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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-09-18, 08:19
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Defekt 
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Marijuana and Anxiety
http://www.panicattacks.com.au/articles/mari.html
I personally have some of the symptoms there, its not really that great of a feeling. I'm sure that some of you are going to say that something else caused this, but thats something we'll never know.
I feel dissociated completely sometimes, like I am just commanding this body to do what it will, when panic attacks hit, I feel like I'm going crazy, and that makes it even worse.
I don't really have anything to add, I'm feeling like shit and just wanted to post this to give my mind something to do.
I mean, I could be having emotional flashbacks to a few dmt uses, and a lsd trip, but I also experience these feelings tenfold on weed. Theres really no saying what triggered the fucked up case of anxiety I have, but like I said, I'm just throwing this out there.
Stay safe guys.
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#2
 2008-09-18, 08:23
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I feel dissociated completely sometimes, like I am just commanding this body to do what it will, when panic attacks hit, I feel like I'm going crazy, and that makes it even worse.
I used to get this all the time when I was smoking 1/2 oz's / day of green.
That was over a year ago, now I only smoke a few times per month, and that dissociated feeling has totally gone.
Now all I have is the anxiety of having to face people 
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#3
 2008-09-18, 08:24
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Defekt 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I used to get this all the time when I was smoking 1/2 oz's / day of green.
That was over a year ago, now I only smoke a few times per month, and that dissociated feeling has totally gone.
Now all I have is the anxiety of having to face people
I hope this shit goes away. It gets fine sometimes, like for a period of a week or more, and I feel like I'm back to normal. But, when I'm feeling fucked up it seems like eternity.
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#4
 2008-09-18, 08:26
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Lots of people get anxiety from weed. It's one of the few downsides from pot. Unfortunately though you made this thread about nothing, so I'm going to have to give you the canned response "totse is not your blog" followed with the cliche "GTFO."
edit: one thing i can tell you though, vaporizing lessens the anxiety. it doesnt eliminate it though. so you might want to think about investing in a good vape. also, moderation definitely helps. if youre smoking all the time, of course youre going to have some bad effects, and anxiety is one of them. what you need to do is take a month off, let your system clean out. then when you go back, go back with a vaporizer and do it in moderation. this will help a ton.
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#5
 2008-09-18, 08:27
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I hope this shit goes away. It gets fine sometimes, like for a period of a week or more, and I feel like I'm back to normal. But, when I'm feeling fucked up it seems like eternity.
Do you smoke much?
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#6
 2008-09-18, 08:29
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
people that experience this usually have anxiety already in their daily lives. while some people will just get completely chilled out from weed, some will be more anxious. to get rid of the anxiety, take your mind off of whatever is fearing you, watch something funny on tv, eat something, play a video game, go on totse, whatever u want. once u take ur mind off of the paranoid thoughts, whatever your having fun with will leave you feeling relaxed and enjoying the high. taking a benzo, drinking, or taking an opiate before smoking are all sure fire ways to eliminate the possibility of anxiety coming up, but after smoking enough you'll figure out how to relax on it, its all about taking control of your mind, which is harder to do in a foreign and intense state. hope that helped, and happy toking :)
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#7
 2008-09-18, 08:31
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Defekt 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I've only smoked 3-4 times, but for some reason they were hugely intense. The last time I smoked, I had an out of body experience where sat in this black space with glowing blue lines in the shapes of cubes, then got sucked back into reality while simultaneously looking at all of space and time.
I dont even know what the fuck that was all about.
After smoking, each time the anxiety was the worst, for a week or two after. It sucked, I felt like I could get sucked out of my body at any time. I'm completly afraid of death, and anything that even sort of hits at it I get freaked out by.
I had a panic attack the other day because I saw my cat, and thought how shes getting old. (it isnt useually this bad)
I feel like a little vagina, but I cant even do anything about it.
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#8
 2008-09-18, 08:32
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Anxiety isn't exactly a 'fear' of something, it's more the feeling of fear brought on by nothing.
Like while I'm sat here my heart will suddenly feel like it's missed a beat and I will suddenly become really alert, heart will be racing, feeling nervous, etc.
@ Defekt - maybe you just shouldn't smoke ;)
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#9
 2008-09-18, 08:35
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Defekt 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
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Originally Posted by sexy_fiend
people that experience this usually have anxiety already in their daily lives. while some people will just get completely chilled out from weed, some will be more anxious. to get rid of the anxiety, take your mind off of whatever is fearing you, watch something funny on tv, eat something, play a video game, go on totse, whatever u want. once u take ur mind off of the paranoid thoughts, whatever your having fun with will leave you feeling relaxed and enjoying the high. taking a benzo, drinking, or taking an opiate before smoking are all sure fire ways to eliminate the possibility of anxiety coming up, but after smoking enough you'll figure out how to relax on it, its all about taking control of your mind, which is harder to do in a foreign and intense state. hope that helped, and happy toking :)
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Benzos help considerably, although I try not to take them every day, the days I don't tend to be the ones that suck.
