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Old 2008-09-08, 03:47
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Question What's the etiquette on selling to friends...

No, I'm not talking about weed. I would gladly hook my friends up with dank tree all day, every day. I'm talking about the other good stuff.

Ecstasy, Cocaine, oxycontin, etc. What do you do when you sell to friends? I'm talking about friends, not drug buddies. If you don't know the difference then you obviously haven't been doing drugs long enough. And what I mean by, "what do you do" is once they start continually buying more and start to get addicted do you say something? Do you refuse to sell to them? Do you say nothing and make mad profit?

I mean what is the general etiquette on this situation. If it starts to become apparently obvious or if their just starting to look haggard, I'll tell them whats up. Maybe tell them to slow down or something. However after that I believe that it's on them. I'm their friend not their fucking babysitter. I try to know my shit and I hope my friends do the same. I don't think I'd ever stop selling it to them. If they were going to get it anyways then I might as well make some money and besides I can at least know their not ingesting garbage. Am I an asshole?

Are you guys more intrusive, more laid back? What's BLTC's views on this subject?

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Old 2008-09-08, 03:51
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Money is money, business is business.

I've stopped selling to a couple of my freinds when I know that they have gone way beyond the point of controlling themselves and their addictions, but thats few and far between. As you said, your not their babysitter and its their responsibility to control themselves, not yours.

And the way I look at it, if they aint scoring off me, there just going to go to somebody else. Atleast I know there getting good shit at good prices. Why let good money go to waste?
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Old 2008-09-08, 03:52
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Oxycotton
its called oxycontin...... from urbandictonary: "Drug lords have found a brilliant way to get Americans of all ages addicted to oxycotton; spin it into threads and use it to manufacture comfortable shirts and blouses! "


also, their your friends, give them a deal id suppose? its not all that difficult to figure out. but i definitly wouldnt sell some of my closest friends certain drugs. i wouldnt want to end up getting them addicted/killed by anything.

also, whats wrong with giving out some free/no profit 2 u once in a while?
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Old 2008-09-08, 03:57
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Why let good money go to waste?
Word.

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its called oxycontin..

also, their your friends, give them a deal id suppose? its not all that difficult to figure out. but i definitly wouldnt sell some of my closest friends certain drugs. i wouldnt want to end up getting them addicted/killed by anything.

also, whats wrong with giving out some free/no profit 2 u once in a while?
Thanks for the typo heads up. Oh and I hook it up. Did I say I don't?

Don't just assume I'm a thieving Jew.
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Old 2008-09-08, 03:57
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Default Re: What's the etiquette on selling to friends...

the general rule of thumb was no introducing people to new things, works the best...

you should have a gauge on what your friends can and cannot handle. don't give em anything they'd be stupid with...
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Old 2008-09-08, 03:58
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the general rule of thumb was no introducing people to new things, works the best...

you should have a gauge on what your friends can and cannot handle. don't give em anything they'd be stupid with...
Good fucking call. I should stop breaking that rule of thumb.
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Old 2008-09-08, 03:58
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Cocaine, Oxycontin

Just dont, trust me.
Horrible Horrible things will happen.

I am not kidding. Never get (serious)girlfriends or good friends to get mixed up with drug buying from you.

Above all, it depends on the personality, and how well you know the person. Women tend to become more of an awkwardness and, at times, serious inconvenience when involved with drugs.

I would never sell coke, or opiates to a friend. EVER.

To blow a line here and there is fine. But to, at the same time, be a source(seller) for the drug, is entirely different.
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Old 2008-09-08, 04:00
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Thanks for the typo heads up.
np lol. just thought id say it before somebody else did.


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Don't just assume I'm a thieving Jew.
didnt mean it like that, just didnt know if thats what youd be doing or not. there are certain "semi-friends" id sell to for waaaaayyy overpriced.


also, your closest friends are a great thing to have. you dont want to have them end up being a homeless junkie, and feel guilty for the rest of your life. dont sell them anything they cant handle
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Old 2008-09-08, 08:19
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This is why I could never sell. I am way too nice, and honest about prices, even on weed, and when addiction rears it's head, I am the first motherfucker saying hey woah wait you gotta chill bro
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Old 2008-09-08, 08:59
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Same fucking price as all the other ones pay. Reject everytime if they sit there and beg or try to hassle...I really only consider about 3 people my true homeboys, if they wanna get high I'll just do it with em but if they want some personal maybeee a little cheaper and thats if Im doing good, yeah they can have the better selection outta the bag.

