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 #1 
Old 2008-09-25, 19:15
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southern NJ USA
Default acid situation

K so here is the story, my friend T is getting some acid from some kid in my school tomorrow (fri) he is getting 3 hits at 10 bucks a hit. 1 for me, 1 for T, 1 for our other friend A. A has done acid a couple times before but this is me and T's first times doing it, but we've run into a few problems. see A is having a party on saturday where there will be some weed but me and T dont really live near her, plus my dad is strict as hell (were 15 and 16) cuz he caught me with pills one time so the only way i can get out is if i go over T's house. T's dad is also strict and might not let us out of the house if i stay over. but lets say all of that works out and we do get to go out to the party, there are a few questions i have for &T: 1.will we be able to ride our bikes home on acid (bout 40 mins away) 2.is it possible to get past his dad without him noticing (he is drunk almost every time i go over) 3.how long will the high last cuz i need to be sober by the time i get home 4. lastly this doesnt really matter but does acid show up in piss tests.

Go ahead and flame me or molotov everything cuz of the n00biness but any answers are appreciated. thanks &T:)
 #2 
Old 2008-09-25, 19:28
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Out there
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1.will we be able to ride our bikes home on acid (bout 40 mins away)

Bike riding is one of the coolest things to do on acid. As long as it's a relatively safe road, yes.

2.is it possible to get past his dad without him noticing (he is drunk almost every time i go over)

Yes.

3.how long will the high last cuz i need to be sober by the time i get home

The 'high' will last about 8 hours for the more intense parts. The come down isn't exactly 'sober', but you'll be 'sober' enough to function in front of your parents.

4. lastly this doesnt really matter but does acid show up in piss tests.

No.

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Now, with that said, you're already making a few mistakes. Taking acid at a party is a bad idea, as is taking acid in a house with strict parents around. The setting in which you trip is one of the most important factors of having a good trip, and the options you've laid down are both bad.

Although, you're only taking one tab each. There's a chance they'll be strong enough to have you tripping nicely, but I kind of get the feeling that they're not going to be too strong, so the setting won't really matter too much if they're weaker.

It's peculiar that your one friend has tripped several times and still thinks tripping at a party is a good idea. With that many people around, they're going to be a huge distraction from the psychedelic, which can actually make the trip less intense because you can't focus on your mind. Among other things, though, it can also make the trip unpleasant, and worst case scenario can make you have a bad trip.

You're not playing with something like weed or opiates or anything like that. You're taking a very powerful psychedelic. Granted, you're only taking 1 tab each, but like I said, there's a chance it'll be decently potent.

Tripping in nature > everywhere else.
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Old 2008-09-25, 20:09
ego-twitcher ego-twitcher is offline
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1.will we be able to ride our bikes home on acid (bout 40 mins away)

2.is it possible to get past his dad without him noticing (he is drunk almost every time i go over)

3.how long will the high last cuz i need to be sober by the time i get home

4. lastly this doesnt really matter but does acid show up in piss tests.

Go ahead and flame me or molotov everything cuz of the n00biness but any answers are appreciated. thanks &T:)

1. Most likely.

2. Most likely.

3. 8 hours.

4. Yes.
 #4 
Old 2008-09-25, 20:51
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southern NJ USA
Default Re: acid situation

Bike riding is one of the coolest things to do on acid. As long as it's a relatively safe road, yes.



Yes.



The 'high' will last about 8 hours for the more intense parts. The come down isn't exactly 'sober', but you'll be 'sober' enough to function in front of your parents.



No.

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Now, with that said, you're already making a few mistakes. Taking acid at a party is a bad idea, as is taking acid in a house with strict parents around. The setting in which you trip is one of the most important factors of having a good trip, and the options you've laid down are both bad.

Although, you're only taking one tab each. There's a chance they'll be strong enough to have you tripping nicely, but I kind of get the feeling that they're not going to be too strong, so the setting won't really matter too much if they're weaker.

It's peculiar that your one friend has tripped several times and still thinks tripping at a party is a good idea. With that many people around, they're going to be a huge distraction from the psychedelic, which can actually make the trip less intense because you can't focus on your mind. Among other things, though, it can also make the trip unpleasant, and worst case scenario can make you have a bad trip.

You're not playing with something like weed or opiates or anything like that. You're taking a very powerful psychedelic. Granted, you're only taking 1 tab each, but like I said, there's a chance it'll be decently potent.

