grow a few in a grow box like they do with pot, tgo will have some great creative ways to grow opium, i read up a while back and apperently black tar is extremely easy to make, some new zealand synth ill find it later

cant find the black tar one im getting silly messages on the rhodium, heres a step by step for normal h http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

also if you dont want to grow poppies there was a great thread in lab tips about turning codeine into hydrocodeine which is as strong as H, all you need is codeine (8 bucks for a gram in my town from a pharmacy) and some platinum from a cat converter off a car, its more complex but its somethin to think about

and finally props to you if you think your man enough to pull of this one, 100 times more stronger then H is good enough incentive for budding cooks who have a bit of money and knowledge behind them
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/fentanyl.html

your final yeild will be very small, your best bet if your hypothetically considering growing the poppies is to refine your opium a bit and keep that as your final product..

The numbering system used for heroin is fucking retarded.

your trees need light so make sure the woods don't block it.
poppies can be grown in a garden area that looks like a non-druggy garden without a problem.
my housing complex is starting a community garden, i'm planting poppy.


its stupid for you to talk about grow operations in hopes of making h. please realize that.


as for the cops reading, he's talking about someone he met a long time ago and its hypothetical. and that picture of his land is a ms paint sketch...not a photo.

Start with trying to get to clean opium, I have a friend who has yielded ~2g from about 40 pods, but has plenty more drying from this year. :) If you can then clean it out into pureish morphine, consider heading to hydromorphone if you can't find ethanoic anhydride.

I know where to get 500ml of acetic anhydride should anyone ever want to try to turn morphine into H....

Meta offering sources?!

what do you plan to do about police/DEA helicopters that probably patrol for marijuana crops?
paranoid motherfucker.

They dont patrol that often. I was watching an episode of DEA where they talked about how theyd love to just fly whereever they could and check for growhouses. But its way to expensive. They use it when their well into an investigation. And they need a warrant.

And its for Marijuana,not poppies

Did you seriously just say that? What in the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously? How the hell can you say that? I am simply amazed at how fucked up this is. A prime example of using the board to organize criminal activity.


I suggest you edit that, and this post here.

Were you really really fucked up on something? If anyone knows better than this shit, it ought to be you.

Did you seriously just say that? What in the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously? How the hell can you say that? I am simply amazed at how fucked up this is. A prime example of using the board to organize criminal activity.


I suggest you edit that, and this post here.

Were you really really fucked up on something? If anyone knows better than this shit, it ought to be you.

Maybe he was just joking, but I doubt it. =z

Meta



wat

I hope that's a joke..because I've actually defended you when people run their mouths. I think you're a bit on the unfair side with the rules and take them too far sometimes but generally tend to keep shit in line real well. I DO however think you're a druggie on a power trip because you don't get respect in the real world. You overstep the rules and act like you're fucking always right. Fact is you rarely are.

That being said, you'll probably try to say some BS like "I didn't GIVE the source!" BUT if one of us said that exact same thing you'd once again be a bitch about things.


Hypocrisy? From meta?? Gasp!

1. grow poppies
2. when they mature bleed the opium, collect and dry
3. extract, filter and putify the morphine content
4. acetic acid blah blah blah
5. ???
6. PROFIT

obviously not gonna lay it out for ya in detail but that's basically it , google here and there and you can figure it out.

You all crack me up - especially you SN.

Did I say I would sell some to anyone?

Did I say I would say where to get it?

Did I say I even had it?

No.

I simply said I know where to get it for those interested in making heroin. People not interested in making heroin wouldn't be interested in it - ok, maybe if they were tanning leather, perhaps. But not likely to find someone like that in a drug forum.

This is sketchy, I would inquire for amusement but I don't trust you like I did say...months ago, maybe years ago, probably months ago.

Dude...

I know where to get 500ml of acetic anhydride should anyone ever want to try to turn morphine into H....

You know where to get it should anyone ever want to try to turn morphine into H.

What the fuck? You're directly stating that you know how to get it and then implying that you shall USE that info to assist someone in doing this and that.

The main reason that got to me is because (as I stated) you know god damn well that'd be grounds for a bitch fest from you to the poster.

