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Old 2008-09-13, 06:28
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Default Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

I've realized something about BLTC. I used to think that the majority of the people on this forum did not lie about the drugs they used, because I thought to myself "Why would anyone lie on an anonymous drug forum, its not like anyone here can really give props to them and raise there fake self esteem, right?" wrong.

My buddy gave me some lorazepams. I looked them on on Totse and everyone seems to say "Oh not recreational. Just barely good for anxiety. These suck. Yeah there bad."

Feeling a bit disapointed, I took 4mg orally and waited. About 40 minutes later I stand up out of my chair and almost fall the fuck over. I'm fucked up. This is like xanax to me, only difference is that it lasts 6+ hours and takes longer to kick in.

Oh, they make me HALLUCENATE as well. All the patterns I look at rearrange. Shit is weird. This is a good benzo, I would put it on my top favorite 3.


Now, uncovering the Totse liars. This is the third drug I've done that has contradicted Totse's underlying beliefs.

1) HBWR/LSA = gay don't work omg puke thats it.
I bought some HWBR, crushed up 6 in my mouth and had a very legit trip that felt like a combo of 2c-e and LSD (visually), only "negative" was not as much psychedelic thinking.

2) Savlia OMG you need like 100x to break through.
I've smoked 5x in a bong and broke through in 4 hits. 10x from the same company made me break through in 2 hits..

3)Lorazpeam is such a shitty benzo it barely works nevertheless could get you high.
4mg had me high. 6mg had me fucked up hard plus somewhat intense hallucenations.




And now my theory about each of these:

People on these forums actually haven't used that many drugs. They come here seeking information on drugs to look cool in RL in front of their friends. They see what the general consensus of a thread says about a drug, they make a reply saying the same exact thing hoping no one will call them out on being a liar for acceptance, and then the next time a thread pops out about it they will repeat.

Proof: Anyone who has actually eaten 4+ HBWR would trip hard. I took 6 HBWR during a time when I was using a lot of 2c-e and LSD so even w/ cross toleracne HBWR was a really good ride. Yet everyone on this forum says they don't do shit and just make you puke then you get a shitty body high and go to sleep.

Slavia is more subjective but still. You don't need 20x to get you to break through.

Lorazepam..this is obvious. This is a somewhat rare benzo, yet how does 100% of BLTC tend to claim to have done this? There are no reports on this forum (I believe) of hallucenations but me and all my buddies who just did this have talked about it (I waited for everyone else to bring it up and they did) and I've checked the side efffects, hallucenations are common.


Queers.



TL/DR: Lorazepam is legit! 4mg is like xanax but you have to wait for 40minutes, plus it lasts 6 hours. You get minor pattern hallucenations. BLTC is full of liars.
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Old 2008-09-13, 06:30
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

I knew this.
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Old 2008-09-13, 06:36
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

^^

Yeah...everyone knew this. I haven't seen anyone say that you couldn't use them recreationally. Some people don't like them because they are basically pointless and only slightly enjoyable..but no one denied its legitimacy.

Wanna hear something strange? Not everyone enjoys the same drugs you do.

As far as the Salvia goes i'd figure you were smart enough to know that drugs affect people differently. Some people break through easily while others have a helluva time getting there if they ever do.

Same goes for LSA. Some people love it and some people can get very little from it and some become ill after ingesting. I've tried every method with LSA and don't find it all that enjoyable. Again let me clarify..not everyone enjoys the drugs you do.

Thank you for doing some hard hitting detective work for BLTC..even though no one asked you to.

Maybe you should stop relying on anonymous tips on an internet forum and figure things out for yourself more often.

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Old 2008-09-13, 06:43
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Thumbs down Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

Wow, NiggerPope your retarded. You popped some Lorazepam and got high? That is shocking.

BLTC has many retards but a few intelligent people who for the most part, actually know what they're talking about.

Your one of the retards. Every other fucking word in your post was misspelled. I'm assuming you created a horrible thread written in ebonics about your previous drug questions and when people flame you or say sarcastic bullshit you take it as fact. Totse didn't lie to you. Don't get butthurt.
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Old 2008-09-13, 06:44
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

lolwtf i also knew this, and i'm drunk as fuck.


I had wonderful experiences with argyreia nervosa, and morning glory. and i've railed ativan a few times, a year ago, i was remembering it to be quite xanax-like before i opened this thread. as for the salvia, i'm kind of afraid to touch it again at the moment, but i took a few hits of this shit my brother got from this local headshop, and it was a very interesting and insightful experience.
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:00
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

Lorazepam are ok, they can get the job done I never tried HBR but i did try morning glorys with no good results and hell I broke through on some salvia leaf I think the brand was called purple sticky salvia .
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:02
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Talking Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

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the brand was called purple sticky salvia .
how ironcic. lolol.
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:07
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I've tried every method with LSA...
...railing shards?
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:20
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...railing shards?
OMFG have you actually railed LSA's??
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Old 2008-09-13, 07:34
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Dude you are sucha lowlife nigger.