True friends shouldn't beg or bitch about it to you and if they do why the fuck would you wanna consider some whiney punk person like that a friend? By friends I mean ones that are on your side no matter what, that you known since you were in middle school and they can relate with you. People that you know, just shake hands with say whatsup too, kick it with here and there, I don't consider friends they just someone I know.

And if 1 of my friends lets an addiction get the best of them and they arent being able to support themselves, oh well that's there life if they ask for help cleaning up I'd try to help otherwise they best have $$ everytime

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Old 2008-09-08, 09:55
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My mate sells pills to me for the same price that he gets them and I get a normal weight for the proper price the rare times I get speed hooked up though him. I do the same for any of my friends as well.

I'd expect him to say something to me if he thought I was using to much. He was my friend before he was my dealer.
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Old 2008-09-08, 13:06
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I avoid selling to friends but put it simply don't stitch them. Don't weigh bags short, don't cut things and don't sell them bunk pills, taking a cut however is all fair game in my eyes as long as you ask first and usually if they are good friends they will offer or share without having to ask anyway. I also don't like selling or giving drugs to friends if I know they have no experience with those drugs or drugs in general or have had past negative experiences such as addiction, that or if their bird is likely to rip my balls off if they find out. On the other hand if they are being little bitches, beg, nag and don't share when I'm out myself or have stolen from me or tried to stitch me in the past then Its all fair game.
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Old 2008-09-08, 14:15
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If they start to offer there video games, DVDs, pets, mouth/anal virginity, then you KNOW you have a problem.
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Old 2008-09-08, 14:40
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If they start to offer there video games, DVDs, pets, mouth/anal virginity, then you KNOW you have a problem.
Meh. Not really. I just got rid of my ps2 after watching the fucker collect dust for six months. If I can cop some drugs for it, why not? I got pretty much what I paid for it the year before too.
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Old 2008-09-08, 14:47
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Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions.
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Old 2008-09-08, 15:26
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its called oxycontin...... from urbandictonary: "Drug lords have found a brilliant way to get Americans of all ages addicted to oxycotton; spin it into threads and use it to manufacture comfortable shirts and blouses! "


also, their your friends, give them a deal id suppose? its not all that difficult to figure out. but i definitly wouldnt sell some of my closest friends certain drugs. i wouldnt want to end up getting them addicted/killed by anything.

also, whats wrong with giving out some free/no profit 2 u once in a while?
ahem...
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Old 2008-09-08, 15:47
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This is why I could never sell. I am way too nice, and honest about prices, even on weed, and when addiction rears it's head, I am the first motherfucker saying hey woah wait you gotta chill bro
Yeah, my friends have pretty much been experiencing a going out of business sale, if you will.

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And if 1 of my friends lets an addiction get the best of them and they arent being able to support themselves, oh well that's there life if they ask for help cleaning up I'd try to help otherwise they best have $$ everytime
Money is pretty nice.

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If they start to offer there video games, DVDs, pets, mouth/anal virginity, then you KNOW you have a problem.
Maybe if they threw in a combo of all four, I don't really want to trade their cat for some pills.

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I avoid selling to friends but put it simply don't stitch them. Don't weigh bags short, don't cut things and don't sell them bunk pills, taking a cut however is all fair game in my eyes as long as you ask first and usually if they are good friends they will offer or share without having to ask anyway. I also don't like selling or giving drugs to friends if I know they have no experience with those drugs or drugs in general or have had past negative experiences such as addiction, that or if their bird is likely to rip my balls off if they find out. On the other hand if they are being little bitches, beg, nag and don't share when I'm out myself or have stolen from me or tried to stitch me in the past then Its all fair game.
I maintain a no bitching policy. I'm glad you do too. But no I never cut them short. That wouldn't be cool.