This is sketchy, I would inquire for amusement but I don't trust you like I did say...months ago, maybe years ago, probably months ago.


Did I say I wanted inquires?

No.

Did I ask anyone to even contact me about it?

No.



Dude...



You know where to get it should anyone ever want to try to turn morphine into H.

What the fuck? You're directly stating that you know how to get it and then implying that you shall USE that info to assist someone in doing this and that.

The main reason that got to me is because (as I stated) you know god damn well that'd be grounds for a bitch fest from you to the poster.


You're right. I do know where to get it .

But I implied nothing. You - and many others - made [I]assumptions based on what you want to think I said.

And yes, I would infract - or at least warn - anyone else who said what I did.

The key difference is not that I am a mod - though of course that is part of it. The main difference is that when anyone else says something like this, I have no way to know what their intentions are in posting it [unless, that is, they email me or talk to me on IRC first and tell me]. With me, I know what my intentions are.

I swear, some of you are like a bunch of little old ladies, you know that? I have been modding this forum longer than all of you have even been coming here and if there is any one person who knows what can and can't be posted here is me [In fact, I would say that only Acidmelt would know more as he was mod here when I joined].

This is all based purely on fiction; I would just like to see what the odds are of taking what I've got and making a lot of money. In reality, I really wouldn't take the massive risk of doing any of this, and that's the truth. I may speak in first person about doing it, but it's so much easier to do so. I just want to say first and foremost, I don't plan on turning my farm into a poppy plantation and making a heroin manufacturing place. I've got too much that I would lose to do so. With that said;

All I want to know and have is the resources of how one would grow poppy, turn it into morphine and into heroin etc. All the information I can possibly get, from growing poppy to making heroin I'd like. Thanks. I really know NOTHING about any of this; I do some H every now and then; I don't make a habit of it, but I definitely know nothing about the manufacture of it. That's what I want to know.


No need to tell meta what he can and can't post; it's pointless and he knows what he's doing. So, if at all possible, back on topic.

dja ever think there might be a reason why poppies are grown in countries with corrupt/little law?

you might get away with it for a while, eventually, sooner then later, you will be caught. abandon all hope.

Read post above.

Read post above.

''no''

and finally props to you if you think your man enough to pull of this one, 100 times more stronger then H is good enough incentive for budding cooks who have a bit of money and knowledge behind them
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/fentanyl.html

Except that it's not euphoric at all. That's honestly the only thing that prevents fent from being a large part of clandestine chem. It's too bad really, we need another class of chemically distinct compounds. :(

Also, who needs AA when you have google?
http://www.google.com/search?q=phenol+acetylation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Except that it's not euphoric at all. That's honestly the only thing that prevents fent from being a large part of clandestine chem. It's too bad really, we need another class of chemically distinct compounds. :(

Also, who needs AA when you have google?
http://www.google.com/search?q=phenol+acetylation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Fent does have some euphoria. It's much more pain killer/sedative but I do get the warm fuzzies.

Am I the only person who wasnt taking metas "source offering" seriously when I posted? Saying he knows a source is not the same as actually giving it away.

Lol Trolled by meta!

The main difference is that when anyone else says something like this, I have no way to know what their intentions are in posting it [unless, that is, they email me or talk to me on IRC first and tell me].

Yes because it's not possible for someone to lie

So if i were to email you to ask if i may post what you said and you allowed me too under the impression you know my intentions were sound, how do you intend to make sure i don't answer an inquiries anyway?

With me, I know what my intentions are.

Should we believe your intentions were merely to compare dicksize with everyone else?

Honestly that's the only point i can see in posting what you did, if not to offer sources.

I swear, some of you are like a bunch of little old ladies, you know that?

Yes, shutup i like knitting.

From Codeine to Heroin aka the "New Zealand synth"

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/codeine.homebake.labs.html

http://panthrax.host.sk/heroin_make.html

Yes because it's not possible for someone to lie

So if i were to email you to ask if i may post what you said and you allowed me too under the impression you know my intentions were sound, how do you intend to make sure i don't answer an inquiries anyway?

I never said it would be that simple. I would have to talk with you to the point I was convinced enough that you were indeed joking about it.

