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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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2008-09-03, 18:14
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Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
I have smoked crack once, and snorted coke like 20 times, and neither of the two had any effect on me whatsoever.
I have ADD if that makes any difference, I think I remember hearing or reading somewhere that if you have that type of condition some drugs don't affect you, is there any truth to that?
The only other drug I have done is weed extensively (as in almost every day since I was 13, and I'm now 18), and that always affects me 'properly' and gets me stoned. Alcohol also has the 'normal' effect on me.
Any ideas?
~wAste!
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# 2

2008-09-03, 18:19
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Maybe it was just baking soda?
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# 3

2008-09-03, 18:24
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
fake cocaine/crack cocaine.
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# 4

2008-09-03, 19:00
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Yeah I should have put that in my original post, I am 100% sure I've been doing the real stuff, as
a) I'm not retarded when it comes to drugs
b) I only ever get stuff off dealers I trust and am tight with
c) the other effects (bitter taste, numb gums etc) are still present
d) almost every time I've done it it has been with friends who have all achieved the desired effects.
I promise you, cocaine does NOT affect me, at ALL.
Why?
~wAste!
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2008-09-03, 19:03
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
you're lying?
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# 6

2008-09-03, 19:14
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
maybe your gay?
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2008-09-03, 19:23
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
I'm not lying, and I'm not gay. Good try though.
~wAste!
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2008-09-03, 19:26
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Coke is a more subtle high. Maybe you're just stupid.
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2008-09-03, 19:35
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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Originally Posted by wAste
I have smoked crack once, and snorted coke like 20 times, and neither of the two had any effect on me whatsoever.
I have ADD if that makes any difference, I think I remember hearing or reading somewhere that if you have that type of condition some drugs don't affect you, is there any truth to that?
The only other drug I have done is weed extensively (as in almost every day since I was 13, and I'm now 18), and that always affects me 'properly' and gets me stoned. Alcohol also has the 'normal' effect on me.
Any ideas?
~wAste!
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Your fucking retarded. No one does coke that many times without feeling it. You may be able to bullshit your dealer to get another line but that shit won't fly here. So you've done coke twenty times you say? Well I'll assume you payed for it 50% of the time. That's a lot of fucking money. Even if you were buying it in 8balls or larger but I'm assuming you were buying single grams. So your saying you continually spent hundreds of dollars for something you couldn't feel?
GTFO.
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2008-09-03, 19:49
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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Your fucking retarded. No one does coke that many times without feeling it. You may be able to bullshit your dealer to get another line but that shit won't fly here. So you've done coke twenty times you say? Well I'll assume you payed for it 50% of the time. That's a lot of fucking money. Even if you were buying it in 8balls or larger but I'm assuming you were buying single grams. So your saying you continually spent hundreds of dollars for something you couldn't feel?
GTFO.
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Do me a favour and copy+paste where I said I've snorted 20 grams?
I said I have done it around about 20 times, that's just a rough guess, it may well be less, and by "done it" I mean a decent sized line, perhaps two three or four in one session.
Actually I've never once paid for it, it's not really my thing, plus I don't have a full time job so even if I wanted to pay for something that doesn't do shit to me, I couldn't.
I'm more than happy just sticking with weed, I was just curious as to why this drug affects all my friends in such a big way but doesn't give me any kind of rush or high or any feeling at all other than numb gums and a blocked up nose; and as to whether it could be connected to my ADD, after all, I used to be prescribed dexamphetamine to calm me down, whereas in other "normal" people it would give them a high.
Just curious.
Anyone got any ideas that aren't gay/lying/retarded/huff raid/murdersuicide/molotov everything/insert other generic flames here?
~wAste!
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#11
 2008-09-03, 20:17
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Actually I've never once paid for it, it's not really my thing, plus I don't have a full time job so even if I wanted to pay for something that doesn't do shit to me, I couldn't.
So how much blow does he break you off after you blow him?
I am curious to the going rate.
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#12
 2008-09-03, 20:18
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Drugs affect everyone differently. If dex-amp had a reverse effect on you, then I'd imagine that relates to the lack of effects you get from cocaine. You should consider yourself lucky because cocaine is a short-lasting, addictive, and expensive drug.
There is also the possibility that you got shitty cocaine and the people you were with were just acting, but no one can definitely tell you that over the internet.
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 2008-09-03, 20:18
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
saying it might be fake isnt a flame, its an absolute answer to your question.
there are alot of things that cocaine can be cut with, that would fool even someone with your experience...maybe it was cut to shit. Many of the substances used for cut are bitter, & cause numbness.
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#14
 2008-09-03, 20:44
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
So how much blow does he break you off after you blow him?
I am curious to the going rate.
Does nobody on totse have generous friends?!
