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Old 2008-09-29, 02:41
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I just found some 10mg zolpidem pills. Are these recreational at all? I've heard kids say they trip on them before, but I've never taken any. If I took some you think I'd be able to get up in like 6 hours? I have to go to court in the morning.
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Old 2008-09-29, 02:53
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I just found some 10mg zolpidem pills. Are these recreational at all? I've heard kids say they trip on them before, but I've never taken any. If I took some you think I'd be able to get up in like 6 hours? I have to go to court in the morning.


that was hilarious.

but yes, they are rec. under your circumstances, dont take them, as 6 hours probly wont be enough rest for somebody inexperienced with ambien.

how many pills did you find? i have a pretty high tolerance after 1 1/2 years of nightly use, but when i just started off 20mg was fine to get effects. i would definitly not reccommend exceding 30mg till your more experienced with it, as youd most likley end up puking.

amnesia is pretty common with ambien abuse, but it can be pretty fun. minor visuals, sedation, benzoish qualitys.

about the 10th time i ever abused them, i tried 50mg, and ended up with INTENSE OEVs, and moderate CEVs. only remember about 1-2 hours of the entire night though. (dont reccommend this high of a dose when you have no tolerance)



long story short:

20mg-good dose
30+mg-bad dose
dont take without having 10+ hours till you need to be awake for tommrow. (so you have time to enjoy the trip)
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:00
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I personally say don't bother, but kids I know (and sell too) love them to death.

If you do want to take it, only take a 10mg tab and smoke lots of weed with it. Thats the only way I've enjoyed them.

2 will give you some visual distortions. I don't enjoy the high much at 2 and the visual distortions for me is always things doubling, which is kind of cool but starts to fuck with my head when I see cars crashing into each other then realizing its the doubling going back into 1 object.

EDIT: Just read the guys post above me. 2 will give you more of a high but it's just my personal preference to only take 1. 1 gives me a nice drunk feeling for a while.

Really though they aren't that great, some people love them but I personally think it's because they haven't tried anything other than just weed.
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:01
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only time i ever got double vision on ambien is when i drank /w it.
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Old 2008-09-29, 03:32
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Just eat them all right before court, you can be like Tommy Chong in Up In Smoke.
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:03
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Ambien is not that bad of a drug, delusional thinking, mild CEV's, and just a general 'out of it WOW' feeling. I've just had to take an insane amount to get the 'effects' that you get with Ambien, so its not really worth it IMO

Usually 80mg+ parachuted will have me fucked up pretty nicely, but do not take that much.

Im guessing it has a cross tolerance with benzos, because I know dudes bigger then me who can take 20mg who get really fucked up off the shit. You will most likely blackout

Dose small, and since Ambien has a relativley short half-life you should be fine. Smoke some bud with it, it makes it more enjoyable.
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:29
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Im guessing it has a cross tolerance with benzos, because I know dudes bigger then me who can take 20mg who get really fucked up off the shit. You will most likely blackout

It definitely is cross-tolerant with benzos, and considering what I know of your regimen, well...;)
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:34
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i have done 100+ mg on a few occasions...
Smoke some weed, and you will be seriously
tripping.

You should be fine...
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:38
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ambien is interesting to do with sober people, that way they know what you said and did the next day...

Its not really psychedelic, but it will produce interesting visuals...

I told my sister she had like 2 heads and 6 eyes...

chronology will be thrown all to fuck...

careful with cigarettes, you will smoke until you puke...

have at least 10 hours to sleep...

10-20mg is a good starting point, expect amnesia...
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Old 2008-09-29, 05:55
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I'm prescribed. I really hate taking the stuff but some nights I just really need it to get to sleep. I do extremely irrational things on ambien. One night last week, I got the bright idea to walk to the grocery store at 3am, spend $20 on cough syrup and drink it all in the parking lot. I robotripped twice four years ago and the thought of doing it again has never crossed my mind.

So last night I took 20mg to get to sleep, and told myself that was it, I'm not taking any more, and I'm not leaving the house. An hour later I popped two more, shaved my pubes, then off to the grocery store again! No robo this time, but I spent $150 on groceries. Funny thing is I walked there, so I had to push the cart all the way home.

I remember doing all of this, I just have no idea what was running through my head. I would stop taking it, but I need it to sleep some nights, and I don't see the doctor for another month.

trippydeath - I also experienced the cars crashing into each other phenomena while walking to the grocery store, lol.
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Old 2008-09-29, 06:05
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Funny thing is I walked there, so I had to push the cart all the way home.
Lol @ waking up to a loaded fridge and shopping cart in the driveway.

Amnesia ftw.
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Old 2008-09-29, 07:09
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Consuming:

100+ something mg of ambien
2 Sparks energy drinks
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Half a bottle of ginko biloba and some other supplements

Results in...


