God and Mother Earth

[vazilizaitsev89]

This has puzzled for me for a long time. How are God and Mother Earth related?
The first commandment states that "thou shalt have no other god before me" or something like that, but Mother Earth (Gaia) is in Greek Mythology as a titan (may be wrong, but she's definitely not an olympian)

so that would be another god if christians say "mother earth"

I hope that makes sense

[BrokeProphet]

The correct translation is "have no other gods before me"

Exodus 20:3, 5
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. ... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

Numerous other passages exist that suggest there is more than the one God...below are but a few....

Genesis 1:26
And God said, let us make man in our image.

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, then man is become as one of us, to know good and evil.

Exodus 15:11
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods?

Exodus 18:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods.

Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
http:../../skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/gods.html

On that particular page you will find not only the verses that suggest more than one God, you will find in stark contrast the verses that imply only one God.

These and numerous other contradictions suggest the bible is full of shit.

----so to answer your question...

When it comes right down to it...God and Mother Earth are related in this way: They are both supernatural creations of man, designed to comfort the weak.

[ArmsMerchant]

Originally Posted by BrokeProphet

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When it comes right down to it...God and Mother Earth are related in this way: They are both supernatural creations of man, designed to comfort the weak.

Close--but your bias is showing. For one thing, in a sense, God = nature. There is nothing "supernatural" about nature. Nature is, by definition, natural.

God--being infinite by definition--is subject to many varying definitions, interpretations--"inventions," if you will.

"Comfort the weak"? Again, your superiority complex is showing . You have stated many times, implicitly and explicitly, that those who deny the existence of a reality beyond what the five gross senses can perceive are somehow stronger, smarter, better than those of us who are not so disabled.

Consider the Christian martyrs who faced death with equanimity. Nothing weak about them.

Read about St John of the Cross and tell me he was a weakling. Ditto Mother Teresa.

Granted, organized religon is more or less a con job. Granted, much of the Christian mythos is in place to empower the priesthood. Arguably, over the years, organized religion has done more harm than good-- although there is no proving that, one way or another. I think we agree on that.

But to deny the empowering nature of spirtuality is simply foolish, arrogant, and ultimately, pathetic.

[KikoSanchez]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

Close--but your bias is showing. For one thing, in a sense, God = nature. There is nothing "supernatural" about nature. Nature is, by definition, natural.

That is only one sense, and even in that sense "nature" is usually personified/anthropomorphized when saying 'god=nature', which is not what we mean we are speaking of the material universe/nature. Smells of a nasty case of equivocation.

[moonmeister]

What is the difference between the yin & the yang?
When the yang is in the yin & vice versa?

[CharChar]

Originally Posted by moonmeister

What is the difference between the yin & the yang?
When the yang is in the yin & vice versa?

Two opposite sides of a double headed coin. They look the same but will never face the same direction.

[Graemy]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

Close--but your bias is showing. For one thing, in a sense, God = nature. There is nothing "supernatural" about nature. Nature is, by definition, natural.

God--being infinite by definition--is subject to many varying definitions, interpretations--"inventions," if you will.

"Comfort the weak"? Again, your superiority complex is showing . You have stated many times, implicitly and explicitly, that those who deny the existence of a reality beyond what the five gross senses can perceive are somehow stronger, smarter, better than those of us who are not so disabled.

Consider the Christian martyrs who faced death with equanimity. Nothing weak about them.

Read about St John of the Cross and tell me he was a weakling. Ditto Mother Teresa.

Granted, organized religon is more or less a con job. Granted, much of the Christian mythos is in place to empower the priesthood. Arguably, over the years, organized religion has done more harm than good-- although there is no proving that, one way or another. I think we agree on that.

But to deny the empowering nature of spirtuality is simply foolish, arrogant, and ultimately, pathetic.

I'm not Brokeprophet, but I would like to state my points here.

Isn't your bias showing here? Believing in the empowerment of spirituality could lead to delusion. I'm not saying it does. But believing that god does something, or will do something for you is a notion of the weak. Why not go out and get it yourself. You have two options, pray for the promotion, or go out and prove that you are the best man for the promotion.

Who are you to say God = nature, then in the same post state that God is infinite? Or were you referring to god and mother nature to be the same thing? If so, then I take back my previous statement.

I don't think that it's that they aren't denying a reality beyond what we can see, but that they think reality can be altered to fit their individual needs, on their whim, without any work done. Much like a person would laugh at an adult who writes letters to Santa, or praying for world peace, but not doing anything about it. Sort of like wishing or dreaming for something, without trying to do something about it. At least, why I think they're weak. I know many people who are in FCA(Fellowship of Christian Athletes), they don't stop practicing because they think God will help them. To me, they aren't weak. Their reason's for being Christian are varied, but they derive confidence from themselves and practice as hard as they can.

[negz]

Earth is a creation like everything else. It's not a "mother." The "mother" is God herself.