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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1
2008-09-13, 05:03
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Heroin
I have a stamp bag of heroin I got off a friend who bought a bundle of it. My friend shoots up and says it's very potent stuff.
I want to snort it and enjoy some pleasurable effects. I snorted a line (about 1/4 of the little bag) with my friend the other day thinking it wouldnt be too much and ended up throwing up 6 times and not being able to stand without feeling like throwing up again. I got the shakes and just felt completely shitty and weak.
Question is, how much of this should I do to experience a good heroin high, without throwing up everywhere. Quite frankly, I'm scared of even doing it again because I think it's way too powerful for me. Only reason I want to is because I ran out of oxy. Keep in mind that 40mg of oxy snorted gets me feeling very nice, very low tolerance.
Advice or suggestions ?
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# 2
2008-09-13, 05:17
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Re: Heroin
Eh, I'd imagine a 'stamp' would be a point of dope right? (.1 grams is typically what I get in my area, but they come in caps...little clear pill caps). If that is the case, and it's really good just a very small pinner line for someone with no tolerance will do the trick for sure. I've shot .25 gs of dope tonight. When I'm by myself I always get so fucked up that I puke up everything in my stomach. Once it's empty....ohhhhhh yeah it's on  . But I always empty my stomach of all food and liquid and can't eat or drink while fucked up. Be careful though not to do it too much. Getting hooked on heroin will be the worse mistake you'll ever make. |
# 3
2008-09-13, 05:29
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by extremeZ
Eh, I'd imagine a 'stamp' would be a point of dope right? (.1 grams is typically what I get in my area, but they come in caps...little clear pill caps). If that is the case, and it's really good just a very small pinner line for someone with no tolerance will do the trick for sure. I've shot .25 gs of dope tonight. When I'm by myself I always get so fucked up that I puke up everything in my stomach. Once it's empty....ohhhhhh yeah it's on . But I always empty my stomach of all food and liquid and can't eat or drink while fucked up. Be careful though not to do it too much. Getting hooked on heroin will be the worse mistake you'll ever make. |
Honestly I have no idea how much is in it. Maybe this picture will help.
http://i35.tinypic.com/24y7i3s.jpg
All the brown pretty much under the black logo on the stamp bag is the H.
So, it's normal to throw up every time you take heroin or do you always just take too much? I don't enjoy throwing up..
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# 4
2008-09-13, 05:33
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
Honestly I have no idea how much is in it. Maybe this picture will help.
http://i35.tinypic.com/24y7i3s.jpg
All the brown pretty much under the black logo on the stamp bag is the H.
So, it's normal to throw up every time you take heroin or do you always just take too much? I don't enjoy throwing up.. |
Damnit, do you really think I can see the dope in that? And yeah, when I do it I get blown, hard. I don't do it often though, but I'll be uncontrollably nodding my ass off. If I'm out with friends or social gathering I'll do smaller amounts, but alone I will get blown off my ass throwing up yeah. It's probably too much. But I can't tell shit by that pic. Lol...
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# 5
2008-09-13, 05:33
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Re: Heroin
For the first time, I would do a "matchhead". Thats a bump of dope the size of, well, a matchhead. Thinking about it I would probably do half of that. Wait 15-20 minutes and then redose with another half matchhead, maybe a whole, depending on how you feel. Stop when you feel high, don't go for the nod, not yet. Your first time you want a "taste", just enough to get your feet wet and experience the feeling of dope. Be very careful with this shit, you'll get addicted or possible die if you show no respect.
@ <--Put this much up your nose. Wait 15 mins, then redose if necessary. Stop when high.
Peace.
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# 6
2008-09-13, 05:38
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by extremeZ
Damnit, do you really think I can see the dope in that? And yeah, when I do it I get blown, hard. I don't do it often though, but I'll be uncontrollably nodding my ass off. If I'm out with friends or social gathering I'll do smaller amounts, but alone I will get blown off my ass throwing up yeah. It's probably too much. But I can't tell shit by that pic. Lol...
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Hmm, yeah. I couldnt really get a good shot of the actual H in the picture how,I tried. But basically the heroin covers up the baggy under the little amoco logo thing, that's what I'm trying to show.