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Meh. Not really. I just got rid of my ps2 after watching the fucker collect dust for six months. If I can cop some drugs for it, why not? I got pretty much what I paid for it the year before too.
Yeah, I've traded about three ps2's. Pretty much their only function nowadays is to transmute into narcotics.

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ahem...
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Old 2008-09-08, 15:54
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Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions.
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Old 2008-09-08, 15:56
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Friend or no friend I don't [well didn't] do a felony for someone for free. Except for those closest to me - like a GF or something. Those got things at cost.

And next time, make it hypothetical. Selling drugs is illegal remember...
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Old 2008-09-08, 16:00
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Friend or no friend I don't [well didn't] do a felony for someone for free. Except for those closest to me - like a GF or something. Those got things at cost.

And next time, make it hypothetical. Selling drugs is illegal remember...
Meta, I think we all know this is entirely hypothetical. I would never do such a thing. Purely information.
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Old 2008-09-08, 23:55
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ahem...
wow. i said their instead of they're or they are. big deal

he said oxycotton instead of oxycontin, i was just letting him know the real spelling/real word.
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Old 2008-09-09, 05:04
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i dont think i could ever bring myself to deal anything addicting... seen family members lives go all to shit through benzos, opiates, meth, and heroin...

i hardly ever deal anyways, i try to have some standards... no shifty fucking packaging, a set product for a set price, show up on time, and none of the general dealer bullshit to try and rip people off... a friend asked me about some acid i had that he wanted "are they double dipped or tripple dipped or what?" he asked... sure i probably could have gotten more money by lieing, but i just told him all that shit about double stacked/dipped/whatever the fuck was bullshit... in the end, i had money, and he had a nice trip..

i hate fucking shifty packaging... i was once sold several hits of lsd in a napkin... who the fuck uses a napkin?
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Old 2008-09-09, 05:31
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Above all, make sure not to front anything, ever. If someone comes to you just asking for credit, be prepared with a sign that says "STORE'S CLOSED".

This is only if you care about not getting paid back in a timely manner. I've seen it strain friendships.
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Old 2008-09-09, 10:27
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i hate fucking shifty packaging... i was once sold several hits of lsd in a napkin... who the fuck uses a napkin?
That as well, it doesn't take much effort to get some decent quality baggies or a nice clean sheet of silver foil, some dealers just take the piss.

And same as the guy above said, no credit even to friends. Two close friends I lost who owed me increasing amounts of money through fronting them. I got my money in the end but lost my friends for it.
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Old 2008-09-09, 13:39
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my friends who sell have always been real cool about this. they stopped sellin me xanax when it was obvious i didn't know what the fuck was going on for a while.
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Old 2008-09-09, 14:29
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My main dealer is my best friend. He usually only sells weed but from time to time he gets ahold of other drugs. His views are, he doesn't mind selling me or our other mutual friends oxy or other pharms and coke he doesn't want to hook us up with (doesn't bother me I have no real urge to try coke). Ecstasy on the other hand is tricky. He doesn't like to hook it up but he will if he can get it or if he heard they were good pills.

It might seem like some backwards rules but they are his and I don't bother him about it because he is my homie and I'm still happy enough smokin the herb.

Myself personally, I don't really sell but if I do come across something to sell I only sell to friends (or people they know and can trust). My views are to keep my friends educated on what I'm giving them so they have some clue as to whats gonna happen. I've really only sold various pharms and such but usually when I make a deal I got to tell them some basic things to know before taking them and all that. I don't know if it bugs anyone or not but it makes myself feel better if I know they aren't gonna flip or have some bad reaction or go do stupid shit which will kill them (mixing pills and booze for example).
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Old 2008-09-09, 14:43
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i hate fucking shifty packaging... i was once sold several hits of lsd in a napkin... who the fuck uses a napkin?
oh man, i've gotten some fucked up packaging in my day...

got an 8 ball once (solid piece) wrapped in a receipt with a rubber band around it.

half ounce of weed in the bottom ripped off corner of a mcdonald's bag.

