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 #1 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:30
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I have 2 main people I smoke with, my two closest friends, known them since forever.

1. D - He is the guy that does drugs just to "get fuckz0rd" and nothing more. He doesn't really research much and falls for drug myths very easily. He likes to party and is much more prone to addiction than M or me. Also provides the notorious plauge of saying "I'm so fucked up!/ I'm tripping balls!/ I'm drunk as shit!" every two FUCKING minutes.

2.M - He is smart, and more on my level, shares my 'vibe' I guess you could say. When I use any substance with him it usually spurs a much more meaningful experience, and provokes deep conversation. He has the tendency to say strange "trippy" ideas when he is high, and likes to talk about more profound subject matter than D and his other friends, this bothers D.


This situation popped out ALOT in an early morning smoking session.
People Smoking:
Me
D
M
M2 (kinda a personality mix between D & M, somewhat closed minded)
G (girl, don't know her very well, did grow up with her though)

Here is some dialouges that stood out, first M and I were talking about how that perspective shifts that cannabis causes are often times setting and mindset dependent, revealing its psychedelic nature. D, M2, and G started laughing at us saying "wtf are they talking about wooowwwww" and shit.

Another time D straight up said "See, this is why I leave those fuckers at home (referring to M and I being different I guess)" following us making some strange, but not thoughtless statements.

Throughout the morning they just seemed to not be able to comprehend what we were talking about and equated it with us not making sense/ being crazy.

So are M and I being buzzkills and taking the session places we shouldn't, or do they need to open there eyes and stop being such D-bags?

I don't mean to sound like an elitist, but I can't help but look down on people that act like them.
 #2 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:36
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

your other friends sound like typical drugs2bkool highschoolers
 #3 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:36
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

A buzz-killer all depends on the person.

In my opinion the two of you that actually have meaningful and enlightening conversation while you're drugging are being hindered by one of the people that just says "OMFG I'm so wasted I bet Im alot more fucked up than you!!"

I have a few friends like that and I can't stand getting fucked up with them. I prefer people who know the substance and are able to use them intelligently.

However, I'm sure the two of you are buzz-kills to D in some way or another. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
 #4 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:40
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noone/nothing can seem to ever kill my buzz. A buz kill to me is non existent. Thank god I don't let assholes kill my buzz LOL!
 #5 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:41
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

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Originally Posted by Before the Opiate
A buzz-killer all depends on the person.

In my opinion the two of you that actually have meaningful and enlightening conversation while you're drugging are being hindered by one of the people that just says "OMFG I'm so wasted I bet Im alot more fucked up than you!!"

I have a few friends like that and I can't stand getting fucked up with them. I prefer people who know the substance and are able to use them intelligently.

However, I'm sure the two of you are buzz-kills to D in some way or another. It's all in the eye of the beholder.


That is a good point, I am sure in his POV me and M just look like snobby psuedo-intellectual faggots.

I can understand him not liking this behavior when we're drunk at a party or in a similar setting, but smoking a bowl at the end of the sunrise at 7 in the morning with a slight breeze and amazingly refreshing feeling from showering and having breakfast, that makes me feel so content and mellowed out. I don't see how D acts the same in almost all situations.
 #6 
Old 2008-09-27, 04:43
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That is a good point, I am sure in his POV me and M just look like snobby psuedo-intellectual faggots.

I can understand him not liking this behavior when we're drunk at a party or in a similar setting, but smoking a bowl at the end of the sunrise at 7 in the morning with a slight breeze and amazingly refreshing feeling from showering and having breakfast, that makes me feel so content and mellowed out. I don't see how D acts the same in almost all situations.

I understand what you mean. Some people just kind of "over enjoy" themselves thinking that being fucked up is just a time to act a fool just to have fun. To people like us discussion and relaxation are our idea of fun while we drug.

We also understand that knowledge is indeed power.
 #7 
Old 2008-09-27, 05:09
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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I didnt read your post, but judging from your title the biggest buzz kill of all-time has to be the pigs.

Nothing like having a great time with your buddies only to get fucking shitted on by local pd
 #8 
Old 2008-09-27, 05:19
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

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Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
I didnt read your post, but judging from your title the biggest buzz kill of all-time has to be the pigs.