Just to satisfy your curiosity, there are two main ways I have managed to lay my hands on cocaine previously.
The first being through my best friend, who is a big fan of coke, and has a very well paying job. I suppose in a way I do pay for it, I always share my weed, cigarettes, alcohol etc with him, but its just a really good friendship there's no set "prices" like one joint for one line or anything, its just give and take.
The second is that I guess technically I kinda deal it, I have a really good relationship with the one guy who I get my weed off, and he also happens to sell coke. There's about 6 or 7 people who will come to me if they want coke and ask me to ask him, as they know they will get more for their money and likely better stuff if I ask than if they were to. So yeah of course if I do that for them I take myself a little cut :)
Drugs affect everyone differently. If dex-amp had a reverse effect on you, then I'd imagine that relates to the lack of effects you get from cocaine. You should consider yourself lucky because cocaine is a short-lasting, addictive, and expensive drug.
There is also the possibility that you got shitty cocaine and the people you were with were just acting, but no one can definitely tell you that over the internet.
Thanks dude for an actual sensible response, BLTC needs more people like you. I was prescribed dex-amp for my ADD when I was younger, I have since stopped taking it out of choice, I could probably get re-prescribed if I tried. I never used to like taking it, so I'd give it to friends or sell it on. If I took it, I'd concentrate in class, get good grades, be an angel at home, etc etc. However if my friends took it, they would go real hyper, real confident, full of energy, real happy etc etc.
I agree with your second point about the possibility of people faking it, but yeah I doubt it to be honest, would people still keep getting coke through me if it was shit? I've tried coke from quite a few different sources and still nothing, surely not ALL the cocaine round my area is baking soda! Also like I said my best friend is a big fan of coke, and he will happily admit when its not very good, or when its great, and no matter what he has said about it its still not affected me at all. I can kinda tell the difference by taste and appearance and know he isn't bullshitting.
saying it might be fake isnt a flame, its an absolute answer to your question.
there are alot of things that cocaine can be cut with, that would fool even someone with your experience...maybe it was cut to shit. Many of the substances used for cut are bitter, & cause numbness.
I didn't include fake in my list of generic flames. Out of curiosity, what else is bitter and causes numbness? Might start adding it into the stuff I sell on. But yeah like I said I really doubt its fake. Still a valid idea, but I don't think it applies to my situation.
~wAste!
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 2008-09-03, 20:59
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Eh, you simply must be the 1 person in the entire world that isn't effected by cocaine. It happens.  What else do you want anyone to say? If it doesn't effect you, it doesn't effect you. But I've been doing cocaine for years and with lots and lots of people and I've never come across one person that was unaffected by coke.
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 2008-09-03, 22:59
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Either:
Do more blow at once,
Combine with alcohol,
IV?
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#17
 2008-09-03, 23:02
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
lol i call troll
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#18
 2008-09-03, 23:15
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Cocaine is more of a mental high than physical. Like it will affect your personality and make you confident, like alcohol; but won't make you sloppy and unable to walk, like alcohol.
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 2008-09-03, 23:21
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Cocaine is more of a mental high than physical.
That's not true at all....
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#20
 2008-09-03, 23:25
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
That's not true at all....
Mostly is.
It's not as noticable than most other drugs if you are looking at someone on it.
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#21
 2008-09-03, 23:27
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Mostly is.
It's not as noticable than most other drugs if you are looking at someone on it.
Not me, at all especially after a few grams. I'll be sweating, eyes fucking huge, very jittery and paranoid even for no reason. I don't do it much anymore though and when I do I have some 'ron because that takes the edge wayyy off. You just gotta be careful only to do a little ron with it because speed balling is somewhat dangerous but the ron can also completely kill the coke buzz if you're too high.
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#22
 2008-09-03, 23:30
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
'ron?
I see what you mean, I don't do it much but alot of my mates do and I suppose I wouldn't notice how fucked they are on it because I've got double vision off the drink.
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#23
 2008-09-03, 23:30
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
This isn't the first time I've heard of someone with ADD not experiencing obtrusive effects from cocaine, though with the quality running around these days it's hard to deduce a firm opinion on whether or not it's truth. That said, like others have mentioned, cocaine is very subtle, it tends to act like an "on" switch for people and I think the euphoria experienced is largely dependent on the individual taking it.
For instance, I'm somewhat introverted, so the extroversion qualities given by cocaine provide a lot of the euphoria I'm looking for. I think a lot of people are looking for euphoria akin to the rush provided by opiates through cocaine, but the fact of the matter is, it's just not that kind of high. The euphoria, in my experience, comes from its ability to heighten whatever I'm already experiencing. Say, for example, I'm jamming some music with some friends and already have a decent amount of euphoria and happiness, if cocaine is added it just takes it to the next level in a subtle way.