Its hard to take my mind off it too, the thing that causes my anxiety that is. I can't escape my consciousness, I cant escape the fact that I'm going to die one day, and everything I do will mean nothing. Normally I'm fine with that, and understand it as a part of life, but now even thinking about it terrifies me. Seeing old ladies scares me, hearing about a stabbing, driving past hospitals, watching dog the bounty hunter, shit everything.
They dont always send me into a panic attack, If I'm fast about it I can push it out of my head, but a good portion of the time, if i dont have anything to distract me, I'm left feeling dissociated for a while.
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#10
 2008-09-18, 08:37
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Defekt 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
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Originally Posted by parkus
Anxiety isn't exactly a 'fear' of something, it's more the feeling of fear brought on by nothing.
Like while I'm sat here my heart will suddenly feel like it's missed a beat and I will suddenly become really alert, heart will be racing, feeling nervous, etc.
@ Defekt - maybe you just shouldn't smoke ;)
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I know, but my anxiety is useually brought on by a thought about death, or conciousness. Then my heart speeds up, I think about how my dad died of a heart attack, I think I might have heart problems and it gets 100x worse.
OR I start feeling dissociated, feel like im going crazy, which makes me feel worse. Then ill come up with some random reason why I'm feeling that way, itll be something like "maybe youre just a psychic" then I'll think "what the fuck, no, dont think shit like that you nutso" and it gets worse.
Its like a funny little cycle, it causes symptoms which make the symptoms worse.
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#11
 2008-09-18, 21:26
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
try getting hypnotized
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#12
 2008-09-18, 21:37
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Benzos help considerably, although I try not to take them every day, the days I don't tend to be the ones that suck.
Its hard to take my mind off it too, the thing that causes my anxiety that is. I can't escape my consciousness, I cant escape the fact that I'm going to die one day, and everything I do will mean nothing. Normally I'm fine with that, and understand it as a part of life, but now even thinking about it terrifies me. Seeing old ladies scares me, hearing about a stabbing, driving past hospitals, watching dog the bounty hunter, shit everything.
They dont always send me into a panic attack, If I'm fast about it I can push it out of my head, but a good portion of the time, if i dont have anything to distract me, I'm left feeling dissociated for a while.
Sometimes in the afternoon after smoking early in the day I start thinking about how pointless my life is, how there was a time before my mind existed, how I'm going to fail at everything and how, one day, I'm going to die and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.
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#13
 2008-09-18, 22:23
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Oddly enough I only get anxiety when I use in moderation. When i smoked daily nonstop I was totally fine but my memory sucked. When I toke occasionally the anxiety of having to face people is much worse, and I'm a pretty sociable guy sober.
Which kinda makes me think this is the end of the line for me and pot, sadly.
It's like I'm having to go out back and kill the family pet in the most brutal manner possible before microwaving it's body.:(
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#14
 2008-09-19, 01:58
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I have panic attacks every once in a while, and the dissociated feeling is the absolute worst part of it - if you've never experienced it it's absolutely horrifying and you feel like you will never be able to feel alive or normal again. Typically I will avoid weed when this happens as I have no desire to feel even more disconnected from reality than I already do.
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#15
 2008-09-19, 02:05
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I've been dealing with this too. Honestly? Don't smoke any more pot. If you're about to smoke, and you feel uncomfortable at all, DON'T smoke. It took me a couple months of not smoking, and the first time I smoked I was with some really good friends, out on the town getting drunk and clubhopping... and it was great, I was perfectly fine. I haven't smoked since then (about a week ago) but meh, I feel better after stopping anyway. Smoking makes me too lethargic.
You might want to look into therapy, talking about this kind of stuff with a professional helps LOADS.
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#16
 2008-09-19, 02:32
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I get this when I get very high.
I try and remember stuff, then I think "oh I can't remember anything dude look what i've become.. a burned out druggie.. i cant even remember SHIT! blah blah blah i used to be so smart WTF!"
then I realize I'm just high, and I'm not always high, and it's all good. That's not the only thing that happens, just a clear example that comes to mind.
i used to be quite the paranoid when i smoked, now i really just act as normal as possible, only giveaways being twitching/swaying, haha.
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#17
 2008-09-19, 06:35
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Benzos help considerably, although I try not to take them every day, the days I don't tend to be the ones that suck.
Its hard to take my mind off it too, the thing that causes my anxiety that is. I can't escape my consciousness, I cant escape the fact that I'm going to die one day, and everything I do will mean nothing. Normally I'm fine with that, and understand it as a part of life, but now even thinking about it terrifies me. Seeing old ladies scares me, hearing about a stabbing, driving past hospitals, watching dog the bounty hunter, shit everything.
They dont always send me into a panic attack, If I'm fast about it I can push it out of my head, but a good portion of the time, if i dont have anything to distract me, I'm left feeling dissociated for a while.
-Fuck damnation, man! Fuck redemption! We are God's unwanted children? So be it!
