is the basic premises which are, IMHO, invalid.

Of course, they are all mutually contradictory--which in no way invalidates the "logic."


Logic is greatly over-rated; intuition is greatly under-rated.

[KikoSanchez]

Originally Posted by boostinkyboo

I've asked religious friends this and they babble on about faith, etc. Wow, great argument. I have faith that a flying spaghetti monster created the universe, you guys wouldn't understand. Haha, illogical nonsense, such is organized religion

So I assume you're agnostic about the flying spaghetti monster as well?

agnosticism is a religion?

Originally Posted by boostinkyboo

I have faith that a flying spaghetti monster created the universe

Pastafarianism? :P

Religion is not innately about being right or wrong, or more correct or less correct than another. For the most part, religions are sets of guidelines for accessing and maintaining a relationship with a resource all humans possess, but many are cut off from due to self. Essentially, they are types of guides to cleaning away what blocks the human mind from being whole and free. Frankly, it's no surprise at all that a bunch of fucked up individuals ruled by fear, doubt, rage, and wrath fight over which path is the right one when they haven't even tried walking the one they profess. With assurance, those who follow these guide books passed from generation to generation welcome freely those who use another book...after all, they just had a different set of instructions to get to the same place. We're just glad to see more people show up instead of slaughter each other at the starting line.

Heck, for the fun of it, you can even follow one set of instructions, then another, and another, and another. You come to find out that they're all right, and anybody can pick whichever they feel most comfortable with to start. Seriously, it's an extremely simple system. It is often over complicated. Folks who have not even yet lived the instructions bicker about who is smarter, who is more righteous, who is more favored by a power they haven't even met yet. Had they met this power, they would know that it favors none and that each and every man is tailored to a specific task, none of which is more or less important than any other. Let me say: If you have yet to live a religion, you did not pick it...you were not indoctrinated. You were led to water and you refused to drink. Don't fret, the water's still there. Always will be. Which cup will you use to drink? Christianity? Buddhism? Taoism? Hinduism? Grecian/Roman? Mithraism? Judaism? Islam? You can even use your own hands if you're so rebelliously inclined...but they don't draw as much water.

[Chichi]

Agnostics are the diet coke of atheism.

You're fucking fence sitters. Just pick a side and follow it, you can say that you can't disprove the existence of God, but even then you're still going to Hell. According to them.

[PirateJoe]

Originally Posted by Chichi

Agnostics are the diet coke of atheism.

You're fucking fence sitters. Just pick a side and follow it, you can say that you can't disprove the existence of God, but even then you're still going to Hell. According to them.

Chichi, our missing link. Suck it creationists.

But seriously, I agree with Optimus Prime.

[Mack09]

Originally Posted by Chichi

Agnostics are the diet coke of atheism.

You're fucking fence sitters. Just pick a side and follow it, you can say that you can't disprove the existence of God, but even then you're still going to Hell. According to them.

Right, because you and all your infinite knowledge of ~30 years experience on earth can tell me the exact truth behind billions of years of existence.

[Big Steamers]

Originally Posted by Chichi

Just pick a side and follow it

I agree with that much. If one constantly pussyfoots through life, there is no way for that individual to make obvious mistakes. How can you learn if you do not recognize your faults?

[MarsCoban]

Originally Posted by Chichi

Agnostics are the diet coke of atheism.

You're fucking fence sitters. Just pick a side and follow it, you can say that you can't disprove the existence of God, but even then you're still going to Hell. According to them.

Sitting on the fence, presumambly raised above ground level, might give one a fuller view of what is happening on either side of the fence, so that one may see that all sides have their faults, and a perfectionist, and I assume most fence-sitters are perfectionists (or they simply don't care), may not want to join an imperfect thing, or a thing that cares.

[SockMan]

Originally Posted by Chichi

Agnostics are the diet coke of atheism.

You're fucking fence sitters. Just pick a side and follow it, you can say that you can't disprove the existence of God, but even then you're still going to Hell. According to them.

That's right, agnostics are pussies.