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| Conspiracy! This forum is about the unexplained, whether it's political hidden agendas, secret societies, clandestine operations, alien life, political assasinations, CIA trickery, Masonic sub-plots, and other bits of Truth. |
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# 1

2008-09-12, 06:05
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Anyone interested in a...
I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a masonic handbook. I've searched the web like ebay and other places like that, you can't find them anywhere. This book was issued in 1932 (vintage  ), has every degree written in it, up to the 33rd degree(Even I'm not actually supposed to have it). It's a very rare book; this is the ultimate handbook that a mason receives; it's probably thicker than a bible. I'm selling it for symbolic purposes, as many of you know I'm a Freemason (was...you never really leave the fraternity but I want nothing to do with them). I'm not sure that I can sell it on ebay or other places like that, and I strongly don't want to do this due to possible repercussions so I decided to try here first. I'll provide some pictures etc to prove that A it is everything I'm saying it is, and B this is completely legit. In fact I'm thinking I've posted pics here before...all I've got access to right now is a crappy phone cam. But I'm just wondering if anyone would be interested in purchasing it. When you buy these things brand new they cost a few hundred dollars, but I'm not asking anywhere near that; I don't really need the money, but I can't just give it away either so...let me know if you're interested. Btw it's in perfect condition...there's no bent pages, no scuffs on it...it is in the same condition it was in 1932.
Edit: And I've already found an apparent buyer in IRC for $75 USD so, unless he falls through (which is a possibility), I've probably already got it sold. But I'll still ask here if anyone would possibly be interested.
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# 3

2008-09-12, 08:24
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
It also has the york rite rituals, initiations etc in there. I've been reading the knights templar and it's various levels. It's radically different than anything I've ever practiced; nothing like what I'd have ever thought. Now I'd like to get into the order myself...I have the qualifications  and there's a temple close.
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# 4

2008-09-12, 09:49
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I'd be willing to give you some money for it, but I'm not sure how we could make the transfer.
Anyway, if you really want to spite the fraternity why not make good quality scans of every page and post them on the Internet for everyone to read and enjoy, you could upload it to ThePirateBay or whatever. 
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# 5

2008-09-12, 14:10
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by Chimro
Anyway, if you really want to spite the fraternity why not make good quality scans of every page and post them on the Internet for everyone to read and enjoy, you could upload it to ThePirateBay or whatever. 
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this.
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# 6

2008-09-12, 19:30
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
sell the book but not before scanning every page. distribute ebook for free
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# 7

2008-09-12, 20:01
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by pneubea
sell the book but not before scanning every page. distribute ebook for free
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Not gonna happen. In the event that I don't sell it, or do even I'm not going to destroy such a valuable book so that I can distribute it online. It's not that I don't particularly want to...but it's a very thick book and scanning it would most certainly damage the spine etc. Besides, I don't have the time to scan 2000 pages. :\
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# 8

2008-09-12, 20:04
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by pneubea
sell the book but not before scanning every page. distribute ebook for free
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Not gonna happen. In the event that I don't sell it, or do even I'm not going to destroy such a valuable book so that I can distribute it online. It's not that I don't particularly want to...but it's a very thick book and scanning it would most certainly damage the spine etc. Besides, I don't have the time to scan 2000 pages. :\
The guy in IRC was drunk and apparently bull shitting, but if anyone can find a fair way to do this I'll let it go for 50 but you pay shipping. If not, after reading the york rite section I really wouldn't mind keeping it, but I know most of the information in here like the back of my hand so meh...besides, I've got a newer ritual (only the first 3 degrees though...and that one costed me 200 bucks new lol)
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# 9

2008-09-12, 22:52
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by extremeZ
Not gonna happen. In the event that I don't sell it, or do even I'm not going to destroy such a valuable book so that I can distribute it online. It's not that I don't particularly want to...but it's a very thick book and scanning it would most certainly damage the spine etc. Besides, I don't have the time to scan 2000 pages. :\
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You can just take high-resolution pictures of each page then. It's the only way to ensure the book survives forever!
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# 10