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Originally Posted by The Doc
For the first time, I would do a "matchhead". Thats a bump of dope the size of, well, a matchhead. Thinking about it I would probably do half of that. Wait 15-20 minutes and then redose with another half matchhead, maybe a whole, depending on how you feel. Stop when you feel high, don't go for the nod, not yet. Your first time you want a "taste", just enough to get your feet wet and experience the feeling of dope. Be very careful with this shit, you'll get addicted or possible die if you show no respect.
Peace.
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So pretty much do small bumps until I get a good feeling going? I definetly took way too much yesterday then. I do probally 5 matcheads/bumps worth in a line all at once, so I was probally ODing a little?
And yeah I dont want to get addicted. Im not buying anymore after I finish this bag. It's just having it I gotta do it eventually, why not now when I have no oxy.
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# 7
2008-09-13, 05:40
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Re: Heroin
Alright, well i can't make it out but I don't particularly need to...is it tar or powder based? That would also make a pretty big difference in the potency so I can get an idea of what you're workin with.
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# 8
2008-09-13, 05:46
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by extremeZ
Alright, well i can't make it out but I don't particularly need to...is it tar or powder based? That would also make a pretty big difference in the potency so I can get an idea of what you're workin with.
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It's a very light brown color, which is why my camera shots are so reflective off of it. It's pure powder. When I took it out yesterday to make a line I didnt have to crush anything, just dump it out and snort. Although I noticided when I did crush it it turned kinda flakey.
My friend describes one bag as being as strong as 2.5-3 OC 80's.
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# 9
2008-09-13, 05:48
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
So pretty much do small bumps until I get a good feeling going?
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Yep. Thats about it. Just go slow and do small little matchhead-sized bumps until you feel warm and happy and stoned, then stop.
Peace.
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# 10
2008-09-13, 05:50
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
It's a very light brown color, which is why my camera shots are so reflective off of it. It's pure powder. When I took it out yesterday to make a line I didnt have to crush anything, just dump it out and snort. Although I noticided when I did crush it it turned kinda flakey.
My friend describes one bag as being as strong as 2.5-3 OC 80's.
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Yeah, that's probably true. Brown H is typically good, around here anyways although I got some pure white that's the fucking bomb, but it's typically the darker brown...nonetheless, that's not really important  Just do matchsized bumps as has been said, it will only take you 1-3 to get you where you want to be, wait 15 minutes inbetween(since it's good dope, it should kick in within that time frame).
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#11
2008-09-13, 10:00 |
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Re: Heroin
A warning to all those who want to try cocaine... Please, listen to your friends when they tell you not to do it. The mental addiction is fucking horrible. I'm sitting here crying and writing to my friends and family telling them how much I love them because I was affraid I was going to die, yet after this is all over I just feel like snorting another fucking line...
Back story, last Tuesday was the first time I tried cocaine. Me and a friend both put up $10 and got a "$20 bag" of coke, however much that is, I don't know. We split the bag equally, and it lasted me a good two days snorting 3 lines each day. After it was done I called up my friend and told him to call up his dealer and get me a $50 bag, which I have been doing roughly 3-4 lines a day since Wendsday, and I still have about 15 lines left in the bag, and it's good coke too (short lines get me fucked up).
Never in my life has any other drug made me want to do it so much. I always tell people, use in moderation, and I thought I could with coke but I couldn't. It's no fun sitting in your room by yourself with a lot of coke...
Writing this kinda helped me and I'm feeling a bit better. I want to just throw the rest of the bag down the toilet but just the thought of having it for whenever I want it doesn't allow me to.
Anyway, maybe this'll help someone, call me weak-minded, make fun of me, whatever, but I just needed to tell people and I don't have anyone to tell in my life.
Don't ever try heroin.
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# 12
2008-09-13, 15:50
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
i have a stamp bag of heroin i got off a friend who bought a bundle of it. My friend shoots up and says it's very potent stuff.
I want to snort it and enjoy some pleasurable effects. I snorted a line (about 1/4 of the little bag) with my friend the other day thinking it wouldnt be too much and ended up throwing up 6 times and not being able to stand without feeling like throwing up again. I got the shakes and just felt completely shitty and weak.
Question is, how much of this should i do to experience a good heroin high, without throwing up everywhere. Quite frankly, i'm scared of even doing it again because i think it's way too powerful for me. Only reason i want to is because i ran out of oxy. Keep in mind that 40mg of oxy snorted gets me feeling very nice, very low tolerance.