Nothing like having a great time with your buddies only to get fucking shitted on by local pd


Should probably just read it then,.
 #9 
Old 2008-09-27, 12:59
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Bump.

Lets see some more replies, I thought it would an interesting discussion.
 #10 
Old 2008-09-27, 16:22
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I sort of jump between the two. It just depends what stage of the high we are all in, we talk a lot of crap and laugh at a lot of stupid shit but have some preety enlightning convos when we can manage to listen long enough.

- ♫.i.b.y.v.n.t.h.♫
 #11 
Old 2008-09-27, 18:03
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

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Originally Posted by ibetyouvotenexttimehippy
I sort of jump between the two. It just depends what stage of the high we are all in, we talk a lot of crap and laugh at a lot of stupid shit but have some preety enlightning convos when we can manage to listen long enough.

- ♫.i.b.y.v.n.t.h.♫



This..

It depends on the crowd too, I am not gonna whip out the philisophical shit in front of anyone I know doesn't understand it/wanna hear it unless (which actually happens alot) they ask.

it is nice on shrooms though, even my most belligerent buddies will shut up and listen.
 #12 
Old 2008-09-27, 18:33
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When I'm high I love to discuss the deep thoughts I get. I don't really like when people around me seem to just be getting high because its cool, or fun. Though, I like most, do have fun getting high, I see it as more than that. It is a relaxing, mind expanding experience. So if someone has a problem with you opening up your mind they have no business smoking weed.
 #13 
Old 2008-09-27, 19:19
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Bay Area, Ca
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Nothing is more of a buzzkill to me then having to trip sit people who are freaking out.

Blowing my god damn high because they can't handle their own damn thoughts.

They're driving me to drink, I tell you.

On topic? My vote goes for D.
 #14 
Old 2008-09-27, 20:30
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Nothing pisses me off more than people who won't stop talking about their deep thinking, in depth, philosophical bullshit when they're stoned.

DON'T GET ME WRONG - this talk is appropriate at most times - just some people take it way to far in a vain effort to sound like a more complex minded person.

Just smoke and do/say what comes naturally. If you and your buddy naturally have in depth, interesting conversations - then go for it. Leave the ones who aren't on par behind.
 #15 
Old 2008-09-27, 22:32
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- Kill everyone but "M"

- Eat thumbprints

^^ this is the path to success.

I don't mean to sound like an elitist, but I can't help but look down on people that act like them.

You're not elitist enough to contemplate murdering people for being idiots. As you may notice, that's just lopping a few words off from saying "you're not elitist enough."

See?
 #16 
Old 2008-09-27, 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeLowLife
Nothing is more of a buzzkill to me then having to trip sit people who are freaking out.

Blowing my god damn high because they can't handle their own damn thoughts.

They're driving me to drink, I tell you.

On topic? My vote goes for D.


Isn't that the point of trip sitting? To make sure everything is alright in the "real world" and to be there if they begin to psychologically freak out?

Just handling your thoughts isn't exactly all it takes either. Go ahead and chomp down on some Datura and tell just how well you "control" them.
 #17 
Old 2008-09-27, 23:07
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Somewhere in the known cosmos
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Of course you and M are the biggest buzz killers. Can't you two understand drugz is just for getting fucked up mang? All drugs are the same some just fuck you up more then others. Shrooms for instance make your brain bleed blood on your spine and make you half dead which is why you trip and see shit. Klonopin is prescribed as a painkiller, nobody try and disprove this, my friend is a drug dealer, he sells that shit all the time so he would know. Also percocet is completely different then oxycontin, if it was the same thing, why would it have a different name. You wanna be smart people drug takers are the biggest buzz killers of all time. Can't you just use your substance, shut the fuck up, or talk about how fucked up your are/how much you hate police/MTV. kthxbai.
 #18 
Old 2008-09-27, 23:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w_s_t
I have 2 main people I smoke with, my two closest friends, known them since forever.

1. D - He is the guy that does drugs just to "get fuckz0rd" and nothing more. He doesn't really research much and falls for drug myths very easily. He likes to party and is much more prone to addiction than M or me. Also provides the notorious plauge of saying "I'm so fucked up!/ I'm tripping balls!/ I'm drunk as shit!" every two FUCKING minutes.