Tripping in nature > everywhere else. Yea i'm still not sure if were going to the party and i think she wanted us to go to the party because there would be some sitters but i will definatley try riding my bike whilst trippin... T just brought up a good question while i was talking to him: how does sleep factor into the trip?
 #5 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:00
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NJ
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IME you wont be able to sleep for about 12 hours after you dose without taking CNS depressants.

of course, i havent run controlled experiments, and there are other factors in my situation, and i dont know the norm for everyone, but thats me.
 #6 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:03
fretbuzz fretbuzz is offline
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1. Most likely.

2. Most likely.

3. 8 hours.

4. Yes.


No, it doesn't show up in piss tests. You'd have to get a spinal tap to prove you've done acid.

IME you wont be able to sleep for about 12 hours after you dose without taking CNS depressants.

I took 3 5mg percocets about 10 hours after dropping and passed out pretty quick once I started to nod. Before I took them there wasn't any hope of crashing.
 #7 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:12
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mah compound
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None of you have any business tripping. Listen to your parents, and have some fucking respect. Save the mind altering earth shattering drugs for when you grow the fuck up.
 #8 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:18
Optionryder420 Optionryder420 is offline
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There's no test for acid, I'm 99.9% sure that the spinal tap thing is bullshit, acid doesn't stay at the top of your spine or any of that bullshit.

A is lying to you btw, she's never done acid if she needs a sitter and is doing it at a party.

One tab barely had me tripping the one time I did it, but I, at one time, ate mushrooms very often.

To me, it sounds like you're going over your head. Psychadelics aren't really that great of an idea for someone with an undeveloped mind. Really, I wouldn't recommend pyschadelics to anyone below the age of 18, or at least 17.

And if you were experienced at tripping, you'd have no problem going past the strict father and riding your bike to a party. Really, if I were you guys though, I'd just go out all day tripping and riding bikes, that'd be tight as fuck. I mean, you can't OD on acid, nothing bad can happen while you're on acid unless you do something stupid. Go on a bike ride and skip the party, you won't regret it.
 #9 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:35
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i would highly advise against doing acid in that siutation. Raeding your post i couldnt really find one positive aspect of the situation. When your tripping you want to be in a good mindset beforehand and have nothing to do and worry about.

One of my friends whos tripped alot said the first time you trip it should be in a small group and you should be in a good mindset. He said not to do it at a party or in a public place till your more experienced
 #10 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:48
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bangor northern ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
None of you have any business tripping. Listen to your parents, and have some fucking respect. Save the mind altering earth shattering drugs for when you grow the fuck up.


you need to chill out someday... just because you do drugs doesnt mean u dont respect your parents, theres a balance between respect for your parents and respect for your own decisions.

now stfu and gtfo
 #11 
Old 2008-09-25, 21:57
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Connecticut
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its a waste of acid to trip at a party, you and your friend would have a better time tripping at his house. however, give the remote possibility it is acid or a DO[X] you'll run that fine line of trying to keep your cool for 12 hours...

if memory serves correct, no commerical drug testing company tests for LSD anymore...


you'll have the ability to ride your bike, i'm not sure about desire however. who likes to over-exert themselves while tripping?
 #12 
Old 2008-09-25, 22:12
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Out there
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Not only do you NOT need a sitter for LSD, but it's a lot better without one.

And yeah, Optionryder is probably right, if she thinks tripping at party + needing sitters are good ideas, she most likely hasn't done acid.
 #13 
Old 2008-09-25, 22:32
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mah compound
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vilbe
its a waste of acid to trip at a party, you and your friend would have a better time tripping at his house. however, give the remote possibility it is acid or a DO[X] you'll run that fine line of trying to keep your cool for 12 hours...

if memory serves correct, no commerical drug testing company tests for LSD anymore...


you'll have the ability to ride your bike, i'm not sure about desire however. who likes to over-exert themselves while tripping?

I have a friend that will spin poi or glow sticks for the entire trip. I have no idea where or how he gets the energy for that.


EDIT: and to "The G" you need to suck my fucking dick one day. The OP is a child. A CHILD under the authority of his parents, who not only gave him the gift of life, but have taken care of his ungrateful little ass for fifteen fucking years, feeding him, clothing him, and paying his way through school thus far. I don't think it is too much to ask that he respect what they say for THREE more years until he is on his own. LSD is not something any 15 year old should be doing anyway. Have you ever read Hoffmans book, My Problem Child?