Yodeling "yellow submarine" while in a bathtub full of water, with the shower steaming....
splashing around, thinking you are on a voyage, a captain of your ship....
throwing water out of the bathtub with a small pail because you think your boat is gaining water/sinking....
Shouting orders, to your crew, on top of your lungs....

Until you kind of snap back into reality and realize what you are doing, but then you go ahead and pop a few more and in no-time get distracted by your carpet, thinking you are god overlooking the surface of earth, plucking lint for an hour...

Yeh

Seriously, how can they fucking prescribe this shit to people...
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Old 2008-09-29, 19:25
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one thing to watch out for with Ambien is definitely the pronounced effect of amnesia. A friend of mine broke up with his girl over the phone after taking two, and didn't remember it at all until she called him back up the next day.
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Old 2008-09-29, 22:16
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My mom's perscribed these, so I snatched a few once. A 20mg dose didn't really do anything for me besides make me feel tired like it should. I did a really shitty trip report on it here

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2146200
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Old 2008-09-30, 03:21
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Ya if you take it make sure your with someone else whos not on it so they can tell you what happened the next day. Unfortunately my friends all had the urge to buy some from me and well did it last weekend. None of us totally remember the real order of events or where exactly everything happened.

I see kids do alot of stupid shit on it but I usually just get real chill and kick it.

Cigarettes are a must on it though because of the process of it all. Such a calming ritual.

Beware of random falling asleep. I've fallen asleep in the middle of the circle with my friends having to shake me so I could hit the bowl.

EDIT: Some of the things I remember from yesterday is, climbing under the gate of a gated neighborhood to walk around the block and leave. After that I had this urge to go to some forest I've only been to once in my life. I somehow find my way there with my sober friend because I had this image in my head it's some beautiful place to go and finish my trip. It's really a fucking swamp and I ended up ankle deep in mud, getting torn apart by sticker bushes. After that we find some other gated community and we proceed to try and find a way into the newly built townhomes. We were unsuccessful thankfully and after that I sobered up.

So ya, be expected to do stupid shit on it. Enjoy

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Old 2008-09-30, 06:30
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Amnesia gets bad if you take to many, just like benzos...and sometimes you will only take a few then wake up the next morning with an empty bottle, if that happens you have suffered from the "Benzo Induced Chronic Pill Popping" (yes, i know ambien isn't a benzo..but this scenario happens often while under the influence of benzos) You think you only took a few, but soon you are blacked out eating them like skittles...I used to be prescribed them and I abused them alot...Smoke alot of dank with around 20-30mg you'll be tripping...I one time saw the stars on my roof turn into and move around like a snake...Also one time i was zoned out in my bed looking at my hand and all my fingers turned into soldiers with helmets on standing in line...There is also a lot of double vision...You won't see things that aren't there, but if you zone out on a object it will morph into something else...You will also get some weird thinking...If im trying to go to sleep, sometimes i'll be talking to myself in my head or hearing voices...nothing too strong though, and its kind of impossible to really have a bad trip...don't take my word on it though, cuz one time i took to much and was trying to sleep but i kept talkin to people in my head (kinda bothersome when you need your rest)...There's no harm in taking them, its not too strong of a drug and you won't freak out or anything..its a pretty pleasent high actually...Happy Pill Popping
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Old 2008-09-30, 15:01
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I feel it is a very ghost-like drug. by means of "seeing" the people that arnt really there. Its really fucked up because if your with 2 other people you think your with 5!
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Old 2008-09-30, 19:28
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I could see it recreational but I don't find it very comfortable. Especially considering when I have taken it, I wanted sleep. So I guess the trick is to pass out before you start feeling out of it, lol.

Anyways, most of the visuals I had were open-eye. It's crazy what your mind can visualize when your in the dark and staring at a mirror. For me, wallpaper has the tendency to twirl a bit. (if there's something on the wallpaper, like a flower or some shit).

I mainly remember staring at a giant mirror next to the couch I was laying on. I was looking at the mirror and my reflection's mouth was moving really fast even though mine wasn't. Just weird shit like that mainly.

I have not taken more than 20 mg though.
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Old 2008-09-30, 20:52
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The natural state that I could most easily compare ambien is lucid dreaming. I've had instances of being able to "control" certain objects by concetrating on them and making them "float" while under the influence of ambien. Although I'm admittedly no expert in neuroscience, my theory is that you are essentially dreaming while you are awake while under the influence of ambien and like drugs, and that the hallucinations that come passing the "fifteen minutes awake" mark into the dreamlike ambien state is essentially the brain entering into a relaxed dream state while the body is still functioning.
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Old 2008-10-01, 05:49
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Consuming:

100+ something mg of ambien
2 Sparks energy drinks
and
Half a bottle of ginko biloba and some other supplements

Results in...


Yodeling "yellow submarine" while in a bathtub full of water, with the shower steaming....
splashing around, thinking you are on a voyage, a captain of your ship....
throwing water out of the bathtub with a small pail because you think your boat is gaining water/sinking....
Shouting orders, to your crew, on top of your lungs....