If I'm fooling around with a female and, again, there is already some "reward" chemicals firing, it heightens it immensely. If I just sat here and did cocaine, I would get all the effects such as numbing of the face, feeling content and at peace, etc, but the rush would be much smaller than if I were doing something more fun.
It, for me (and I a/b extract fairly high quality product) is like an on switch. It puts me in that zone where everything I do is excellent, I'm just flowing perfectly with whatever is happening and THAT gives me incredible euphoria. Inhibitions are lost, so THAT gives me euphoria. The drug alone, does not provide me with an instant euphoric rush and I think looking at it in that way is a mistake. It makes me want to do "things" that already give me pleasure and it heightens those activities.
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#24
 2008-09-03, 23:33
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Most likely reason, your dealer buys from some dick. Some dick has had money problems/is in debt to mafia(s). Some dick decides to start cutting coke with baking soda & lidocaine.
Lidocaine is cheap and gives the feeling of tingly gums associated with coke, with not much of a high.
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 2008-09-03, 23:39
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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Most likely reason, your dealer buys from some dick. Some dick has had money problems/is in debt to mafia(s). Some dick decides to start cutting coke with baking soda & lidocaine.
Lidocaine is cheap and gives the feeling of tingly gums associated with coke, with not much of a high.
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Yeah, back when I was younger I bought some 'coke' and it turned out to be procaine. Being cut with baking soda is the worse...though I have seen some junkies use vinegar to get the baking soda and then shot it...but that's pathetic as fuck. If you can't get any decent cocaine (it should be soft...cocaine is supposed to be a lady...girl...soft etc, not harsh and soday tasting) then don't buy it at all.
'ron?
I see what you mean, I don't do it much but alot of my mates do and I suppose I wouldn't notice how fucked they are on it because I've got double vision off the drink.
ron = heroin. Herron...ron. I donno 
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#26
 2008-09-03, 23:56
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
i hate it when people say that...
........people with adhd arent affected by stimulants
........people with anxiety arent affected by benzos
........people with severe pain arent affected by opiates
these meds dont treat the disease, they treat the symptom
goddamn it is has nothing to do with your adhd
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#27
 2008-09-04, 00:10
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Same here man. Best coke in town (for canada anyway) that evvvvvveryone in school is buying from even the big coke dealer and I get a slight buzz and my heart hurts for the rest of the night. I downed over a gram in one night and just had a real fast heart.
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#28
 2008-09-04, 00:13
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
i hate it when people say that...
........people with adhd arent affected by stimulants
goddamn it is has nothing to do with your adhd
thank you. this is what i was waiting for while i read the first 2 pages.
ust because you have add, dosnt mean amps wont get you high.....
also, with that many trys, either you have some weird, unnatural tolerance, havnt been taking enough, not good enough quality, or your simply lying. or possibly the most unlucky person in the world.
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#29
 2008-09-04, 01:35
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
i hate it when people say that...
........people with severe pain arent affected by opiates
Exactly. And as strange as it is, opiates FUCK me up, but don't touch any real pain. The way it pretty much goes is, if the pain can be helped with anything, NSAIDS and marijuana help, if either of those can't help it, opiates won't either, I just walk around twice as fucked up.
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 2008-09-04, 01:41
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Exactly. And as strange as it is, opiates FUCK me up, but don't touch any real pain. The way it pretty much goes is, if the pain can be helped with anything, NSAIDS and marijuana help, if either of those can't help it, opiates won't either, I just walk around twice as fucked up.
I'm the same, opiates do a pretty poor job all around at helping any pain with me, and every other opiate besides herron doesn't really seem to do shit to me. I remember I took over 70 mg of oxycodone (7 percocet 10 mgs), and was itchin a bit, but herron is completely different I can shoot/snort .1 grams and be so high I nod horribly (I've got burn holes in my keyboard from nodding out with a cigarette typing :p). GOD I can't wait until tomorrow, I'm getting 3.5 grams of china white :D.
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 2008-09-04, 01:41
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
OK i think i know the answer to ur problem.....but first.....
in your original post you said " I almost always do it with other people." IF you didn't get the effects....why would you do it alone? Especially since you said you also never bought it once....
I don't think anyone would ever just hand me some coke and say..have a good time...sorry not happening, and 20 times? give me a break. I could see someone giving you some coke and saying, lets do some....but it would be gone when you two are done....i've done addictive drugs before and they usually get consumed in one session until it is all gone, unless you have more sessions worth anyways.....