I suggest you give it a look, pull your head out of your ass and realize that acid is not just a drug, it is a tool of the mind, and using such tools on such an undeveloped mind is only asking for trouble.

You need to shut the fuck up and know your place you little shit.
 #14 
Old 2008-09-26, 00:27
rtb91 rtb91 is offline
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Default Re: acid situation

Acid usually stays in your system for 72 hours
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Old 2008-09-26, 00:27
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southern NJ USA
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Hey thanks for all your opinions guys when i see my friends tomorrow i'll tell them that the party thing wont work and that we should do something else like go to the park

BTW stupid noob i have the utmost respect for my parents and this isn't one of those trying to get back at them for years of pain kind of things i am doing this at my own free will and though it may be wrong seeing as i am a "child" i dont plan on doing acid every day of my life and shutting everyone out im simply experimenting with psychedelics. I do see what you are getting at but i think if you have been introduced early it gives you time to learn and do it right.
 #16 
Old 2008-09-26, 00:35
Chubigans Chubigans is offline
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Btw, FYI the first time i did acid i actually got DoX. So account for that. I dont know if its just my florida situation, but 9/10 times I get shit that lasts me for 20+ hours.

So account for that.
 #17 
Old 2008-09-26, 00:42
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mah compound
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15 is still too young, regardless of your reason.


And chubigans, test kits man, test kits. Ehrlich reagent will tell you if what you have is LSD. If it ain't purple, it ain't acid.
 #18 
Old 2008-09-26, 00:45
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yeah, its a good call not to go to that party, you have no idea what acid is gonna be like until is starts hitting, no matter how many trip reports you have read. If you want a good first trip you should most definitely stay in a comfortable place or have a comfortable place near by and listen to some good music.
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Old 2008-09-26, 01:12
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Why would you take acid at a party? It's not at all a party drug, that's almost as stupid as hearing about kids smoking salvia at a party then wondering why it wasn't enjoyable
 #20 
Old 2008-09-26, 01:15
boostinkyboo boostinkyboo is offline
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Wait you're only 15? I wouldn't take acid at all then if I were you. I'm glad I didn't even smoke weed yet when I was 15, you're still an immature bastard who doesn't know shit about shit. Don't believe me? Look back at yourself in 3 years and see if you agree.
 #21 
Old 2008-09-26, 01:20
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Connecticut
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you know, i really wonder if the young mind is resiliant enough to bounce back quicker from an intense bad trip...

SN's point is, your actions are still your parents responsibility ATM. yes, that includes when you take a step into the void...


however, counterpoint: you could open some doors, and close some as well. i'm not sure you've really thought about taking acid more than figuring out the who what where and when. your missing the most important question. why?
 #22 
Old 2008-09-26, 01:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
15 is still too young, regardless of your reason.


And chubigans, test kits man, test kits. Ehrlich reagent will tell you if what you have is LSD. If it ain't purple, it ain't acid.


You don't decide who does and who doesn't do drugs. An old fart on the internet bitching at him is not going to stop him.
 #23 
Old 2008-09-26, 01:21
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mah compound
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boostinkyboo
Wait you're only 15? I wouldn't take acid at all then if I were you. I'm glad I didn't even smoke weed yet when I was 15, you're still an immature bastard who doesn't know shit about shit. Don't believe me? Look back at yourself in 3 years and see if you agree.

He won't listen. He's 15, he knows everything.
 #24 
Old 2008-09-26, 01:26
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Hey thanks for all your opinions guys when i see my friends tomorrow i'll tell them that the party thing wont work and that we should do something else like go to the park

i know a kid who when he first started tripping he went into our local park once, and he had a bad trip. Said he freaked out cuz of the open space. And he had tripped before that, just not that many times.

I asked him specifically if a setting like a park would be a good idea, he siad not till your more experienced. But hey thats just his opinion
 #25 
Old 2008-09-26, 02:09
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southern NJ USA
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He won't listen. He's 15, he knows everything.

