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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-09-07, 20:46
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hypno 
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Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
You know every time i smoke i have the idea just to go all out and take it to a new level, but every time i get up there i just lose the will to take another hit. You know just unable to do it.
Is this the limit? Or if you ate say an oz in 3 or 4 brownies at once would you get higher than you could from smoking or would you just feel really shitty and end up throwing up?
There's no limit to how much thc can be in your bloodstream untill you hit the deadly 100%, lol. And then im sure you could cram some more in.
I know you're not supposed to be able to od on weed, but ill research that right now because im sure it could happen
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#2
 2008-09-07, 20:48
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
an ounce would probably be lethal...
if you wanna get seriously fucked up make brownies out of a half and eat em all...youll probably get really nervous so keep benzos on hand and a sitter...id say its impossible to die from smoking weed...well i guess not impossible, but a million times more likely to die from eating weed...and thats still probably a very small chance.
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#3
 2008-09-07, 20:53
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
If "overdose" means "enough to make you uncomfortable" then the answer is yes. Note that people suffer from alcohol overdoses all the time but don't necessarily die from them. One of the signs of alcohol overdose is vomiting. A lethal dose of marijuana would be at a ratio of of 1:40000. That means you would need to injest 40000 times the amount of marijuana that it would take to get you high. The lethal ratio for alcohol is between 1:4 and 1:10
If "overdose" means enough to kill you, the following information, with links to references can be found at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/mj_overdose.htm
According to which US Government authority you want to believe, the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds, consumed all within 15 minutes.
okay so clearly death is not an issue unless you have dirty weed. So the only limit im seeing is how much you can physically make yourself smoke. So eating seems like the logical route to take it up a notch!
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#4
 2008-09-07, 21:02
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
If it's weed you will get higher to a point. Eventually you will just fall asleep.
Although it is nice to wake up with a pipe in your hand, and then blaze up.
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#5
 2008-09-07, 21:02
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around
1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce
death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as
much marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied
marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would
theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within
about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.
Hmmm ...
0.9*20,000=18,000g or 18 kg ..
=40 pounds ..
or 80 pounds with the 1:40,000 ratio
Still a shitload but very dodgy maths there..
Although, 80 pounds = 1280 ounces so they coulda gotten confused between the two..
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#6
 2008-09-07, 21:19
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
eventually you would reach receptor saturation and not be able to get any higher....
too much thc for your brain to even use any more of it...
you could probably be high for longer but you wouldnt die...unless maybe if you ate about your weight in hash oil... and even then it would just be dieing from consuming that much hash oil...
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#7
 2008-09-07, 21:23
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
did you see the weed they were experimenting with in that article.
1% marijuana fuck that most good marijuana is between 15 to 25 % IIRC
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#8
 2008-09-07, 21:54
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
did you see the weed they were experimenting with in that article.
1% marijuana fuck that most good marijuana is between 15 to 25 % IIRC
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a study or something said "skunk" mj was 8% average.
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#9
 2008-09-07, 22:13
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
[Edited]
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#10
 2008-09-07, 22:16
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
an ounce would probably be lethal....
Not even close
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#11
 2008-09-07, 22:25
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
an ounce would probably be lethal...
your a fucking idiot
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#12
 2008-09-07, 22:45
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Iv found many times through prolonged smoking throughout a day I can very often "smoke myself sober" to the point were smoking doesn't really effect me however much more I smoke that day. However if you took it all in one go you would probably get royally fucked up. Cant really say if there would be a limit to how high you would get because obviously you would not know how high you WOULD have got if you ate a half oz after eating an oz. I cant see eating an oz being the most enjoyable experience ever and certainally a waste of weed.
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#13
 2008-09-07, 22:59
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Im not sure he weighs 4,500 pounds
yeah i accepted their shitty math. Its like 1250 oz/15 min or 80 pounds
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#14
 2008-09-07, 23:19
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
really i thought a lethal dose was around 22 grams
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#15
 2008-09-07, 23:20
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
really i thought a lethal dose was around 22 grams
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You were horribly mistaken.
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#16
 2008-09-07, 23:24
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
You were horribly mistaken.
alright...sorry?
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#17
 2008-09-07, 23:36
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
alright...sorry?
&T will spare your life this time. Shape up.
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#18
 2008-09-07, 23:48
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I think there's a limit, yeah. I can only get there if I'm in a ridiculous session with other people though. When I'm getting high by myself, which is the majority of the time, I'm never able to even approach the limit. I always smoke while I'm on the couch watching tv and by the time I'm done with bowl number one I get distracted by what I'm watching forever and take forever to even pack the thing let alone smoke it all. I'll usually give up after 2 or 3 bowls because that's plenty high for me and I want to just enjoy it instead of not paying attention to the show/movie because I'm trying to smoke and not enjoying the weed because I'm trying to follow the show.
But man when I go hang around with the dudes around the corner and call up some of the neighborhood guys and all whip out our stupidly expensive medical weed and roll blunt after blunt and and take rips from the bong and steamroller while we wait the blunts to be ready while we got weirdo electronic music on the box it'll take all I've got just to hold my head up.
