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Old 2008-09-22, 01:54
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I believe this is the proper thread to post this in, if not, mods, please move it.

Note: Long post, skip to the bottom to get to the question I'm asking, read on for the full story (might bore you though).

So a couple of my friends who are the people to go to for pills of all kinds, including ecstasy, know a guy personally, who presses ecstasy pills. These two friends are heavily into OC's and all there friends/people they hang out with are also into OC's and opiates of every kind. These two brought up the subject, while hanging out with the ecstasy presser, of pressing pills in the shape of an OC. To make a long story short, they told him they could make him some money if he could get them in the shape of OC's. They found a way to bend a small piece of metal, like the kind on the eraser of a pencil in the shape of the marking on an OC 20. Now its by no means perfect but unless you look very closely you wont really notice that the lines look more like slices make form a sharp edge then a marking made by the presser on a machine. I have to admit, the final product they and the E presser came up with is very convincing, even to me, and I've been to rehab/detox twice for the shit.

The only problem they have is the coating. I told them maybe they could say they already licked it off to the buyers, or sell halves (they made a couple oc 80's too), but they want to sell a large majority at once to the bigger peoplez. They've actually already sold 3 halves, and the funny thing is, most of the people who bought em' didn't even notice (these people usually need doses of 100 mg's + to reach even a buzz as they do opiates multiple times a day. Maybe a huge placebo? I'm not sure, anyways...

I know first off this is a dumb thing to do and there is a good chance it will lead to some angry customers and possible physical altercations. Most of the people they sell to are kids they chill with (not exactly friends, just the type of people u always somehow seem to meet at the spots you hang at). They have occasional buyers of 20+ 80's and 40's who claim to be big dealers (I don't know them really well so I don't know if this is true).

I am not involved in any way in this except that these two kids are close friends of mine, but I am never mentioned in the process of purchases or anything else, so I will be removed should a conflict arise.

Anyways sorry for the long story, I know its boring, but here's my question:

****QUESTION IS HERE****Although I doubt they can keep this up for a while, they wanna make a couple big sales and some money while they're still doing it (I told them they'll probably ruin there customer base but they don't care), so, can anyone think of any interesting or creative ways to put a coating on these things? A coating that will also come of with saliva, or even just scraped (might be able to get away if it doesn't come off with saliva, they'd just shrug it off and tell the buyer to scrape if off with a finger nail). We've thought about different paints, acrylic, oil based, maybe some sort of thing latex substance? If we can find something that will work I'm sure we can color it to the proper color of the OC coating with a few trial and errors. They also put some real OC in the pill when they press it so the drip doesn't taste to fake, the shit they press it with they claim tastes like OC drip anyways.

So totse, any ideas? I'm pretty sure anyone buying more then one or a half of one will probably realize his bag of 10+ OC's are off on the shape a bit (they really have come very close, so who knows) but they're sure they can sell to at least two big guys one time each. My friends already plan on people finding out anyways. Yes I know this will probably end bad, and no I don't care. All I want is the brilliant minds of totse's ideas on making a coating. Again sorry for the long post, and thanks for any and all help.
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:04
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I know you said you're aware of it already but I must reiterate the fact that this is a really, really good way to get shot.

This is probably a troll thread anyways. Anyone buying 20+ 80s is going to be able to tell the difference between something pressed at Purdue Pharma and something pressed in Jamal William's basement.
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:09
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what are the pills actully made up of?
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:12
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I don't think they'll get shot, maybe get the shit beaten outta them/robbed. We're in New Hampshire, most people aren't very hardcore, but there are some people who have guns to protect there shit.

Also trolling this kind of question/story would not yield sufficient lulz to make up for the time spent creating said question/story.

No its not a troll thread, yes its a dumb idea. The bigger buyers will probably know, the smaller ones, might find out eventually. Although I have to say I have seen them sell 10-20+ OC 80's and the guys litterally take the big, glance quickly without even opening it, and drive off. So they could get away with making some good money once, but the repercussions probably would not be worth it, but hey, its there idea not mine.

The pills look pretty real to be honest, they've fooled a couple kids when cut in half or when they said they already licked the coating off. The size in diameter is slightly slightly slightly off, the thickness is literally perfect. Only the edges are noticeable when looked over thoroughly, and even at that you'd be second guessing yourself thinking you were just paranoid or overly suspicious, until you took/railed one at least.
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:17
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Droppinds, they are made up of around 20-30 mg's of oxy when they make the 80's, and 5-10 mg's when they make 20's, the rest is a combination of whatever the ecstasy presser happens to have, usually caffeine pills, or this supplement you buy at a muscle building store. Thats what they tell me, though I've never seen it pressed so I honestly don't know.
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:22
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I don't think they'll get shot, maybe get the shit beaten outta them/robbed. We're in New Hampshire, most people aren't very hardcore, but there are some people who have guns to protect there shit.
the worst thing you could do is rip off a junkie. new hampshire has junkies, the planet does. your friends, are probally going to die.


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Also trolling this kind of question/story would not yield sufficient lulz to make up for the time spent creating said question/story.
i fail to see the humor..

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No its not a troll thread, yes its a dumb idea. The bigger buyers will probably know, the smaller ones, might find out eventually. Although I have to say I have seen them sell 10-20+ OC 80's and the guys litterally take the big, glance quickly without even opening it, and drive off.
surprised you didn't put it in bad ideas, as thats what it is, but those guys will eventually call to reup and instead, kill your buds...



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So they could get away with making some good money once, but the repercussions probably would not be worth it, but hey, its there idea not mine.
its not any less illegal or of a hassle than selling real OC's ironicly..

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The pills look pretty real to be honest, they've fooled a couple kids when cut in half or when they said they already licked the coating off. The size in diameter is slightly slightly slightly off, the thickness is literally perfect. Only the edges are noticeable when looked over thoroughly, and even at that you'd be second guessing yourself thinking you were just paranoid or overly suspicious, until you took/railed one at least.

so what is this bogus filler, when will we be reading about this in the news?




now, your friends are moronic. i doubt they press "X". if i were you, i'd distance yourself from these guys fast, no good is going to come to them. by the way, smooth move having your city and state in your user info. . now sense this has no merrit to drugs what-so-ever, and the OP will just get flamed to death on the ever so fine line of "drug morality" this is going to bad ideas, because well thats what this is. a really fucking bad idea..
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Old 2008-09-22, 02:47
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Yeah it is a terrible idea, and the reason you fail to see the humor is cause' there isn't any, which is why this would be a poor troll attempt. Anyways I'm positive they wouldn't get killed, beat up yeah, killed no, the kids they sell larger amounts to have been robbed/ripped off before and they still have yet to do anything to the last guy who robbed them for 10 oxys straight up, and that was 7 months ago. They've really only beaten up one guy who sold them three caffeine pills as oxy's, wrapped up tightly beyond visibility in a bag. Other then that, not much. The other kids are normal drug users, they got shitty jobs at fast food restaurants, still go to high school, etc.

Anyways I will ask them tomorrow the contents of the pills, though I'm sure its caffeine and a little bit of oxy.
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