IF U ARE NOT LYING AND TELLING THE COMPLETE TRUTH THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM:
You are tolerant to the euphoric effects of coke. let me explain how. What age were you perscribed dex? ok u were little, you admitted to the stimulant effects of focusing and all that jazz but as a kid it was probably harder to notice the euphoria especially when you weren't expecting it....get what im saying? OK Coke is a stimulant, so is dex-amp....you are very tolerant to dex-amp. your body grew up with it in it's system, it remembers exactly what its like in every receptor. when you do coke it has similar effects(i've never even done it haha) , but what is the exchange rate of mg's of dex to mg's of coke? thats what i want to know...
anyways the solution to your problem is obviously do more ;) you little addict with your silly mind games.
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#32
 2008-09-04, 01:52
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
what is the exchange rate of mg's of dex to mg's of coke? thats what i want to know...
wow......just, wow.....
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 2008-09-04, 02:00
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
wow......just, wow.....
yeah funny guy right here, what are you wowing? can you please explain it since you obviously know what you are talking about?
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#34
 2008-09-04, 02:05
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Do me a favour and copy+paste where I said I've snorted 20 grams?
I said I have done it around about 20 times, that's just a rough guess, it may well be less, and by "done it" I mean a decent sized line, perhaps two three or four in one session.
Actually I've never once paid for it, it's not really my thing, plus I don't have a full time job so even if I wanted to pay for something that doesn't do shit to me, I couldn't.
~wAste!
Um yeah, I never really felt coke until I actually bought a decent amount and did it all night ($80-sac in Miami). Go get an 8-ball, you won't regret it.
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 2008-09-04, 02:06
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
yeah funny guy right here, what are you wowing? can you please explain it since you obviously know what you are talking about?
im "wowing" because you asked for a mg conversion of dex-cocaine......
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 2008-09-04, 02:24
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
well im pretty sure 20 mg of cocaine will have you feeling next to nothing while 20 mg of dex should atleast make a non-tolerant person really high.
if you did a gram of cocaine(which is the standard purchase amount for a person who doesnt do coke often) you would have to break up into 50 - 20mg lines.....
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 2008-09-04, 02:25
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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Coke is a more subtle high. Maybe you're just stupid.
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You have never done good coke in your life. "Subtle high"? If anything, marijuana is a "subtle high"
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 2008-09-04, 02:26
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
If you didn't feel anything off snorting coke, or SMOKING CRACK, you are NOT getting cocaine. I don't give a fuck what you forced yourself to believe. If you don't feel anything from coke, snort it farther up your nose, not to the the back of your throat, and if that doesn't work, you are a freak of nature
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#39
 2008-09-04, 02:28
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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well im pretty sure 20 mg of cocaine will have you feeling next to nothing while 20 mg of dex should atleast make a non-tolerant person really high.
if you did a gram of cocaine(which is the standard purchase amount for a person who doesnt do coke often) you would have to break up into 50 - 20mg lines.....
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the effects of dex & the effects of coke will never be the same....no matter how much you take........they can be similar sure, but not nearly close enough.
its not like
I snort 4 lines of coke = I take 30mg dex.....
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#40
 2008-09-04, 16:08
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
So why does apple pie not affect me at all? I mean Ive eaten apple pie several times but I never get high. Am I just immune to it?
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 2008-09-04, 16:25
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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So why does apple pie not affect me at all? I mean Ive eaten apple pie several times but I never get high. Am I just immune to it?
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Have you been drinking apple juice? Your tolerance is probably up.
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#42
 2008-09-04, 16:59
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
oh okay
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 2008-09-04, 19:45
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Man, I eat generic apple jacks and I still get fucked up. I love having no tolerance.
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 2008-09-26, 23:01
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
Not to thread jack but staying on topic: Regarding my last message of downing 1.5 grams in anighyt and just feeling shitty, while my buddy said he felt decent.
I did coke 2weeks ago and felt great off a tiny line.
Yesterday me and 3 girls pitched on 10 peices and they said "good coke but not great"
I did a small line and felt a mild buzz, took about 1/3rd of a peice an hour later for the next 3 hours and just felt shitter and shitter overall but aslightly better buzz (still bleh). A had a smoke and it increased it to a mild high for about 10 minutes. I finally did a whole peice and I just felt like shit and depressed and couldnt sleep for the whole night.
Are my dopamine levels fucked from WAY to much mdma (ran outta serotonin replenishment a long time ago) or what? I was still getting the stimulant properties (red flushed skin, high temp, anxiety, restlessness, jaw clenching, racing heart, energy) but no euphoriac properties.
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 2008-09-27, 05:03
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Re: Why does cocaine not affect me at all?
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Same here man. Best coke in town (for canada anyway) that evvvvvveryone in school is buying from even the big coke dealer and I get a slight buzz and my heart hurts for the rest of the night. I downed over a gram in one night and just had a real fast heart.
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one gram is fucking nothing
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