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#19
 2008-09-07, 23:53
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
&T will spare your life this time. Shape up.
hahaha. shut up
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#20
 2008-09-08, 00:22
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
hahaha. shut up
You really aren't helping yourself by continuing to make useless posts like this. Even this post here where I'm just telling you that your post is useless still holds more value than yours does. At least mine is informing someone of something, as blatant as it may be to everyone other than yourself of course. But your post, man, your post is just taking up space that Mr. Hunter pays good money for. Would it have made a difference in any way at all had you not posted this short grammatical nightmare consisting of nothing but laughter converted to text and a request that another contributing member shuts up, even though he had shut up some time ago which is why he hit the Submit Reply button and moved on to the next thread? I mean, I guess I can see it as you trying to retain some masculinity by not allowing him the last word without a fight and deliberately denying his request by doing the opposite of said request entailed. But it's just the net, bro. Things like that are irrelevant here. The sooner you understand this and make changes keeping that in mind, the sooner we can all get what we came here for and move on to the next stage in life and leave this place in better shape than how we found it. You are getting in the way of progress by posting tripe like this. If murder wasn't a bannable offense here you can bet I would do just that for the good of the forum. But Meta's iron fist only permits me to write long rambling flames instead. So here we are.
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#21
 2008-09-08, 00:24
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Inject THC into your bloodstream. 100% THC absorption would show you the limit.
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#22
 2008-09-08, 02:22
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
if you eat enough brownies youll end up puking and passing out anyways. I know a couple ppl thats happened to. Ive read reports online also saying the same. One of my friends slept for like 16 or 18 hours or something after he ate to many brownies. He also was smoking while he was brownieing
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#23
 2008-09-08, 02:23
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Yeah theres a limit. You only need to smoke til your high otherwise you're wasting weed.
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#24
 2008-09-08, 02:32
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
theres a sweet spot with every single drug, half the fun is finding it...
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#25
 2008-09-08, 06:05
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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if you eat enough brownies youll end up puking and passing out anyways. I know a couple ppl thats happened to. Ive read reports online also saying the same. One of my friends slept for like 16 or 18 hours or something after he ate to many brownies. He also was smoking while he was brownieing
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That is what happens if you have to many brownies and I have a friend who slept from Friday night 'till Sunday morning.
There definitely is a limit, and for me at least I'll usually get there not long before passing out.
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#26
 2008-09-08, 06:21
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
from friday till sunday morning? jesus fucking christ! that is insane. whatd he feel like when he woke up? id imagine he'd have to feel pretty shit sleeping that much. not to mention hungry and probably really have to pee. that morning dump was probably epic
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#27
 2008-09-08, 18:41
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Take marinol 150mgs of dronabinol...Was the highest i ever got and it lasted 3days...so if u can ingest enough of the chemical u can reach a higher state
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#28
 2008-09-09, 01:48
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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from friday till sunday morning? jesus fucking christ! that is insane. whatd he feel like when he woke up? id imagine he'd have to feel pretty shit sleeping that much. not to mention hungry and probably really have to pee. that morning dump was probably epic
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My friend wokeup and he was still high for the next day. After a couple hours it was more of a nice buzz, but still.
Same thing happens to me whenever i brownie, the next day flies by
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#29
 2008-09-09, 03:31
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plehem12 
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Yeah I've woken up still high the day after on more than one occasion as well. But to go to bed on Friday and not wake up till Sunday...that's something else man. That's not right. I want to know whether the dude felt super refreshed or groggy and cloudy like shit. It had to be one extreme or the other.
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#30
 2008-09-09, 04:01
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
i think the only way to die from smoking weed is to lock yourself in a small, airtight hotbox and bun a few blunts to your face. you'd probably die from lack of oxygen. so technically, you can commit suicide by method of marijuana.
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#31
 2008-09-09, 04:07
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
You know every time i smoke i have the idea just to go all out and take it to a new level
I used to think like that until I tried mushrooms. They made me reach whatever it was I was trying to reach. Now when I smoke weed I just get high and then stop.
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#32
 2008-09-09, 04:45
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
marijuana has always been said to have a ceiling effect. Propagnada? i dont know.
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#33
 2008-09-09, 08:49
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I always used to try to take it to the limit. I'd just get to the point where i couldn't even force myself to pick up the bong... and it just turned out to be a waste of weed. Funny thing is, i got super baked after just a few bowls after taking a break for a day.
I took a break for about a week and the effects were... well, pretty weak. Oh well, it seemed like pretty average weed, so it looks like i'll just have to try again, this time with more weed.
Also, you would far sooner die or pass out from smoke inhalation (carbon monoxide and oxygen deprivation and such) than from reaching the lethal amount of THC.
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#34
 2008-09-09, 09:32
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
i saw once on tv, a kid take 1 joint hit and shoot the face of himself. So lethal dose- 1 hit possibley
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#35
 2008-09-09, 12:16
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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i saw once on tv, a kid take 1 joint hit and shoot the face of himself. So lethal dose- 1 hit possibley
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'Cause everything we see on TV is absolute truth.
I guess that means I'll have to go kill myself. And you too for good measure.