2.M - He is smart, and more on my level, shares my 'vibe' I guess you could say. When I use any substance with him it usually spurs a much more meaningful experience, and provokes deep conversation. He has the tendency to say strange "trippy" ideas when he is high, and likes to talk about more profound subject matter than D and his other friends, this bothers D.


This situation popped out ALOT in an early morning smoking session.
People Smoking:
Me
D
M
M2 (kinda a personality mix between D & M, somewhat closed minded)
G (girl, don't know her very well, did grow up with her though)

Here is some dialouges that stood out, first M and I were talking about how that perspective shifts that cannabis causes are often times setting and mindset dependent, revealing its psychedelic nature. D, M2, and G started laughing at us saying "wtf are they talking about wooowwwww" and shit.

Another time D straight up said "See, this is why I leave those fuckers at home (referring to M and I being different I guess)" following us making some strange, but not thoughtless statements.

Throughout the morning they just seemed to not be able to comprehend what we were talking about and equated it with us not making sense/ being crazy.

So are M and I being buzzkills and taking the session places we shouldn't, or do they need to open there eyes and stop being such D-bags?

I don't mean to sound like an elitist, but I can't help but look down on people that act like them.




nice post to help build the ego drugs are meant to cause you to "lose".
 #19 
Old 2008-09-28, 00:28
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Depends on whether you're a D or an M kind of person. Me, personally, I am an M kind of person but do enjoy the company of D's as well. I'd consider my friends that are like D drinking/smoking buddies only, and my friends like M would be considered good friends of mine.


e: i think everyone is made up of D's and M's, you just gotta know who it's safe to release the M side around. it can be overwhelming to D's.
 #20 
Old 2008-09-28, 02:39
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Bay Area, Ca
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Isn't that the point of trip sitting? To make sure everything is alright in the "real world" and to be there if they begin to psychologically freak out?

Just handling your thoughts isn't exactly all it takes either. Go ahead and chomp down on some Datura and tell just how well you "control" them.

I didn't mean tripsit as in I go over there sober and watch them take drugs and make sure they don't do anything stupid. I mean were both tripping and then I am forced to trip sit them because they are freaking out and insist on doing something stupid.

No thanks on the datura, psychotics are never fun.
 #21 
Old 2008-09-28, 03:47
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Like you said, they just use drugs to get fucked up and don't really respect what kind of things they can do to you aside from making you 'feel good'.

I would associate myself a little less with D, and more so with M. After all, it sounds like you're better friends with M anyway and have more in common with him. And if you don't really want to stop associating with him, then at the very least I would stop doing drugs with him as much. Maybe keep getting stoned with him, but I wouldn't do anything aside from that (psychedelics, for example.)
 #22 
Old 2008-09-28, 04:18
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BC Canada
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I like to think i'm a little mixture of the two, but i know that i'm more of the guy that likes to get fucked up. Still, it seems that if you do drugs to get fucked up and you just dick around havin' fun, it's inevitable that you'll end up having some "philosophical" conversations. The catch is that they prolly only seem philosophical at the time (especially with psychedelics). I mean, i've taken acid once, and it was to get messed up and experiment, but i ended up learning alot about myself. The mood can change pretty quickly.
 #23 
Old 2008-09-28, 06:15
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I didn't mean tripsit as in I go over there sober and watch them take drugs and make sure they don't do anything stupid. I mean were both tripping and then I am forced to trip sit them because they are freaking out and insist on doing something stupid.

No thanks on the datura, psychotics are never fun.

Oooh, being the more solid tripper of the two..I see now. My bad :). That really is a buzzkill but what are friends for?
 #24 
Old 2008-09-28, 06:23
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Facedown in the shag rug.
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I can't follow all that shit, but I'm pretty sure Suzie has herpes.

Buzz-kills are subjective, man. The biggest buzz-kill is the one that you're beating silly while you're fucked up.
 #25 
Old 2008-09-28, 07:51
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Gotta say people that smoke to get fucked up are less fun to smoke or do most drugs with. The only drug, of those I have/would do that I consider serves no other purpose other then being wasted, is alcohol, though I have had interesting conversations while drunk. I have one friend that's a hybrid of being intellectual and getting fucked up, which is interesting. Two of my friends are pretty in the conversational category but don't smoke that often. When I smoke with my most frequently smoky group of friends we sometimes get on cool topics and I share some philosophy or science with them and they get really into it, but its not a normal topic. I'd say my favorite though is some good tunes and a nice chill, although conversation and philosophy type stuff is a very close second. Now that I come to think of it, the biggest most painful buzzkill to me, is bad music.
 #26 
Old 2008-09-28, 15:07
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Vulgaria
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Sounds like yourself and M just do drugs for completly different reasons.

