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Old 2008-09-24, 10:16
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Hi All

Just wondering from any experienced E users if it is better to take a whole and then a half later on in the night or take the half first and then take the whole later on?

What is the best order to do it in? (hypothetically speaking)
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Old 2008-09-24, 11:06
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That's the best way, drop a whole pill then maybe snort or choot a half.
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Old 2008-09-24, 11:07
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Take each pill whole.
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Old 2008-09-24, 11:44
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nah 2 whole ones not an option.. so whole is best to take first then eh?
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Old 2008-09-24, 12:39
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Default Re: E Dosages throughout the night

If you only have 1 & a 1/2 pills, then do the 1/2 then the whole about an 60 / 90 minutes later.

With E, the later into the night you get, the more (and bigger amounts) you want to ingest.
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Old 2008-09-24, 12:48
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Eating a dose, and then later eating half that dose is called supplementing and will increase the duration of the trip, though not the intensity. After you have established exactly how far your first dose is going to take you, and you feel comfortable with it, and want it to last longer, then yes, it would be ideal to eat half of your original dose at this point.
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Old 2008-09-24, 13:09
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Default Re: E Dosages throughout the night

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nah 2 whole ones not an option..
You need more options...
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Old 2008-09-24, 17:19
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I'd take the half and then the whole, I'd want it to hit harder later in the night. It depends what kind of effect you're after.

I agree though, you need more options. How good are the pills? I'd be tempted to wait it out, have a few drinks, a smoke if that's an option, then eat them at the same time.
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Old 2008-09-24, 17:28
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I'd take it all at once.

There isn't really a point in dropping anything less than 2 dids at one time.
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Old 2008-09-24, 18:35
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^^^^

I agree.

Id rather have a hard roll than a longer not so hard roll.

You won't even roll that hard with 1 and a half e pills
so pop it all at once have a nice time then youll come down wishing you had more, but hey atleast your gona have a good roll.
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How long is a peice of string? How can we tell you how much to take when we dont know exactly how much/what the pills contain or what your experience and tollerance is?

Just bosh them both down no point in spacing it out they are pills and chances are pretty weak anyway, might as well make the most of it.
+1 if you put them up your arse to REALLY get the most out of them!
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Old 2008-09-24, 19:31
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These are strong pills, major eye wobbles all the good stuff. I've had them before. I wanted to save my other 1 and a half for another night but everyone reckons 2 in one night? I do need to last til 6am..
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Old 2008-09-24, 20:07
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These are strong pills, major eye wobbles all the good stuff. I've had them before. I wanted to save my other 1 and a half for another night but everyone reckons 2 in one night? I do need to last til 6am..


*devil on the shoulder*

Well, what's the point in having a single pill left over?
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These are strong pills, major eye wobbles all the good stuff. I've had them before. I wanted to save my other 1 and a half for another night but everyone reckons 2 in one night? I do need to last til 6am..


In that case depends what you want to go for, depends on your tolerance. I could imagine that even with a lot tolerance they wont keep you going till 6am whatever way you take them. Maybe drop one and then drop the other half when you start to feel effects lessening +2 hours or something just to keep it going? I would say split it into three halves and drop them over the course of the night but if they are good pills why waste them on a night long mild buzz when you could get seriously messy and worry about how long they last later.

Iv had some amazing pills before that have majorly fucked me up on one whole pill but the night before I only dropped half (the same pills) I got bugger all out of it except a mild buzz and didn't exactly come up quickly either.
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Old 2008-09-24, 20:41
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Personally, I would prepare both pills into a solution with a specific mg/ml, and bang that shit. One would have more than enough to last a whole night with that method. Not to mention IVMDMA is fucking tits.
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Old 2008-09-24, 20:56
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Personally, I would prepare both pills into a solution with a specific mg/ml, and bang that shit. One would have more than enough to last a whole night with that method. Not to mention IVMDMA is fucking tits.


Good luck sneaking injection gear into a rave, which is where it sounds like the OP is going.

Although IV MDMA sounds interesting, how different are the effects?
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Personally, I would prepare both pills into a solution with a specific mg/ml, and bang that shit. One would have more than enough to last a whole night with that method. Not to mention IVMDMA is fucking tits.