Granted you could do a good enough job to fool me. But then if you really want to put out that much effort and energy into fooling me so you can totally expose yourself to being busted by offering to sell or facilitate the sale of something that illegal, then by all means go for it. It really is no skin off my dick.



Should we believe your intentions were merely to compare dicksize with everyone else?

I don't give a damn what you think my intentions are.

Honestly that's the only point i can see in posting what you did, if not to offer sources.

It's not my fault you haven't as much creative thinking going on in your head as I do then.

you haven't as much creative thinking going on in your head as I do then.

.....lol..... Ok then Meta.

it takes a little more than mixing some shit and bam there's useable heroin for ya...


i mean if hypothetically you started growing poppies tomorrow, you still have 4 months to find the majority of the shit you need. its not like you can't store the sap anyway..

About the time, he's not worried about anything in the short term. ( He's my friend ) Anyways, he knows a pretty good deal about chemistry, he's got a nice lab etc and he doesn't care that he's not gonna have it tomorrow because he doesn't really plan on doing it. He just wants the information to see if it was feasible.

I would say that only Acidmelt would know more as he was mod here when I joined].

Then why did you close my thread when acidmelt posted in it and said he would allow it?

I never said it would be that simple. I would have to talk with you to the point I was convinced enough that you were indeed joking about it.

So it was a joke?

Granted you could do a good enough job to fool me. But then if you really want to put out that much effort and energy into fooling me so you can totally expose yourself to being busted by offering to sell or facilitate the sale of something that illegal, then by all means go for it.

What if i was a cop pulling a sting?


I don't give a damn what you think my intentions are.



It's not my fault you haven't as much creative thinking going on in your head as I do then.

I don't give a damn if you give a damn about what i think your intentions are.

You made a post that apparently has a point, noone else got that point..

Explain the motherfucking point you lame fuck, or please keep your secret messages or whatever the fuck it was to somewhere it won't cause a problem.

Is acetic anhydride even illegal I know we should say shit about sources but im trying to look into this and so far its hard to come by because of legallity? or is it just rare?

To the OP: get yourself a copy of Otto Snow's Oxy. The rapidshare link I used is down, but I'll try to search around for a copy tomorrow.

its difficult because of its ability to react, irritate, and flammability...


but that doesn't mean you probally don't see trucks of it driving around town, because they do. its relatively important in organic chem..

oh yea, its on a DEA list, ya know, just to make sure you really want it..

meta is a cop?
lol.

get real people

I never said he was a cop.

All i meant was meta should think before he posts something so controversial, he's been around long enough to know whatever point he had for doing so probably wasn't worth having to explain himself afterwards... which he hasn't done yet, all i see is excuses.

So just in case there's any mistake, the only accusation i've made is that meta is a dumbfuck.

I don't think Meta liked being called a hypocrite since someone deleted my post saying his hypocrisy knows no bounds.

your full of shit, you don't have a deleted post in this thread..

your full of shit, you don't have a deleted post in this thread..

oh shi-

your full of shit, you don't have a deleted post in this thread..

I'm pretty sure she was talking about another thread/forum (help and suggestions). I'm pretty sure I remember it :p.

your full of shit, you don't have a deleted post in this thread..

I stand by what I said. This was the thread that i posted in stating that he was a boundless hypocrite and in fact the thread was in my subscribed threads list yet the post was missing. It's not my fault you cant see all the posts that are somehow deleted.

Sorry, Meta, but you messed up in this one.

It's on a DEA list. List II, right up there with acetone and benzyl chloride. However AA is much more controversial than simply buying some acetone at the hardware store.

SWIM tells me it's easy to make though. ;)

email me at my screen name at hotmail.com, i may assist you.

email me at my screen name at hotmail.com, i may assist you.

ExtremeZ, don't admit to anything illegal or accept any illegal goods or services!

It's not my fault you cant see all the posts that are somehow deleted.

a mod can in the forum they mod, you didn't get deleted bud. sorry, thanks for playing, better luck next time...


i still can't see how all of you are missing at meta gloating about something. any halfwit can tell you his intent was not to give out a source, but let you know there out there. i mean i could be wrong, but i doubt it..

ExtremeZ, don't admit to anything illegal or accept any illegal goods or services!