I'm not a know it all asshole i take what everyone is saying to heart cuz the way i look at it is that most of you guys have more experience with drugs then i do so i am not going to say fuck you guys i'll do what ever the hell i want im going to say that im compiling all of what is being said and considering what i should or should not do
 #26 
Old 2008-09-26, 02:48
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The forests of Norway
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stupid noob, your vitriol is overexcessive. i agree with your sentiment, but the manner in which you articulate yourself is strangely bitter.
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Old 2008-09-26, 02:54
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mah compound
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmodeuss
stupid noob, your vitriol is overexcessive. i agree with your sentiment, but the manner in which you articulate yourself is strangely bitter.


I am a bitter person. You would be too if you were me. Shut the fuck up and mind your own business.
 #28 
Old 2008-09-26, 02:58
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why are you taking acid?
is it to 'feel good' and 'trip out maaan'?? wait wait, i already know the answer. see i was a lot like you when i was younger. well in terms of ignorance towards drugs. but really, acid isn' t something you take to have fun on. well it is, buts its just as much, if not more, a learning tool. one hit really isn't shit, so maybe going to the party isn't that bad of an idea, but going to a party on acid, imo, is disrespecting it. if you disrespect acid it'll cock slap you with the quickness. watch out.
 #29 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:06
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NJ
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dummy nothing against you but i hate it when people personify drugs.

abusing drugs a bit irresponsibly will not automatically mean it will "cock slap" you, or cause adverse effects.

if its a chill party with just like 20 or less kids hanging out drinking beer and smoking and hooking up, yeah trip thatd be cool, but if its a fucking rager or open house or whatever dont expect to have a good time.
 #30 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:06
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Out there
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but going to a party on acid, imo, is disrespecting it. if you disrespect acid it'll cock slap you with the quickness. watch out.

Listen to this man.
 #31 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kwerjack
dummy nothing against you but i hate it when people personify drugs.

abusing drugs a bit irresponsibly will not automatically mean it will "cock slap" you, or cause adverse effects.

if its a chill party with just like 20 or less kids hanging out drinking beer and smoking and hooking up, yeah trip thatd be cool, but if its a fucking rager or open house or whatever dont expect to have a good time.


to each their own. personally i get very uncomfortable trying to function in front of the 'others'
 #32 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:25
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The forests of Norway
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I am a bitter person. You would be too if you were me. Shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

oh, so now you're the single person on this planet afflicted by misfortune? go scrape yourself with a plastic fork, you putrid motherfuck.
 #33 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:34
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Out there
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to each their own. personally i get very uncomfortable trying to function in front of the 'others'

We certainly have that in common, too. I just see no reason why you would even WANT to on acid...I give that advice time and time again to people and they seldom listen.

If I can't be either:

1. Alone
2. Only with others who are tripping or
3. At a concert/festival

I simple will not trip. There's no real reason (let alone desire) to do it under any other conditions.

But, as you said, to each their own...
 #34 
Old 2008-09-26, 03:58
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mah compound
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oh, so now you're the single person on this planet afflicted by misfortune? go scrape yourself with a plastic fork, you putrid motherfuck.
Did I say that? No. Do you have any fucking idea how difficult and frustrating it is to hurt so bad all day every fucking day for almost a fucking decade that you can't even pick up your own child? Do you have any idea what it's like to be in prime physical condition, only to be bound to a fucking chair for the rest of your life? Do you know what it's like to hit the floor from sheer pain just trying to walk to the bathroom? Do you know what it's like to know that you can never play baseball with your son? Or teach him to ride a bike, simply because you can't fucking WALK? Do you know what it's like to have to depend on your wife to make the money and support your family? Do have any fucking idea what that does to a mans ego?

No, you don't, because you aren't a fucking man, you are some teenage fucking punk, so shut your fucking mouth you ignorant little shit.
 #35 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:10
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We certainly have that in common, too. I just see no reason why you would even WANT to on acid...I give that advice time and time again to people and they seldom listen.

If I can't be either:

1. Alone
2. Only with others who are tripping or
3. At a concert/festival

I simple will not trip. There's no real reason (let alone desire) to do it under any other conditions.

But, as you said, to each their own...

the ignorant don't listen but soon learn.
 #36 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:27
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The forests of Norway
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Did I say that? No. Do you have any fucking idea how difficult and frustrating it is to hurt so bad all day every fucking day for almost a fucking decade that you can't even pick up your own child? Do you have any idea what it's like to be in prime physical condition, only to be bound to a fucking chair for the rest of your life? Do you know what it's like to hit the floor from sheer pain just trying to walk to the bathroom? Do you know what it's like to know that you can never play baseball with your son? Or teach him to ride a bike, simply because you can't fucking WALK? Do you know what it's like to have to depend on your wife to make the money and support your family? Do have any fucking idea what that does to a mans ego?