Do you think this guy has the kit he needs or the experience to prepare and IV this stuff? Not to mention the fact it would be unknown mg/ml in a pill without a fair bit of work and decent scales plus he would be banging all the other shit that pill will probably be cut with.

And as rainbows said, taking an rig into a rave then finding somewhere to prepare and IV the stuff would be pretty difficult.

I would really like to try IV MDMA, its one of the only drugs id really consider IVing.
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Old 2008-09-24, 21:42
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Do you think this guy has the kit he needs or the experience to prepare and IV this stuff? Not to mention the fact it would be unknown mg/ml in a pill without a fair bit of work and decent scales plus he would be banging all the other shit that pill will probably be cut with.

And as rainbows said, taking an rig into a rave then finding somewhere to prepare and IV the stuff would be pretty difficult.

I would really like to try IV MDMA, its one of the only drugs id really consider IVing.
It's really not as hard as you are making it out to be. A bit of column chromatography employing a few of the most basic test reagents, a few basic solvents, some activated carbon, and a few syringes, one to act as the chromatograph column, one or two for moving liquids around and filtering, and finally one to bang. I'm sure you have some silica laying around somewhere, and if not just go grab a few from brand new backpacks in a store.

It's not so much about availability of materials as it is knowing how to use the materials one has available.
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Old 2008-09-24, 21:44
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Both at the same time. Trust me, it will be a much better time than taking half then a full one later on (or vice-versa). The best is taking 2 full ones at the same time, can't whack it with a tenny racket!!
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Old 2008-09-24, 22:12
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It's not so much about availability of materials as it is knowing how to use the materials one has available.

Exactly!
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Old 2008-09-24, 22:26
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With 1.5 pills, I wouldn't bother testing them. You eat them, you have a great roll or you're speeding around the place or you're watching people walking on the bottom of the floor because you got ket pills, but you'll have a fun night whatever and it's a one-off. Nobody will press pills that will do you any damage if you eat one and a half. Test away if you buy a big batch, but I think anything beyond "eat them and see" is excessive in the circumstances.
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Old 2008-09-24, 22:52
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Aye but good pills and bad pills are the difference between an amazing night and an absolutely awful night and its not something you can go back on.
Iv had a few raves ruined now because either I or a friend has dropped a dodgy pill or two.
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Old 2008-09-24, 23:08
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I would say pop the whole pill, at about 45 minutes put the other one up your nose, I think this might give you the best bang for your buck.

Or you could just get some more pills.
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Old 2008-09-25, 14:44
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I would say pop the whole pill, at about 45 minutes put the other one up your nose, I think this might give you the best bang for your buck.

Or you could just get some more pills.


Intranasal MDMA is bullshit, you get a lot more from it orally it just hits you quicker up the nose but when it actually comes down to it a lot less of the drug is getting into your system.
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Old 2008-09-25, 16:14
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Intranasal MDMA is bullshit, you get a lot more from it orally it just hits you quicker up the nose but when it actually comes down to it a lot less of the drug is getting into your system.

Personally I like snorting MDMA, and I don't think it's terribly uncomfortable compared to how bad some people say it is. Unpleasant drips though. It hits about 15 minutes quicker than pills, but the effects never seemed any less to me. I don't do it often though, I don't really do it much outside raves and snorting shit in a club isn't as easy as popping a pill.

My favourite method (unless I want to get mashed) is still pure MDMA dissolved in water and drunk over an extended period of time. It gives you the steadiest come-up and the longest effects. Then just eat half a pill when you think you're peaking. BAM.
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Old 2008-09-25, 20:09
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Iv always thought wacking it in some water would be a good idea to take it but I drink so much water I would either end up drinking too much too fast or carrying separate bottles and getting mixed up.

I don't really mind the taste of mdma, I usually just dab it and chuck it loose in my mouth and take a swig of water, I usually chew or suck my pills rather than swallowing but iv never felt the need to snort it or bother parachuting/capsules unless its pre-measured doses for a night.
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Old 2008-09-26, 10:07
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Iv always thought wacking it in some water would be a good idea to take it but I drink so much water I would either end up drinking too much too fast or carrying separate bottles and getting mixed up.