etc. etc.
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Old 2008-09-09, 15:08
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oh man, i've gotten some fucked up packaging in my day..
i used to get bundles wrapped in a AA/NA meeting schedule...
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Old 2008-09-09, 16:01
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i used to get bundles wrapped in a AA/NA meeting schedule...
was that just a coincidence, or was your dealer trying to hint at something?
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Old 2008-09-09, 16:06
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was that just a coincidence, or was your dealer trying to hint at something?
he used to do it to everyone that bought bundles, claimed it reduced his guilt. super wtf moment..
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Old 2008-09-09, 19:48
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If i were you dude, I would never give ecstasy, cocaine, or any hard drug to my friends. Drug buddies are different.

But when it comes to friends i've only given them, beer, weed, cigs, and shrooms.

The proper ettiquite is to give less and less of that hard crap unless you're dosing with them, then give them your dose. And remind them to not get hooked and do this responsibly.
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he used to do it to everyone that bought bundles, claimed it reduced his guilt. super wtf moment..

Hahahahaahahahaha. What a fag.



That's pretty funny though.
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If I was selling to my friends it would only be marijuana.
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give deals to the people who give you deals.

make money off the junkies & the people who don't hook you up.
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Old 2008-09-10, 05:52
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If i were you dude, I would never give ecstasy, cocaine, or any hard drug to my friends. Drug buddies are different.

But when it comes to friends i've only given them, beer, weed, cigs, and shrooms.

The proper ettiquite is to give less and less of that hard crap unless you're dosing with them, then give them your dose. And remind them to not get hooked and do this responsibly.
MDMA is NOT a hard drug you fucking noob. The meth that people put in the pills, however, IS a hard drug.
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Old 2008-09-10, 13:08
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when i first started off my own friend sold me bunk weed, god knows why he did it he could of scammed other people who werent his friends much easier.
im stuck with this problem that im fearfull that my friends will sell me out, with a little amount of pressure people give up dealers and although i dont deal i create, and if i created and decided to sell i would never sell to a mate, not because i dont like them enough but i dont want problems to arise if something happens. if i bought mj id share and sell but if i grew the shit out the back i would definetely only share and not sell
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Old 2008-09-11, 18:21
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MDMA is NOT a hard drug you fucking noob. The meth that people put in the pills, however, IS a hard drug.
he said ecstasy not MDMA, you stupid noob. and it´s also about how you define a hard drug.

edit: "ecstasy tablets are notoriously impure, often containing chemicals other than MDMA."
just so that nobody reads the entry wrong.
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Old 2008-09-11, 20:31
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when i first started off my own friend sold me bunk weed, god knows why he did it he could of scammed other people who werent his friends much easier.
Iv probably been stitched more by friends or workmates as people I thought I should be able to trust because of the positions we were in. They don't last very long as friends, but it makes me wonder why they think they can get away with it or why they would do it, If you buy of someone you hardly know you might expect it but not off someone you do when you are likely to see them, work with them and deal with them on a regular basis.
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Old 2008-09-11, 20:42
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he said ecstasy not MDMA, you stupid noob. and it´s also about how you define a hard drug.

edit: "ecstasy tablets are notoriously impure, often containing chemicals other than MDMA."
just so that nobody reads the entry wrong.
Did you even fucking bother to read my post, or did you see something you thought was wrong and immediately posted your inane bullshit? Reread the fucking post.
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I hook friends up with oxy at cost. It wouldn't seem right to make money off it. If shit started going south for any of them, I'd bring it up casually. None of them are real into it, and I'm not exactly one to preach. Never had that issue, though.
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I hook friends up with oxy at cost. It wouldn't seem right to make money off it. If shit started going south for any of them, I'd bring it up casually. None of them are real into it, and I'm not exactly one to preach. Never had that issue, though.



I have a friend that hooked me up with oxy at cost, and it got to the point where he was dosing all day every day. I helped him kick his habit, and I feel damn good for it. Then again, I AM one to preach.

Ya know, my mother always told me I would grow up to be a preacher, and I guess she was right, but instead of preaching the word of god, I am preaching drug safety.


Much better IMHO.
 

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