No, you don't, because you aren't a fucking man, you are some teenage fucking punk, so shut your fucking mouth you ignorant little shit.

you have my sympathy and most gracious condolences, however destitute of worth they may be to you. i would not have antagonized you had i knowledge of your plight.
 #37 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:27
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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1.will we be able to ride our bikes home on acid (bout 40 mins away)
physical activity is wonderful on acid. it will be a fun ride home.... as long as its a pretty safe road you will be fine... the first intentional acid trip involved a bicycle ride...


2.is it possible to get past his dad without him noticing (he is drunk almost every time i go over)

ive been around sober family members on 2 hits of acid, no one noticed... keep speaking to a minimum. try not to have a face to face conversation with him, your pupils will be huge.


3.how long will the high last cuz i need to be sober by the time i get home 4. lastly this doesnt really matter but does acid show up in piss tests.


after about 6-8 hours you will be coming down significantly, residual effects last about 12 hours, 14 before you will probably get any sleep or really want to eat.

also, parties arent the greatest places to trip, unless its the chilled out stoner type get together, but then again i dropped a gel tab at one crazy fucking icp party... kids were running around with hatchets, burning anything that might catch on fire including a couple hundred dollars worth of stolen Halloween decorations....

alcohol will bring down the effects, weed will make things more intense...

have a nice trip, bring an ipod with some good music. i recommended the beatles. Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band is great.... its hard not to be happy listening to it.

and about the age thing, i dont think i could have dropped acid when i was 15... that was a bad part of my life filled with depression. I wouldn't have been ready for it. I dropped my first time when i was 16 a few months before i turned 17, i had changed alot since then and i had grown up alot. 16 is still pretty young to drop acid, but i have never looked back and regretted my psych use.... it will change you as a person, be ready for that. Its a drug you have to respect or it will mentally fucking rape you... It can be a Utopian dream, or a nightmare.

why do you want to take it, just to get fucked up or do you want to learn about yourself? there are far better things to just get fucked up on, the experience is powerful and very likely life changing. its not something to do just because your bored, do it for yourself.

it wont show up on a piss test.
 #38 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:31
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dude just know that you won't have your normal thought process and that you're just fucking with a drug.that might scare you iono. chances are you're going to be pissed that all you had was this one little hit. for sure get some weed and smoke it when you feel the peak start to come down if you want a nice little boost.
 #39 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:48
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chances are you're going to be pissed that all you had was this one little hit

Fo' sho'. This is where I use the term 'mental blue balling'. I figure those three words say a lot.

I'd rather trip too hard that not hard enough. But hey, we're all different.

Also: I can't stand the whole concept of a trip sitter. Especially when you get someone who hasn't done the drug before to 'sit' for you. When people are inexperienced in a drug they generally have no idea of what you're feeling, but they often like to think they do. The most annoying thing in the world on acid is when people try to 'fuck' with you because they think you're out of your mind on some 'drug'.

If they only knew...

Trip sitters are nothing but distractions from losing yourself to your mind. (Not to be confused with losing your mind.)
 #40 
Old 2008-09-26, 04:51
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damn... you guys are queers...

OP, man up, eat as much acid as you can, and do whatever comes naturally. i like to walk around the city and talk to people, and give the homeless LSD.

when you are ready to move up a grade, purchase the textbook (fear and loathing in las vegas) and talk to me.
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Old 2008-09-26, 05:21
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the first time i did acid i road across sf on a racing bicycle. and i've gone mountain biking on acid. i think other than potentially getting confused/distracted and crashing or somthing, another significant danger could be like over heating or something. i say this because i remeber on these rides, i'd be tripping balls right, while pushing myself as hard as i fucking could climbing hills and shit. maybe it was the drugs that made me think of it at the time but it came as a real concern. other than that its a blast man,


but yeah tl/dr bikes are good

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 #42 
Old 2008-09-26, 05:29
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but yeah tl/dr bikes are good
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 #43 
Old 2008-09-27, 05:23
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I think you'll really like these...

http://www.hokeyspokes.com/

awesome... now how can i mount some to a ceiling fan?
 
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