2008-09-13, 03:32
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
i might be interested, elaborate a little more whats in it. I just want a general idea, i mean why is it worth my 50 bucks ya know?
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#11
 2008-09-13, 03:48
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by droppinds
i might be interested, elaborate a little more whats in it. I just want a general idea, i mean why is it worth my 50 bucks ya know?
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It's got everything in it that you'd see in a masonic temple, a knight's Templar temple, order of Malta etc. It's got a lot of interesting shit in it, but it's a good investment just because the book it's self is worth much much more than 50 bucks. 500-1000 would probably be pretty conservative, a new book will run you 2000 and this is vintage :p. And, only a 33rd degree mason can even get this book (it's got all degrees including the 33rd that explains what that person would go through through all degrees in all rites). It's a nice chunk of history. It can really take you back through history, and despite the fact that the knight's Templar isn't a group of wealthy banker knights (I don't think :p) the rituals according to the book actually haven't changed (meeting wise). Very interesting reads. If you'd like to learn a lot of info about the organizations and have a vintage book on it, it's a good book to have. I just really don't want it anymore. Whenever I see the damn book or the symbol I get kinda pissed off  .
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#12
 2008-09-13, 04:02
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cryptome.org cryptogon.com
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Don't fuck with them freemasons, they will go after your family.
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#13
 2008-09-13, 04:05
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by Gold n Green
Don't fuck with them freemasons, they will go after your family.
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No, they won't. Lol. People and their retarded beliefs about freemasons really make me lol...if you weren't trolling/being sarcastic.
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#14
 2008-09-13, 17:05
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Hmmm... This is an extremely interesting find, and it sounds like a pretty good deal. I'm very interested in this one. Is there any chance you could post a few more pictures, preferably with a better camera?
Also, what sort of payment would you accept? I've got a Paypal with money in it, but other than that, I don't really have a way.
This book looks awesome, and you're right: I can't find another one anywhere else.
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#15
 2008-09-13, 22:41
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Hmmm... This is an extremely interesting find, and it sounds like a pretty good deal. I'm very interested in this one. Is there any chance you could post a few more pictures, preferably with a better camera?
For those interested in buying it, yeah I'll do that. I have no way locally of getting rid of it, ebay will remove it (I've tried), yeah I could do that. I've got a verified paypal account that you could send it to (that way you know I'm not bullshitting), yeah. I won't be on tonight tho so we can talk tomorrow if you're interested.
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#16
 2008-09-14, 04:55
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
For those interested in buying it, yeah I'll do that. I have no way locally of getting rid of it, ebay will remove it (I've tried), yeah I could do that. I've got a verified paypal account that you could send it to (that way you know I'm not bullshitting), yeah. I won't be on tonight tho so we can talk tomorrow if you're interested.
Sounds good. If possible, please send me some more pics. Also, you said this book is from 1932, correct? Do you know of any of the history of the book or what it's been doing for the past 3/4 of a century? How did you acquire it? I'm sorry if these are strange questions, but for something like this, I'm very interested in the history of the book, if there is much of a history at all.
If you'd rather not post things here, you can drop me a note at 100.percent.dude[*AT*]gmail.com. If you don't want to tell me how you acquired the book, that's fine too. I understand that it might be a sensitive matter.
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#17
 2008-09-14, 09:22
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run while you can ----->
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
scan + upload, then sell to someone that will pay $1-2k for it :)
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#18
 2008-09-16, 01:48
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I have no way locally of getting rid of it, ebay will remove it (I've tried)...
Why won't ebay let you sell a book?
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#19
 2008-09-21, 00:14
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Yeah, that's definitely something I'd buy if you still have it. How much did you want for it, and what country are you in?
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#20
 2008-09-21, 08:26
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Why won't ebay let you sell a book?
ebay must be CONTROLLED BY THE MASONS IT'S A FUCKING CONSPIRACY
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#21
 2008-09-21, 21:48
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I was thinking about buying it, but it looks like you already sold it.
So I asked Google:
http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/
Is This (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/ward_MM_handbookfr.html)the book?
You said it was like 2000 pages, so I assume it contains all the books in this series if this is indeed the same series you're talking about.
That would be pretty cool to own the actual copy tho.
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#22