-OK. Give me some water!
-Listen, you can run water over your hand and make it worse or...
-[shouts] look at me... or you can use vinegar and neutralize the burn.
-Please let me have it... *Please*!
-First you have to give up, first you have to *know*... not fear... *know*... that someday you're gonna die
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#18
 2008-09-19, 11:56
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MadStyles 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
if you're serious about wanting to smoke more weed and getting over your anxiety just smoke MORE weed EVERYDAY. if you smoke everyday, the highness you experience is ALWAYS less intense than someone who doesn't smoke everyday.
if that doesn't work. try smoking pot by yourself, not in social settings until you get a grasp on yourself.
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#19
 2008-09-22, 15:15
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Defekt 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I have a doctors appointment today, and will hopefully get prescribed some xanax.
I smoked weed yesterday, had about one hit of dank, and had a pretty good time. It was enough to relax me, but not nearly enough to send me to "omfg im high as balls" land.
This morning i feel good too, hopefully it shall stay. Normally for up to a week after smoking weed I feel disociated and fucked up.
I also drank for the first time in a while where it was actually euphoric like it used to be, :] maybe I'm getting a bit better.
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#20
 2008-09-22, 17:30
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Staying 
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Marijuana wont cause it, but it'll bring it out like it did in me. All for the better in the end though. If I hadn't have smoked weed I wouldn't know half I know today. A little anxiety is worth well beyond what I've learned from marijuana.
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#21
 2008-09-22, 19:15
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
Anxiety is your stomach telling you that an opportunity is knocking, that something is about to happen. I get a similar feeling coming up on mushrooms.
It is up to you as the observer of this feeling to choose to see it is as good or bad. To see the situation as either problematic or as an opportunity/obstacle to overcome.
I am wondering if this negative, anxious feeling you have is caused by smoking lots of pot, or is an already existing feeling thats becoming exaggerated and dragged out into the front of your mind by the pot. I am leaning towards it being the latter.
Change the way you perceive your predicaments.
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#22
 2008-09-22, 21:14
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
i started getting panic attacks when I smoked weed, they occured over a year ago (smoked for 2-3 years not nearly everyday sometimes a week or two without), so i quit for obvious reasons.
now a year later I still get them frequently and ive been seeing several doctors/psychiatrists because of it, you know when you freak out when real high, and your breathing gets fucked and you pace? yah... thanks marijuana!! shit sucks
defekt, you seem to have identical symtoms as me. all the same triggers as well. I dont want medication too bad tho i dont like drugs lol. drinking is the shit though, keeps my mind off of stupid things that shouldnt matter.
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#23
 2008-09-22, 21:17
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
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Originally Posted by Defekt
http://www.panicattacks.com.au/articles/mari.html
I personally have some of the symptoms there, its not really that great of a feeling. I'm sure that some of you are going to say that something else caused this, but thats something we'll never know.
I feel dissociated completely sometimes, like I am just commanding this body to do what it will, when panic attacks hit, I feel like I'm going crazy, and that makes it even worse.
I don't really have anything to add, I'm feeling like shit and just wanted to post this to give my mind something to do.
I mean, I could be having emotional flashbacks to a few dmt uses, and a lsd trip, but I also experience these feelings tenfold on weed. Theres really no saying what triggered the fucked up case of anxiety I have, but like I said, I'm just throwing this out there.
Stay safe guys.
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Have you gone to the doctor?
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#24
 2008-09-22, 21:32
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
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Originally Posted by Defekt
http://www.panicattacks.com.au/articles/mari.html
I personally have some of the symptoms there, its not really that great of a feeling. I'm sure that some of you are going to say that something else caused this, but thats something we'll never know.
I feel dissociated completely sometimes, like I am just commanding this body to do what it will, when panic attacks hit, I feel like I'm going crazy, and that makes it even worse.
I don't really have anything to add, I'm feeling like shit and just wanted to post this to give my mind something to do.
I mean, I could be having emotional flashbacks to a few dmt uses, and a lsd trip, but I also experience these feelings tenfold on weed. Theres really no saying what triggered the fucked up case of anxiety I have, but like I said, I'm just throwing this out there.
Stay safe guys.
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The reason you are experiencing what you are experiencing regardless of what some of the others posting on the site may tell you is quite simple. When you inhale marihuana smoke, the active ingredient is known as THC. Tetrahydrocannibol to be precise... anyways it aggrivates canniboid receptors in the brain causing the release of serotonin. Serotonin is good, BUT too much of it can cause anxiety and depersonalization/derealization, which is what you are experiencing. If you're finding yourself feeling this way just keep in mind you're NOT going to die and it WILL go away.
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#25
 2008-09-22, 22:09
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Re: Marijuana and Anxiety
I've had panic attacks before. Once you get through the first one or two, and relize that its a common problem and happens to a handful of people... it becomes less of a problem. You smoke the weed because you want to feel differant, theres no reason to get freaked out when it does its job...
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