Advice or suggestions ?
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aren't you 14?
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#13
2008-09-13, 15:51 |
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Re: Heroin
Don't ever try heroin.
Just because you can't handle yourself or have no self control doesn't mean others don't. I've done it for 2 years, have only had minor withdrawals from which I detoxed myself from, and now don't do it more than twice a week.
But, if you're apparently like happyonehitter, don't do benzos, opiates, alcohol, cocaine products, or really any drug besides weed as they all can be very very nasty when you get hooked.
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#14
2008-09-13, 15:56 |
happyonehitter
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Re: Heroin
Just because you can't handle yourself or have no self control doesn't mean others don't. I've done it for 2 years, have only had minor withdrawals from which I detoxed myself from, and now don't do it more than twice a week.
But, if you're apparently like happyonehitter, don't do benzos, opiates, alcohol, cocaine products, or really any drug besides weed as they all can be very very nasty when you get hooked.
WTF are you talking about? I was quoting the OP from a thread he made where he was warning people never to do coke. He had a 3-4 lines a day 'addiction', so based on that I don't think he should be doing H.
And anyway, benzos, opiates, alcohol and coke can be very nasty when you get hooked.
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2008-09-13, 15:57 |
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Re: Heroin
WTF are you talking about? I was quoting the OP from a thread he made where he was warning people never to do coke. He had a 3-4 lines a day 'addiction', so based on that I don't think he should be doing H.
And anyway, benzos, opiates, alcohol and coke can be very nasty when you get hooked.
Yeah, I know they can be. Why do you think I said it? If you are more prone to addiction more than the average person, then you're right I would never touch heroin. I'm just saying, it can be used responsibly.
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#16
2008-09-13, 16:11 |
happyonehitter
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Re: Heroin
Yeah, I know they can be. Why do you think I said it? If you are more prone to addiction more than the average person, then you're right I would never touch heroin. I'm just saying, it can be used responsibly.
Yeah, I know it can be used responsibly. I was talking about the OP in particular though (not just a blanket statement for everyone to never do H), and the fact that he was 'addicted' to coke within a week of trying it. But where did you get that shit about me not being able to handle myself and having no self control?
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2008-09-13, 16:13 |
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Re: Heroin
Yeah, I know it can be used responsibly. I was talking about the OP in particular though (not just a blanket statement for everyone to never do H), and the fact that he was 'addicted' to coke within a week of trying it. But where did you get that shit about me not being able to handle myself and having no self control?
I see what you were referring to. He was talking about the horrible mental wds from cocaine but is now doing heroin...gotcha.
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#18
2008-09-13, 16:59 |
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Re: Heroin
Yeah, honestly the only drug I can honestly say I've been addicted to would be xanax. Those wds were terrible.
I havn't touched coke in over 2 months. The mental wds were too much for just a short 10 minute of happiness. Not worth it. I was also feeling pretty shitty about some things when I worte that..
But, yeah I agree I have aan addictive personality. But I usually tend to do things for a peroid of time and then quit them altogether.
I ended up doing a bump of the heroin and didnt throw up this time. I didn't feel it as much either. Maybe I'll try 3 soon.
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#19
2008-09-13, 17:01 |
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
Yeah, honestly the only drug I can honestly say I've been addicted to would be xanax. Those wds were terrible.
I havn't touched coke in over 2 months. The mental wds were too much for just a short 10 minute of happiness. Not worth it. I was also feeling pretty shitty about some things when I worte that..
But, yeah I agree I have aan addictive personality. But I usually tend to do things for a peroid of time and then quit them altogether.
I ended up doing a bump of the heroin and didnt throw up this time. I didn't feel it as much either. Maybe I'll try 3 soon.
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I agree. However, speed balling(cocaine and heroin) you know you don't come down at all!? |
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#20
2008-09-13, 17:54 |
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Re: Heroin
Dude its got to be pretty potent for one fucking stamp. What is the frequency of herion use in your life? I would never throw up from just 1/4th of a bag, this make me hate you for 2 reasons: Your a bitch and cant handel it, You might have good shit I want.
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# 21
2008-09-13, 19:35
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Re: Heroin
Heroin is bad news...I know too many people who have died from that shit.
