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Old 2008-09-09, 05:29
Gallows Gallows is offline
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Does anyone have any experience with it? I saw some on eBay for a great price; so, my curiosity is aroused. I have read the Erowid pages on it, but I would like to read some first hand Totse experiences. Thanks.
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Old 2008-09-09, 05:58
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Never actually heard of it before, how much per dose is the seller asking? I read a little bit on it and seems kind of pointless...by the time you buy the shit, get your hands on some BZP (not sure how hard that would be, but I'd imagine its not too common) it would be easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy whatever street drugs you want and mix & match them if you feel like it to get the desired effect...side effects of this shit don't look to fun either. I'd like to hear some stories about the stuff if anyone has any though too..
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Old 2008-09-09, 07:30
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In NZ, this stuff (along with BZP and a few other piprazines) were legal until a few months back.

I've never enjoyed any of the piprazines particularly, really dirty feeling buzz, and a nasty as hell come down. Other people I'm friends with have had better experiences on it, but it's really horriblew the day after regardless.

I'd say give it a try, but not if it's gonna cost a lot to get it. Also, I'm pretty sure it's illegal in most civilized places nowadays, how can you get it on Ebay?

Maybe sell it to stupid people?
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Old 2008-09-09, 19:53
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Alot of people seem to like it, yet some seem to hate it. It was a Schedule 1 drug for a year in the US, however, the emergency rating expired and it is now unscheduled. What confuses me most about TFMPP is that some say it is similar to ecstasy yet some say it is like a LSD. I can not imagine going to a rave while on something similar to LSD. That seems too scary. Haha.
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Old 2008-09-09, 19:59
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Never actually heard of it before, how much per dose is the seller asking? I read a little bit on it and seems kind of pointless...by the time you buy the shit, get your hands on some BZP (not sure how hard that would be, but I'd imagine its not too common) it would be easier (and probably cheaper) to just buy whatever street drugs you want and mix & match them if you feel like it to get the desired effect...side effects of this shit don't look to fun either. I'd like to hear some stories about the stuff if anyone has any though too..
The seller is asking $7 per gram I believe shipping included. I believe one dose is one gram. It was kind of hard to decipher; it's illegal to sell on eBay; so, he had it worded in a weird way with the description capitals spelling TFMPP let me see if I can find the listing.

Here it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330256051021

How great is that description?

"This is an auction for one unit of Trinity For Multi Practise Pencil with +H and CL designs. One unit of this pencil weighs one gram. Yes, its great."

Haha.
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Old 2008-09-09, 20:05
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFMPP:

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The dosage commonly used when combined with BZP for "ecstasy-like effects" is between 30 and 100 mg, while higher doses of TFMPP alone cause mildly hallucinogenic effects at around 100–250mg; however, higher doses can cause a range of side effects including migraine headaches, muscle aches, nausea and vomiting, as well as a come-down syndrome characterised by insomnia, loss of appetite, and headache; these side effects tend to discourage abuse of TFMPP.
So you'll get more like 5 doses out of your gram.
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Old 2008-09-09, 22:04
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TFMPP is really more psychedelic than BZP. I did a pretty high dose of around 350 mg and 100 mg of BZP and had a pretty hard trip. It has a horrible comedown and you may get nauseous and puke. I had slight visuals but nothing spectacular, its really more of a head trip and after the whole experience I learned a lot. Its probably more similar to LSD than to MDMA but its does give you enhanced tactile sensations similar to MDMA.
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Old 2008-09-10, 12:43
killallthewhiteman killallthewhiteman is offline
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^^

its not psychadelic at all mate, diccasciative.. maybe ever so slightly.

if u read up youl notice Tfmpp is uselss in comparison to when its combined with BZP, which is why its never sold by itself.
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Old 2008-09-10, 16:06
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piperazines are not fun at all..
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Old 2008-09-10, 21:02
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and supposing he just sends you a very expensive pencil???
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Old 2008-09-11, 01:53
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I can not imagine going to a rave while on something similar to LSD. That seems too scary. Haha.
Try it, it's fun to be at a rave on LSD. Ravers are always eatin' acid, maybe not as much as they eat ecstasy but it is popular.
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