Until you kind of snap back into reality and realize what you are doing, but then you go ahead and pop a few more and in no-time get distracted by your carpet, thinking you are god overlooking the surface of earth, plucking lint for an hour...

Yeh

Seriously, how can they fucking prescribe this shit to people...
Cause most people dont take 100 mg at a time, and get (or think theyre getting) the sleep they want from just 10 mg. And those of us that like more Ambien for other reasons are not gonna cause problems for the pharm companies most of the time. I know what you mean though its fucked up for a "sleeping pill" to fuck with your mind to the extend of almost a hallucinogen. At least it sedates you while you trip and you can tend to forget some or all of the trip.

Taking this shit back in HS senior year I was taking notes on Hamlet. I look at my notes the next day an it gets more an more illegible till finally I write that "he gets the moonjuice" ( I think I was talkign about when someone pours something in Hamlet's father's ear an poisons him?). But yeah I was fucked for that English test, an the Dexedrine I was on at the time was of no help whatsoever an only made me understand more as to how fucked I was on the test.
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Old 2008-10-01, 07:03
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ambien is fucking insane, the only time i managed to stay up long enough to trip was when I took it with meth though. take a strong upper unless your good at staying awake when your exhausted (i'm definitely fucking not). In retrospect I don't know why it wasn't terrifying (little people climbing a pole nxt to my keyboard as I wondered what the fuck was going on, seeing myself with a pyramid shaped chest in the mirror, watching the tiny green aphids crawl all over my skin) but your just so confused that you can enjoy the random world around you rather then be scared.
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Old 2008-10-01, 20:26
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ambien is fucking insane, the only time i managed to stay up long enough to trip was when I took it with meth though. take a strong upper unless your good at staying awake when your exhausted (i'm definitely fucking not). In retrospect I don't know why it wasn't terrifying (little people climbing a pole nxt to my keyboard as I wondered what the fuck was going on, seeing myself with a pyramid shaped chest in the mirror, watching the tiny green aphids crawl all over my skin) but your just so confused that you can enjoy the random world around you rather then be scared.
i think ambien kind of acts like a benzo and depresses your nervous system...So your free of bad anxiety while trippin..awesome
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Old 2008-10-01, 20:28
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Ambien is not recreational. Fucking kids these days.
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Old 2008-10-01, 23:10
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Ambien is not recreational. Fucking kids these days.
Ambien is recreational; pop 80mgs then come back to me and say that it isnt sn

It is just as recreational as DXM or diphen, just alot more pleasent IMO; Now would it be my first drug of choice? Absolutley not. But there is definatley recreational qualities associated with it.

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Old 2008-10-02, 06:03
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It is just as recreational as DXM or diphen
Exactly my point.
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Old 2008-10-03, 00:29
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Exactly my point.

So you can honestly tell me that DXM nor diphen has any recreational effects? What is your defination of 'recreational' then Sn?
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Old 2008-10-03, 00:53
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Ambien is not recreational. Fucking kids these days.
ehh ambien, obviously not the greatest dug by any means, could be considered rec. IMO at least. id choose pretty much anything over it, including DXM, but still.

it does have some mild euphoria, semi-benzolike qualitys, visuals (in certain cases).

and lets not forget its use as a sleep aid! ooooh boy

but like i said before, id choose pretty much anything over it. only reason ive abused it is because ive got a script for actual insomnia. this defintly isnt a drug worth faking a condition over, although it is pretty easy to do.
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Old 2008-10-03, 17:27
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So I ended up parachuting 10mg, waited a couple hours to feel something, then passed out in my room with my lights on and the TV blaring. No visuals, euphoria, or amnesia at this dose, just makes it really easy to pass out. Maybe next time I'll try 20 or 30mg and take it earlier in the day.
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Old 2008-10-03, 19:16
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So I ended up parachuting 10mg, waited a couple hours to feel something, then passed out in my room with my lights on and the TV blaring. No visuals, euphoria, or amnesia at this dose, just makes it really easy to pass out. Maybe next time I'll try 20 or 30mg and take it earlier in the day.


10mg is a standard sleeping dose for Ambien.

You shouldnt expect anything else besides sedation and sleep
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Old 2008-10-03, 19:20
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10mg is a standard sleeping dose for Ambien.

You shouldnt expect anything else besides sedation and sleep

Snort it, Snoooort!

The onset is very quick (though it burns like a bitch) and you get to note the shift in perception when you snort it.

Seriously, crush up those 10mg and give it a whirl! :D
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Old 2008-10-04, 01:18
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Snort it, Snoooort!

The onset is very quick (though it burns like a bitch) and you get to note the shift in perception when you snort it.

Seriously, crush up those 10mg and give it a whirl! :D

i would soooooo not reccommend this.

not sure if its just me, some crappy binders in the pills, or what, but every time iv tried snorting ambien (5 or so) it feels like its expanding in my nasal cavity. hard to explain.
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