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#36
 2008-09-09, 14:46
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
lol at stupid tags
Rumbo why d oall your posts have [edited] in them?
And yes there is a limit to being stoned. I have witnessed non-stoner friends take massive rips of really dank weed and just pass the fuck out, its funny.
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#37
 2008-09-09, 16:15
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run while you can ----->
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Yes. You will eventually O.D and die.
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#38
 2008-09-09, 21:27
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I think personally that while there are diminishing returns to the point of almost a stop, you can almost always be higher.
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#39
 2008-09-09, 22:44
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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Originally Posted by wolfy_9005
Yes. You will eventually O.D and die.
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Did you even read the thread?
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#40
 2008-09-10, 01:58
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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i saw once on tv, a kid take 1 joint hit and shoot the face of himself. So lethal dose- 1 hit possibley
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Maybe you should try this
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#41
 2008-09-10, 02:10
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
It's been said before but i'll say it again. IV extracted THC into your bloodstream would be the only way. Smoking would make your throat bleed before you even got close. Eating....you'd have to be really fuckin hungry
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#42
 2008-11-08, 02:32
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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i saw once on tv, a kid take 1 joint hit and shoot the face of himself. So lethal dose- 1 hit possibley
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wasn't that harold and kumar
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#43
 2008-11-08, 02:45
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
wasn't that harold and kumar
I've concluded that i have yet to have an answer to this question.
btw: nice bump on a really old thread. Made me laugh when i saw it was mine though
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#44
 2008-11-08, 02:45
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I'm sure enough THC pills would kill you. Wouldn't that be the greatest way to die though.
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#45
 2008-11-08, 02:46
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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I'm sure enough THC pills would kill you. Wouldn't that be the greatest way to die though.
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100 bucks says your body would be found in the kitchen
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#46
 2008-11-08, 02:54
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
100 bucks says your body would be found in the kitchenFucking this.
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#47
 2008-11-08, 04:33
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
:D So true!
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#48
 2008-11-08, 04:43
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I remember a year back some guy ate 2lbs of bud. He threw up of course...don't ask me for proof because I lost the link a looong time ago.
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 2008-11-08, 04:58
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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Originally Posted by kwerjack
an ounce would probably be lethal...
if you wanna get seriously fucked up make brownies out of a half and eat em all...youll probably get really nervous so keep benzos on hand and a sitter...id say its impossible to die from smoking weed...well i guess not impossible, but a million times more likely to die from eating weed...and thats still probably a very small chance.
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An ounce would probably not be lethal...
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#50
 2008-11-08, 07:38
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
the highest of the high is death
and thats the truth ya'all, death is pure and beautiful, nothing else better
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#51
 2008-11-08, 07:51
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
"In addition, 92 mg/kg THC intravenously produced no fatalities in monkeys."
-source - http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/mj_overdose.htm
interesting, as i didnt know you could iv thc lol
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#52
 2008-11-08, 10:54
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I thought weed had a ceiling effect?
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#53
 2008-11-08, 13:50
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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I thought weed had a ceiling effect?
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yeah, in terms of receptor saturation, but that doesn't mean you can't ingest more if you wanted to ;)
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#54
 2008-11-08, 19:30
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I don't think it's really a matter of the quantity of the weed you smoke that gets you super-stoned as much as the quality.
I could smoke a few bowls of schwagg and probably be fine. But as soon as you load a bowl of authentic White Widow or something of the sort, it just takes it into another realm. Yes, I do think there's a limit. But I think that every strain has its own limit. The better the weed the higher the limit. I could smoke as much schwagg as I want and never get as high as I could get off of some high-quality stuff.
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#55
 2008-11-08, 20:10
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
Kief-bowls in a nice ice-bong has definitely gotten me to the point of being literally unable to smoke more, though I suppose if someone hooked it up to a hose and taped it to my head I maybe could have gone longer.
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#56
 2008-11-08, 20:10
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
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an ounce would probably be lethal...
if you wanna get seriously fucked up make brownies out of a half and eat em all...youll probably get really nervous so keep benzos on hand and a sitter...id say its impossible to die from smoking weed...well i guess not impossible, but a million times more likely to die from eating weed...and thats still probably a very small chance.
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no, an ounce of weed isnt lethal, I know for a fact that if you are a regular smoker you can smoke an ounce in a blunt and not die, you might of thought that nigga was dead, he aint dead, hes gonna wake up in 20 minutes hungry enough to eat up everything in yo fridge.
but seriously, you would have to smoke like 10 pounds to the face within a certain amount of time to die, and probably from too much smoke inhalation if anything.
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#57
 2008-11-09, 02:08
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
I keep trying to find out.
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#58
 2008-11-09, 02:45
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
If I smoke and peak out and then try to smoke again a few hours later, I can't get nearly as high. But if I have good weed and it's my first time smoking that day, every time I take another hit I just get higher, there is no limit.
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#59
 2008-11-09, 02:46
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Re: Do you guys think there's a limit to how high you can get?
yeah, in terms of receptor saturation, but that doesn't mean you can't ingest more if you wanted to ;)
true, but anymore is just a waste. You wont get higher.
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