Obviously. I'm not fucking stupid lol. I'm not planning on anything illegal; and no, you can't assist me, good sir.

a mod can in the forum they mod, you didn't get deleted bud. sorry, thanks for playing, better luck next time...


i still can't see how all of you are missing at meta gloating about something. any halfwit can tell you his intent was not to give out a source, but let you know there out there. i mean i could be wrong, but i doubt it..

This just tells me that super mods can permanently delete posts which is highly gay if you ask me.

I'm not interested in arguing with you. I was just stating the fact that a post of mine was "removed". I know It was successfully posted here and in fact I was subscribed to this thread, so I am not just making this shit up. Why the hell would I do such a thing? But, thanks for your concern and support in my future deleted posts not completely disappearing. :)

any halfwit can tell you his intent was not to give out a source, but let you know there out there. i mean i could be wrong, but i doubt it..

Any halfwit interested enough in heroin manufacture knows they're out there.

So forgive me if it seems odd that he would let us know with such inappropriate wording.

He just wanted to sound cool saying he can get AA, he does the same shit with HI acid. I knew damn well he wasn't actually offering anything, but to brag in a manner that implies you are offering something makes you even more of a retarded douche than simple bragging.


Especially since it can be had fairly easily on a certain auction site with proper searching. You aren't special.

He's just got all that "creative thinking" going on in his head.

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. The only thing he thinks about is his "power" on totse. Hell, half the time he doesn't even do that well! He fucking closes threads that shouldn't be closed just because he can..then he misses some blatant troll threads that should be closed.

I know this isn't B&M...so I'll stop now before I get a good old fashioned banning for posting in the "wrong forum"

i still can't see how all of you are missing at meta gloating about something. any halfwit can tell you his intent was not to give out a source, but let you know there out there. i mean i could be wrong, but i doubt it..


You got it exactly right - and you don't SN.

The fact that so many of you are still going on about this so long after I first posted is giving me no end of amusement.

As for thinking only about my power here? Hahaha! If you really think that then you are truly a moron.

Fact is, I have hardly spent more than an hour or two a day on totse all month [haven't been on IRC either..Well, I've been logged in but that's because I leave my home computer on 24/7]. Believe me, if it weren't for a certain feeling of a little bit of responsibility to people around here I wouldn't even bother spending the time that I do as I have to take time from the other things I have been doing this past month - things that I find I enjoy much more than I do spending time on a computer.

IOW, yes, I have a life. Go figure....

You got it exactly right - and you don't SN.

The fact that so many of you are still going on about this so long after I first posted is giving me no end of amusement.


Vilbe gets it right because he doesn't add that you're a douche afterwards?

The reason i keep going on about it is because you can't accept that you said something fucking stupid.

Fuck, the whole thing could have been avoided if you'd just edited your own post.

who cares

Does anybody have a link to this?

Pathetic.

He just wanted to sound cool saying he can get AA, he does the same shit with HI acid. I knew damn well he wasn't actually offering anything, but to brag in a manner that implies you are offering something makes you even more of a retarded douche than simple bragging.


I know where there are several litres of acetic anhydride (http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/SIAL/242845)... ;)

I also know where there is a copy of Otto Snow's "Oxy" (http://rapidshare.com/files/149723319/otto__oxy.djvu.html) (and a couple of missing pages (http://rapidshare.com/files/149723320/oxy_pg-220-221.djvu.html))...

Many, many things I know... I wish "how to avoid proscrastinating on the internet instead of doing the ludicrous amount of work I should be doing" was one of them...

Oh well...

;)

p.s. if anyone wants to know where to get some top notch charlie (http://www.kirkbytimes.co.uk/alaughitems/crack/crack.html)...

Thank you fcknut :)

Once again judge judy coming to the rescue of totse.Slam that fuckin hammer sn slam it.Like everyone here doesnt just talk through private messages and trade sources.Shut the fuck up,even if he was bragging he didnt say nething wrong.I swear every fucking time I come here I hear a 9 year old cunt crying about our totse rights and constitution being violated,and how dare someone actually make an unintentional infraction once in a while.Totse dont need a fucking mom,we already got moderators.I think meta knows the rules,hence hes a fucking super mod.