So i just received my salvia package today. I bought the leaves and this small machine to make extracts, but forget about that now.

my question is, if I roll a bunch of ground leaves into a joint, maybe add some of the crystals from the extraction I just made, will it work or should I stick to the pipe thing? I wanna get a good trip.

a joint wont get hot enough....

using a bic, hold the flame over it the entire time...

using a torch, you will just need a few seconds to reduce it all to ash...

zippos get hot enough as well... it makes it taste different but if you break through that wont be much of a concern after about 30 seconds....

use a bong, it makes it much easier on the lungs but with extracts a pipe will work if you have the lungs to hold it in, its harsh as fuck and the smoke is hot while just holding a lighter to it the entire time but it works...

Dont ever smoke salvia in a joint, it tastes like gash and you will never get anything more than very slight effects.

fuck it. I used my pipe. It burned and tasted like shit, but it did give me an awesome effect. Just after my first hit, the room changed dimensions, it was staritng to get good just when the fucking neighbor decided to start his lawnmower and killed my trip.

Thats what I get for doing it in the middle of the day.

fuck it. I used my pipe. It burned and tasted like shit, but it did give me an awesome effect. Just after my first hit, the room changed dimensions, it was staritng to get good just when the fucking neighbor decided to start his lawnmower and killed my trip..

you have obviously never felt the full effects of salvia if you think a lawnmower killed your trip.

That's not true. I smoked a salvia joint and got teh fux0red. It led to a very funnay situation at school.

That's not true. I smoked a salvia joint and got teh fux0red. It led to a very funnay situation at school.

here is a hint... if you can even conceive the concept of your neighbor mowing his lawn... you haven't done enough....

When you take a hit and 30 seconds later your hurled out of the reality as you have seen your entire life into a whole new and strange world that is all being created by your mind... or maybe there is no world, its never the same as the last trip... i have been thrown into the white abyss without a body, there was only a huge red and white circus tent... another time i visted the abyss and instead of a circus tent it was an infinitely stretching system of interconnected triangles made of candy canes and people... my last salvia trip, long story short i was thrown into what i belived to be some fucked up television show, and then final judgment because i figured i had died. stepped into a fire, my mind was so far away from my body i felt no pain. someone tackled me out of it and i trashed a tent...

smoke more... you have no idea the potential for this shit to make your ego come crashing down...

the judgment thing seems to be a recurring them with the salve.

twice at break-through i felt very clearly that i had altered my mind so that i was now visible to something that generally can't see/ignores us... like, some god that only looks at you if you look at him. i felt like i could now see, i looked at him, and he turned his gaze on me, and i felt the most rending scrutiny... he could see through me, knew everything about me, and was making a decision about me, and that thought terrified me. the second time, i felt more as though i had entered the presence of another plane, populated by ego's that were not necessarily wise, but far seeing and deep seeing, and they saw me for what i am instead of what i make myself appear to others... i could feel myself be measured, and found wanting.

disconcerting, to say the least

the judgment thing seems to be a recurring them with the salve.

twice at break-through i felt very clearly that i had altered my mind so that i was now visible to something that generally can't see/ignores us... like, some god that only looks at you if you look at him. i felt like i could now see, i looked at him, and he turned his gaze on me, and i felt the most rending scrutiny... he could see through me, knew everything about me, and was making a decision about me, and that thought terrified me.

disconcerting, to say the least

You retained your sense of self though? It was looking at YOU?

For me, it was all there was, I had lost my ego. And the entity was horribly impersonal and indifferent

You retained your sense of self though? It was looking at YOU?

For me, it was all there was, I had lost my ego. And the entity was horribly impersonal and indifferent

the two times "i" was judged, no, i did not experience ego death.

i broke through three other times, once while on LSD, and all those times i did have a ego death... the time on acid, the feeling of ego death persisted a while after i came down from salvia, and i became afraid that my ego would never return.

only done it 3 times but Bong>Pipe

you have obviously never felt the full effects of salvia if you think a lawnmower killed your trip.

Exactly, that was the first time I ever tried it, the question aint just for nothing.

Anyway. Yesterday I did it again and this time I did it well. It was awesome.

I cut a hole on a waterbottle and stuck the mouthpiece of my pipe in it so as a homemade bong.

Took one hit, held it for like 30 seconds, but half way through the 30 seconds, I started to feel like I was expanding like a baloon. By 25 seconds, I was my room, and the only room anywhere, and everywhere outside was a magic forest with fairy tale creatures.

Then I blew out the smoke and laid flat on my bed. I felt the wall behind me rolling over me and grinding me into pieces, then everything was wet and I was like, fuck, the bong must have fallen! so I stood up, looked everywhere for it and it was nowhere, but even the walls were wet.

Finally, I somehow reached the bathroom and found I had put the bong over the sink. I took another hit and went back to my bed. By now, the room had flipped over.

I heard the garage door open, so I was somehow suddenly running on the street into my door. The world flipped over again so the stairs were at my side and Id be walking on the wall, and they were spinning and about to kill me, so I rushed back into the house and I spawned back inside the bathroom again. Only in there things were normal.

I looked at the bong again and I was like -awesome, so this is what it does, I must tell all of my friends!- so I rushed to the door, but suddenly, the room was a huge forest and I was a lapricon running with a golden pipe on my hand. after hours of running I reached a golden doorknob, twisted it and saw the living room all dark and noone there, so I went back to bed (everything turned normal for a second).

Laid flat on bed, it was huge, I mean epic. I took one pillow, put it over me and hugged it, suddenly, the matress started to envelop me. I closed my eyes and saw myself in my mind turn into a huge quesadilla, with my matress being the cheese and I the ham, and being eaten.

I went back into the bathroom and it was normal, but I looked outside and the room was upside down, so I just went back to bed, tripping over everything on my way. Layed back on bed and stayed there untill everything was off. Those last moments of it were so comfortable.

Later, I asked one of my home mates if I had really ran outside the house as I did on my trip. he told me I never came out of my room. Awesome. All of that happened inside my room.

Not to say, when I came to myself, there was this HUGE paper ball inside my makeshift bong. Cant figure out how it got there.