For me the biggest buzz kill is having to do physical stuff when I'm completly fucked. I just like to chillax and listen to music, watch TV, play video games and post on totse. I can remember before I was in the kitchen getting munchies when my father came in and made me empty the dish washer, that was horrible.
 #27 
Old 2008-09-28, 15:47
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Now that I come to think of it, the biggest most painful buzzkill to me, is bad music.
YES
Now that I come to think of it, the biggest most painful buzzkill to me, is bad music.
YES
Now that I come to think of it, the biggest most painful buzzkill to me, is bad music.
YES
Now that I come to think of it, the biggest most painful buzzkill to me, is bad music.
YES!!!!!

I am never smoking AGAIN with nigger music playing. Some of D's lady friends insisted on playing that Lil Wayne style main stream hip hop and I just about strangled them, and I am never violent when high. I put on a local station that must be made for people blazing because they play the BEST fucking music. Like chill electronic rock (incubus, minus the bear) and reggea and underground hiphop, also some weird tribal psychedelic shit occasionaly, but the bitched wouldn't stop complaining about the weird music.

Killed my buzz LITERALLY. I just didn't care that I was high it put in such a bad mood.
 #28 
Old 2008-09-28, 15:49
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Bay Area, Ca
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Oooh, being the more solid tripper of the two..I see now. My bad :). That really is a buzzkill but what are friends for?

Great point.

YES

Some of D's lady friends insisted on playing that Lil Wayne style main stream hip hop and I just about strangled them,

Why are you associating with thirteen year old black girls?
 #29 
Old 2008-09-28, 15:53
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Great point.



Why are you associating with thirteen year old black girls?

They were 17-18 year old white girls. One is a gremlin faced whore (not tila tequila lol). And the other is a taller mega-burnout whore. Both blondes, with annoying ass voices.

I forgot to add another thing about the 'D' type people:

D in particular is so fucking lazy when he's high, he lays there and asks everyone to get everything for him, usually me. "I want water, dude get me a glass pleeeassee" "Yo get me the cheezitz fuuuckkkk"
 #30 
Old 2008-09-28, 16:04
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Bay Area, Ca
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They were 17-18 year old white girls. One is a gremlin faced whore (not tila tequila lol). And the other is a taller mega-burnout whore. Both blondes, with annoying ass voices.



Are you writing a book on mythology? Why else would you be kicking it with whorish blonde trolls with horrible taste in music? If your going to hang out with girls like that then the only sound should be the sweet serenade of your balls, smacking ever so gently against their plump, cellulite ass. Ya dig?



I forgot to add another thing about the 'D' type people:

D in particular is so fucking lazy when he's high, he lays there and asks everyone to get everything for him, usually me. "I want water, dude get me a glass pleeeassee" "Yo get me the cheezitz fuuuckkkk"

Me and my friends have a system. Your on your own if everyone else is sitting down. However once and if you stand up, it's fair game to be asked for a beer or what not by those still sitting. It usually ends with many stoned people, plotting and scheming their orders on my couch only to forget them once someone actually stands up.
 #31 
Old 2008-09-28, 16:42
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We work on the system of if you're up you have to get it and whatever anyone else wants. If no one is standing up it just sort of goes around the circle. Ends up with 4 ripped guys sitting in a circle holding their crotch because they don't want to go to the toilet. That would involve standing up.