I don't really mind the taste of mdma, I usually just dab it and chuck it loose in my mouth and take a swig of water, I usually chew or suck my pills rather than swallowing but iv never felt the need to snort it or bother parachuting/capsules unless its pre-measured doses for a night.


If we're in a group that's gonna be together all night (if there's only 3-4 of us going), we'll just have a mandy bottle and a few water bottles. Otherwise, it's not too bad carrying two bottles (clubs that sell small bottles like The End are great for this) if you've got big pockets, just rip the label off one or the other. You can taste it in the water anyway. I'm not much of a fan of dabbing 'cos it seems to hit me a bit unevenly. I don't hate the taste either though, I'll usually chew up a pill a bit and then wash it all down with some water.

I don't drink that much water anyway. It stays in my stomach for ages, and if I have too much I get bloated and feel sick.
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Old 2008-09-26, 16:41
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do NOT redose throughout the night. this is how a tolerance gets built fucking FAST. in like month and a half period i went from 5-6 pills a weekend to 20-30. I'm lucky I have a brain designed for the pleasures of ecstasy or I'd be retarded or have lost the magic.
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Old 2008-09-26, 16:46
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do NOT redose throughout the night. this is how a tolerance gets built fucking FAST. in like month and a half period i went from 5-6 pills a weekend to 20-30. I'm lucky I have a brain designed for the pleasures of ecstasy or I'd be retarded or have lost the magic.

Um, no, you were already retarded before that. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Old 2008-09-26, 17:08
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do NOT redose throughout the night. this is how a tolerance gets built fucking FAST. in like month and a half period i went from 5-6 pills a weekend to 20-30. I'm lucky I have a brain designed for the pleasures of ecstasy or I'd be retarded or have lost the magic.


I've taken MDMA or pills more weekends than not over the last three months, I've not built much of a tolerance at all and I take constant small doses throughout the night after a larger one to get me off the ground. And 20-30 pills in a weekend is just idiotic and will end up giving you brain damage.
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Old 2008-09-26, 17:22
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Intranasal MDMA is bullshit, you get a lot more from it orally it just hits you quicker up the nose but when it actually comes down to it a lot less of the drug is getting into your system.

I was thinking snorting it after the first pill would make it so that the peak would be more intense, he isn't going to make it through the night any way with only 1.5 pills, so at least he could have a strong peak.

Or he could parachute one and take a whole one at relatively the same time...eitherway, its better to have a strong peak than a long mild buzz thats just a let down.
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Old 2008-09-26, 17:41
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Um, no, you were already retarded before that. What the fuck is wrong with you?

lol you really know how to hold a grudge don't you? I'm sorry to say I hold your opinion in low regard and the only reason I'm even responding is that you irritate me with your constantly negative posts and your disgustingly pretentious holier than thou attitude. from what I've gleaned about you your a gimp with no friends who are your own age, where does your smugly superior attitude come from? is it a defense mechanism? narcissism is just a internal attempt to defend oneself from feelings of inferiority. inside are you just a fragile young boy who never got enough love or attention? it's okay stupid noob I understand your need to stoke your ego online in order to make it day to day in the real world you just go ahead and say whatever you want about me and I wont even fight back. narcissism isn't a good long term strategy for a fulfilling and happy life maybe you should seek some counseling, you could be the first internet douche bag to seek help for his inflated ego, maybe it will even become a trend. think of the possibilities a whole new branch of psychology dealing with internet personality disorders, what an exciting concept just imagine the possibilities you gimpy fuck.
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Old 2008-09-26, 17:45
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I've taken MDMA or pills more weekends than not over the last three months, I've not built much of a tolerance at all and I take constant small doses throughout the night after a larger one to get me off the ground. And 20-30 pills in a weekend is just idiotic and will end up giving you brain damage.

yeah Its definitely not a good idea it was a fucked up period in my life, my best friend got sent off to rehab because of our stupidity and I stopped long ago. Too much of a good thing will really fuck you up, I felt horribly out of it and depressed for like a month afterwards. none the less I really can't say it wasn't worth it, it helped me shape myself as a person and I'll always feel a strong love for the love drug
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