Don't even do it.
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# 22
2008-09-13, 21:31
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Re: Heroin
i love these threads cause in a few weeks this kid is gonna be in here askin how to bang the shit.
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2008-09-13, 23:49
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
i love these threads cause in a few weeks this kid is gonna be in here askin how to bang the shit.
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Meh??
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# 24
2008-09-14, 01:43
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by the half unlit
Dude its got to be pretty potent for one fucking stamp. What is the frequency of herion use in your life? I would never throw up from just 1/4th of a bag, this make me hate you for 2 reasons: Your a bitch and cant handel it, You might have good shit I want.
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Well if you read my post you would have known it was my first time trying heroin. I have like 2/4 of a bag left, I plan on getting fucked up hardcore tonight. Hard day of work coming home to some relaxing heroin is the best.
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# 25
2008-09-14, 01:45
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
i love these threads cause in a few weeks this kid is gonna be in here askin how to bang the shit.
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I'll be honest with myself, you're probally right. I have no self control at all.
I'm gonna eat then do 3 bumps, probally the rest of the bag, then Idk what I'm gonna do tommorow.
Oh, and I already know how to bang it...so there wont be a thread about that specifically.
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# 26
2008-09-14, 01:46
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
Hard day of work coming home to some relaxing heroin is the best.
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Yeaaah....that's a great mindset to have after your first time with H.
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# 27
2008-09-14, 02:01
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by legituser
I'm an aspiring addict, yes?
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Originally Posted by legituser
I have no self control at all.
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"Aspiring addict" isn't the right way of saying it, that implies that you hope to be an addict. "Addict-to-be" is more accurate, seeing as the way you've described yourself, it looks like you will soon be one.
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Originally Posted by legituser
I work in a big restaurant and I'm always surounded by drug use since EVERYONE there does some sort of drug of choice. I can get anything I want.
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Or...if you know that you have no/little self-control, and you already acknowledge that addiction is a (highly) potential outcome, why don't you try not using such addictive drugs? And don't justify it on the basis that you're surrounded by drug use - those people aren't forcing you to do/take anything you don't want to.
I know that there's people who can use it responsibly, but you've even said that you have no self control. Why risk it? Is it really worth it?
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# 28
2008-09-14, 02:03
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Re: Heroin
Do your bumps tonight and be done with this stuff. Or maybe just throw it away seeing as you have an addictive personality. Remember how you felt throwing up after you did too much the first time? Well imaging it being much, much worse after you've been using for awhile and run out. Now you're sick, fiending, thoughts running through your head on how to get $$ for another fix. Not shitting for a long time, then suddenly you're pissing out your asshole. Oh, and don't forget the depression/anxiety that'll kick you in the ass too. Have your experience then walk away. Or you'll regret it.
Peace.
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# 29
2008-09-14, 02:06
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Re: Heroin
Mmmmm, I shot another dose again tonight, though I know I shouldn't have I was bored. Not as fucked up as last night but I'm feelin real good. What about you legit?
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# 30
2008-09-14, 02:19
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Re: Heroin
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Originally Posted by happyonehitter
"Aspiring addict" isn't the right way of saying it, that implies that you hope to be an addict. "Addict-to-be" is more accurate, seeing as the way you've described yourself, it looks like you will soon be one.
Or...if you know that you have no/little self-control, and you already acknowledge that addiction is a (highly) potential outcome, why don't you try not using such addictive drugs? And don't justify it on the basis that you're surrounded by drug use - those people aren't forcing you to do/take anything you don't want to.
I know that there's people who can use it responsibly, but you've even said that you have no self control. Why risk it? Is it really worth it?
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It basically comes down to: I like being high. I'm too bored sober all the time.
What "not so addictive drugs" are you referring too? Weed? No thanks. I get panic attacks and I dont enjoy the high. It seems the only highs I enjoy are the "addictive drugs". Even though I have friends who cant go a day without smoking pot aswell.
Yeah doc, once this bag is done I'm not gonna touch the stuff again or for a very long time.
Good shit extreme, glad you're feeling nice.  As for me, I'm still waiting for my food to cook. I guess I'm gonna do it in about 45 minutes, 11:00 here. I've learned not to eat while on opiates in the past.
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2008-09-14, 04:48 |
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Re: Heroin
Feeling good now
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