- ♫.i.b.y.v.n.t.h.♫
 #32 
Old 2008-09-28, 17:16
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A buzz-kill for me is when im smoking with people than after say "You guys made me walk through town totally high with a fucked up calf!!", than later tell me they didn't get high, as they state they are still "trippin" from smoking a blunt 11 hours earlier..I also hate people who think they are high, when it's obvious they aren't, And people who don't even think, and can't just be normal. If youre not high, don't say you are. I don't want to hear "Dude im so fucked up!!!"
 #33 
Old 2008-09-29, 08:40
k4aic k4aic is offline
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hah getting in a car wreck after scoring and getting high...yeup..buzz kill...i feel for the dude who was on the other end of my rants and cussing that night...cops were cool tho...i hid my shit in the trunk (luckily was the dudes fault) so they didnt spend time on me too much but to get my info...

and getting calls from towing companys after some idiot drives drunk and they call you to get the shit outta THEIR cars...

cops r def a buzzkill cant think of a worse one...
 #34 
Old 2008-09-29, 18:19
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Me and my friends have a system. Your on your own if everyone else is sitting down. However once and if you stand up, it's fair game to be asked for a beer or what not by those still sitting. It usually ends with many stoned people, plotting and scheming their orders on my couch only to forget them once someone actually stands up.

Depending on the company this rule is implemented with our group too. There are certain people I chill with however that do shit for themselves. I'm one of them. I don't generally give a shit about getting up even if I'm stoned out of my gourd and tend to get shit myself if no one else is up and around. Never been a big problem for me.
 #35 
Old 2008-09-29, 18:45
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Vulgaria
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

come to think of it, it seems both you and all your friends are wankers i wouldnt want to smoke with
 #36 
Old 2008-09-29, 19:47
ego-twitcher ego-twitcher is offline
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Its in the eye of the beholder.
 #37 
Old 2008-09-29, 21:45
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

I don't want to hear "Dude im so fucked up!!!"
 #38 
Old 2008-09-30, 02:33
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Updates!

I was explaining to D that him wanting to eat mushies and absolutley refusing to drop cid was really weird.

"At least with mushrooms I don't crack my back and get flashbacks"

"would I really want to eat something called acid"
 #39 
Old 2008-09-30, 03:44
MongolianThroatCancer MongolianThroatCancer is offline
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i think the worst ones are the people like D that try to be like M. the never stop because they think they're saying something profound when they are just mumbling some nonsense with the occasional SAT vocab word thrown in.
 #40 
Old 2008-09-30, 03:49
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MongolianThroatCancer
i think the worst ones are the people like D that try to be like M. the never stop because they think they're saying something profound when they are just mumbling some nonsense with the occasional SAT vocab word thrown in.


Lmao D tryed that once at my cabin, but it was too positive of a location for it to ruin anything.

He decided that the lake records all sounds during the day and plays them backwards at night. It was frogs. Normally this would be funny stoned talk but he wouldn't shut up about it.
 #41 
Old 2008-09-30, 03:54
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mah compound
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Quote:
Originally Posted by w_s_t
Updates!

I was explaining to D that him wanting to eat mushies and absolutley refusing to drop cid was really weird.

"At least with mushrooms I don't crack my back and get flashbacks"

"would I really want to eat something called acid"

You know what you must do. Secretly dose him.
 #42 
Old 2008-09-30, 04:03
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

You know what you must do. Secretly dose him.

Muhaha.

I don't really care that he doesn't want to though, its the double standard ignorance that bothers me.

I will probably end up making excuses not to trip on shrooms with him though, I hear that it has a "darker" more introspective nature to it than other psychs and I'm not sure if I'd like to be with him like that. When I explain things like this to him he blows it off, so I don't think he's ready.
 #43 
Old 2008-09-30, 04:12
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Smoke a shermstick with him...then go to the mall.
 #44 
Old 2008-09-30, 04:29
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mah compound
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Muhaha.

I don't really care that he doesn't want to though, its the double standard ignorance that bothers me.

I will probably end up making excuses not to trip on shrooms with him though, I hear that it has a "darker" more introspective nature to it than other psychs and I'm not sure if I'd like to be with him like that. When I explain things like this to him he blows it off, so I don't think he's ready.
Secretly dose him with ten good potent hits shortly before you leave him stranded in the worst part of your city.

Of drop some on his mushrooms and then leave.
 #45 
Old 2008-09-30, 04:50
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Brooklyn Park MN
Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Secretly dose him with ten good potent hits shortly before you leave him stranded in the worst part of your city.

Of drop some on his mushrooms and then leave.

I know! I'll drop him the 10 hits, then handcuff him inside of a mass transit bus. He hates niggers, thatd be like hell for him.

Oh wait I forgot that I wasn't supposed to torture to prove this point.
 #46 
Old 2008-09-30, 05:36
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Default Re: Who is more of a buzz-kill?

Is no one listening to me?

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