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Old 2008-09-22, 03:55
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After 3 months of NO use how much would ones tolerance to opiates have diminished?
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:00
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A bit.
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:08
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all the way
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:10
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all the way
Doubt it, there's always "mental" tolerance, hence why you don't wonder what you broke when you wack off nowadays etc etc...
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:12
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Doubt it, there's always "mental" tolerance, hence why you don't wonder what you broke when you wack off nowadays etc etc...
ok, except the pretend mental tolerance, all the way
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:29
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ok, except the pretend mental tolerance, all the way
If say initially I could get high as fuck off 10 - 15 mgs oxy no tolerance are u saying physically it would be like that again even though I can now bang like 20 mgs dilly? Physically will it ALL be gone. I am not talking about physiological aspects, purely physical. Also I hear u build new opiate receptors or sumthing when u use and they make it hard to get high even after breaks? Pls explain this and what my tollerence would be like after 3 months no use.
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:34
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i mean yeah youll never be a complete "noob" again but itll be more or less the same.

what i mean is, say when you first started using opiates, you would die of say 50 mgs oxy...ok, now, after three months, assuming no other factors have changed (weight, enzyme levels, etc) the same amount what be needed to kill you
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:35
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Surely after three months you've saved up enough cash to do some trial and error..
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Old 2008-09-22, 04:36
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Yeh, once you get your little foot into the big footprint of LSD experience, it's rather bizarre.
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Old 2008-09-22, 08:03
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lets say this. orally you got blasted off 20mgs of oxycodone...


buy 40mgs of oxycodone, rail 20mgs. gauge from there. hey man, your disapointed, ya got more waiting...
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Old 2008-09-22, 12:39
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lfo was outside my house last week beggin me for some perc so his w/ds would go away why do you try to bre cool on here.
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Old 2008-09-22, 17:58
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So if say right now I would need around 60 or more ( aprox guesses here but pritty acurate). I could get a pronounced effect after 3 months with no use. Essentialy my tolelrence in the physical sense will have flatlined? Does this only mean as far as ease of overdose or will my tollerence have lowered so that that lower dose triggers a large reaction in my opiate receptors that it would take around 60 to do with my current tollerence?
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Old 2008-09-22, 18:21
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give us where you left off, we got how long its been...

so if you were doing say 60mgs for a good night, you could probally do 40mgs. the question is not what you did in a night though, not that its not important, but how much you'd do to get high [ie: a typical at once dose]. junkiedom requires a few highs in any given day, which is not as significant [but still important] at what you'd do as a typical dose...

so say you were blowing/eating 40mgs just to get high, you could easily get high off 20mgs. [a dose, i'm not saying for the entire day/night]
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Old 2008-09-22, 19:20
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I have been clean 3 days. I would use 1-2 times a week. I would genrally bang around 20 - 24 mgs dilaudid. Or around 100 - 130 mgs morphine. Oxy, I would take almost exclusively orally and easily demolish 1.5 - 2 80's in about 9 hrs. After 3 months of NO use, where would I be. And weirdly enough I have never been physically dope sick.
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Old 2008-09-23, 00:29
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I have been clean 3 days. I would use 1-2 times a week. I would genrally bang around 20 - 24 mgs dilaudid.


well going on the fact your wondering 3 months from now, you'd probally be set with 12mgs of dilaudid. key word there is probally, theres more factors than just time. remember the general rule of thumb you can always shoot more but never cancel out too much


Or around 100 - 130 mgs morphine.

i'm rather unfamiliar with spiked morphine, so i'm opting out of adding my two sense.

Oxy, I would take almost exclusively orally and easily demolish 1.5 - 2 80's in about 9 hrs.

well, IMO oxy is best mixed between orally and blowing. but, you'd probally still be able to do an 80 in 9 hours. i doubt your taking it as intended [extended released, which might be up your alley, becareful though] but i'd suggest if you were to get back into it start in 20mg increments.




all those doseages are as of three months from last useage, and not an exact 100% spot on, but an educated guess. use good judgement. kinda off topic, but sense you brought up never being sick, how long do you stay clean before typical use, and how long have you been doing that [to get your tolerance as high as it is?] no binges? or just never stayed on long enough to shut down your endorphin's. you could be a lucky one. but i warn you, your in a good place now. once you DO get phyiscally addicted, it will always be a hell of alot easier to become it again, months/years down the line.
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Old 2008-09-23, 00:47
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How long before 10 - 20 oral oxy would be like the first time i ever did it?
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Old 2008-09-23, 01:35
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How long before 10 - 20 oral oxy would be like the first time i ever did it?


you will never experience that most likely. if you break for like 6 months to a year, you'll get high off those amounts sure, but never to the extend of those virgin highs. residual tolerance, ya know, the mental side..
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Old 2008-09-23, 03:46
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you will never experience that most likely. if you break for like 6 months to a year, you'll get high off those amounts sure, but never to the extend of those virgin highs. residual tolerance, ya know, the mental side..

Got it. O yah, after a long break does tollerence take time to re build or do u only get a cpl low dose highs before you are back up again and does taking small dxm dosses before actually keep it low?
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Old 2008-09-23, 04:51
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after a long break does tollerence take time to re build or do u only get a cpl low dose highs before you are back up again and does taking small dxm dosses before actually keep it low?

It'll build faster and just to preempt you no i don't know how fast...

No.
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Old 2008-09-23, 13:46
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Got it. O yah, after a long break does tollerence take time to re build or do u only get a cpl low dose highs before you are back up again and does taking small dxm dosses before actually keep it low?

now say it took you 6 months of use to get where you are now, it'll be quicker than 6 months...
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Old 2008-09-23, 17:03
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It'll build faster and just to preempt you no i don't know how fast...

No.
I believe DXM does help slow tolerance, as well as having adequate amounts of the minerals Zinc and Magnesium prior to dosing (Eat some bananas and Raisin Bran the previous day/s). Not positive of the first one, but thats what people have told me; Im looking into it currently.
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