And you're going to jail right?
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Old 2008-09-13, 09:35
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Lul, I love how you say "exposing," like this is a scooby doo mystery or some shit.
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Old 2008-09-13, 12:39
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yeah this isnt a surprise, lorazepam is (maybe) my favorite benzo of the ones ive had. its different for everyone.
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Old 2008-09-13, 13:33
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This is off topic but if Lorazepam is supposed to treat anxiety then it must be a pretty shitty drug if it knocks you out like that and makes you unable to walk.
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Old 2008-09-13, 13:35
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This is off topic but if Lorazepam is supposed to treat anxiety then it must be a pretty shitty drug if it knocks you out like that and makes you unable to walk.
he took 4 mgs you jackass. regular doses are .5 mgs to 1 mg.
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Old 2008-09-13, 13:39
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

Oops. Should have looked up the dosages for benzos.

Sorry.
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Old 2008-09-13, 13:52
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

1. Lorazepam is not a "rare" benzo

2. Lol @ LSD/HBWR "cross tolerance"
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Old 2008-09-13, 15:27
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

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Lorazepam are ok, they can get the job done I never tried HBR but i did try morning glorys with no good results and hell I broke through on some salvia leaf I think the brand was called purple sticky salvia .

Purple Sticky Salvia is legit, and it's extract.. I broke through HARDCORE on some 15x purple sticky brand, like oh my god.
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Old 2008-09-13, 18:04
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Lorazepam..this is obvious. This is a somewhat rare benzo, yet how does 100% of BLTC tend to claim to have done this? There are no reports on this forum (I believe) of hallucenations but me and all my buddies who just did this have talked about it (I waited for everyone else to bring it up and they did) and I've checked the side efffects, hallucenations are common.
Ativan is the 3rd most abused benzo in the United States, it is not rare by any means of the imagination you fucking nigger. Ever gone in for a short surgery/procedure at a hospital and they gave you something to 'calm you down'? Yep, thats lorazepam

And no, you should not be hallucinating off lorazepam or any depressant for that matter. It is not a common side effect and the only time when ive heard of people experiencing diplopia on Ativan is when there is a good chance of a possible od. Check your sources better next time dumbass

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Old 2008-09-13, 18:49
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

Well done, you have yet to realise drugs effect people in different ways...

I still believe you can trip on HBWR but having tried many times with many methods from different suppliers and up to 15 seeds I have yet to experience anything other than a nasty body load and nausea. Guess it just doesnt work for me but I don't give people shit if they manage to trip and and I don't disbelieve people who say they have tripped on it.

I have managed to break through on straight leaf salvia, not extract and smoked. Sure it took a lot of salvia and a lot of hits but you don't need to smoke 20x or 100x to break through.

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2. Lol @ LSD/HBWR "cross tolerance"
I believe a number of halucogens are cross tolerant including Psyclobin, LSD, LSA, mescaline and a few others
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Old 2008-09-13, 19:18
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And no, you should not be hallucinating off lorazepam or any depressant for that matter. It is not a common side effect and the only time when ive heard of people experiencing diplopia on Ativan is when there is a good chance of a possible od. Check your sources better next time dumbass
i dont think he actually hallucinated, but i know what he means. its like your fucked up and your vision is just all sloppy and messed up, he thinks its a hallucination. ask BTO hes the one that first really brought it to my attention. i forget the exact phrasing but it was something like the ground shifting.
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Old 2008-09-13, 19:22
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...railing shards?
Guess you got me there JP

Correction: I've tried ALMOST every method. I've also never plugged it.
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i think the OP has like selective memory or sometin. Goto erowid.org

theres plenty of positive reviews for these substances
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Old 2008-09-13, 23:30
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

who didnt know all of this shit?

benzos are recreational if you like the "i dont give a fuck, im fucked up" feeling of them...

you can break through on just about any concentration of salvia given there is enough... a gram of leaf would work if you torched it...
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Old 2008-09-14, 20:32
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

Can we ban this dumbass for saying that Lorazepam makes you hallucinate in a "Lorazepam truth" thread?
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Old 2008-09-14, 20:36
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Default Re: Exposing the Totse lie about Lorazepam: It is actually good shit.

And it's another winning thread from this loser.
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