 2008-09-25, 00:04
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by Vanhalla
I was thinking about buying it, but it looks like you already sold it.
So I asked Google:
http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/
Is This (http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/ward_MM_handbookfr.html)the book?
You said it was like 2000 pages, so I assume it contains all the books in this series if this is indeed the same series you're talking about.
That would be pretty cool to own the actual copy tho.
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Nope, that's the book you get when you reach the 3rd degree; my book is what you get when you reach the 33rd. I haven't sold it either, if anyone wants it they can have it for 50 bucks.
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#23
 2008-09-25, 01:15
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
this is a serious question. Does it have shit about like conquering the world and what not?
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#24
 2008-09-25, 02:02
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Pink P&ther 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Scan a chapter or two please.
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#25
 2008-09-25, 09:24
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
For those interested in buying it, yeah I'll do that. I have no way locally of getting rid of it, ebay will remove it (I've tried), yeah I could do that. I've got a verified paypal account that you could send it to (that way you know I'm not bullshitting), yeah. I won't be on tonight tho so we can talk tomorrow if you're interested.
Let me buy it
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#26
 2008-09-27, 01:41
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escape_reality 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
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Originally Posted by Gold n Green
Don't fuck with them freemasons, they will go after your family.
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True, but this has absolutly nothing secret in it, that you wont find on the web, published by themselves
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#27
 2008-09-27, 01:44
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escape_reality 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
alouth, this might be of interest to me, Photograph the Contents
I might be willing to pay $600
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#28
 2008-10-02, 07:21
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Declan 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Seriously. PUT THIS ON THE INTERNET. The internet equals freedom and basically a place where something, once put, will NEVER leave. It's essentially immortality for information. The fucking NSA can't even get rid of something once it's been put on the web sometimes, because it's probably been spread around too much, downloaded and transferred to too many offline storage places. Something like this is very valuable and is something that would be great to have available to the general public, for historical reasons if nothing else. Hell, I'd buy it myself if I had more than $4 to my name at the moment.
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#29
 2008-10-02, 07:57
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Why don't one of you people telling him to scan it, buy it and then scan it yourself?
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#30
 2008-10-02, 22:25
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Nope, that's the book you get when you reach the 3rd degree; my book is what you get when you reach the 33rd. I haven't sold it either, if anyone wants it they can have it for 50 bucks.
I'm still extremely interested in this, please drop me a line at 100.percent.dude((AT))gmail.com
I would really appreciate a few more photos, preferably with your current screen name and the date, if you've got access to a camera.
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#31
 2008-10-03, 16:42
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I would also be interested, but would like to see some pics. Please msg me.
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#32
 2008-10-06, 22:09
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GordonFreemen 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
cva29@hotmail.com
Drop me a line, I'm also interested.
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#33
 2008-10-10, 01:52
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
Is this sold or what??
BUMP
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#34
 2008-10-13, 22:23
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pneubea 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I have $170 right now in my Paypal account, are you selling or what?
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#35
 2008-10-14, 02:53
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
He's not selling... He has yet to email any of us, this is his SICK AMUSEMENT.
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#36
 2008-10-14, 20:52
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Davidius_Green 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I am highly interested in this book. Would be an honor to have it with my collection!
tuns_of_fun@msn.com is my email. You can email me or IM me thru MSN.
I got the funds in my paypal as we speak, verified primier too.
Peace.
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#37
 2008-10-15, 23:52
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pneubea 
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Re: Anyone interested in a...
I am highly interested in this book. Would be an honor to have it with my collection!
[####]tuns_of_fun@msn.com[/####] is my ####. You can #### me or IM me thru MSN.
I got the funds in my paypal as we speak, verified primier too.
Peace.
just to add that i too am verified and have been for over 3 years!
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