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Old 2008-09-03, 03:30
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Default RC Powder Dilution

This has already been discussed but I am asking again, since this is potentially dangerous if I fuck it up.

So I want to know what some good ratios with this shit would be. I have 1000mg 2ce coming soon, and I dont have a sensitive enough scale to measure it. What should I cut the 2ce with that will dissolve into a drink well? I believe stupid noob said that adding food dye helps avoid clumps of higher active sub density. Because you can see the over saturated areas. What is a foolproof way to mix it 100% even? Coffee grinder?

Sorry if this has been covered, fucking it up isn't an option.
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Old 2008-09-03, 03:53
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idk, i don't like the concept of diluting it as a solid. if you put it into solution it's guaranteed to be evenly dissolved if you stir it and there's no clumps...
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Old 2008-09-03, 03:57
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well depending on if its polar or non polar you could dilute it into water or ethanol...

you have a known amount of material, dissolve it into a known amount solvent and you can figure out a pretty accurate mg/ml dosage... a syringe would probably be your best bet for measuring out dosages accurately...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:04
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Yeah it is able to dissolve in water and ethanol. My only worry was that if i let it sit for a long time (which it most likely will) that the powder would settle and maybe cake to the sides of the container.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:05
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it shouldn't, not unless you heat the solvent up to get the 2CE to dissolve...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:09
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Ok, so as far as I understand if something is soluable in water, then it wont just un-dissolve. I would have to evaporate it to get the salts back right?
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:11
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that, or make the solution really cold to get the solute to crash out...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:12
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Default Re: RC Powder Dilution

It was actually me that first introduced it here. I read it on another forum.

What you do is mix your known amount of drug with an equal amount of dye. Then you mix that with a cut until it's a uniform color. Example: take 2 grams of 2C-B. Mix with 2 grams of Kool-Aid until it's a consistent color. Mix it with 16 grams of sugar until it's consistent to get 10 mg of 2C-B per 100 mg of powder.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:15
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Yeah it is able to dissolve in water and ethanol. My only worry was that if i let it sit for a long time (which it most likely will) that the powder would settle and maybe cake to the sides of the container.
if its dissolved in water i wouldn't think that it would just settle... some solutions will stay homogeneous, if your worried you could always just shake the vial before you measure out doses...

but yea try to make sure its as close to 1000mg as possible, they short you and you have weak doses, they accidentally gave you more and they will be stronger...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:16
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It was actually me that first introduced it here. I read it on another forum.

What you do is mix your known amount of drug with an equal amount of dye. Then you mix that with a cut until it's a uniform color. Example: take 2 grams of 2C-B. Mix with 2 grams of Kool-Aid until it's a consistent color. Mix it with 16 grams of sugar until it's consistent to get 10 mg of 2C-B per 100 mg of powder.
that sounds pretty straight and it's easier to distribute rather than mLs of solution...
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Thanks you guys this was very helpful. I dont know shit about physics or chemistry so I apologize for the dumb assumption about settling. Haha can't wait to get this shit. On one more question, where can I get something to store the solution in, and how am I supposed to get a syringe to measure ml doses?
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:25
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Thanks you guys this was very helpful. I dont know shit about physics or chemistry so I apologize for the dumb assumption about settling. Haha can't wait to get this shit. On one more question, where can I get something to store the solution in, and how am I supposed to get a syringe to measure ml doses?


Do you have a dog?
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:25
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i've gotten RCs dissolved in everclear in things like this...

http://www.labdepotinc.com/Product_Details~id~424~pid~12951.aspx

you could probably get away with using a graduated cylinder and figuring out how many drops of 2CE solution are in an mL or something...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:27
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Thanks you guys this was very helpful. I dont know shit about physics or chemistry so I apologize for the dumb assumption about settling. Haha can't wait to get this shit. On one more question, where can I get something to store the solution in, and how am I supposed to get a syringe to measure ml doses?


You can get anything that will measure ml. Get creative and look around.

The best thing to store it in woud be an airtight, amber glass bottle.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:30
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I can just steal a graduated cylinder from school. And dont eyedroppers drop exactly one ml per drop? And those amber bottles would he available at a GNC right?
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:32
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I can just steal a graduated cylinder from school. And dont eyedroppers drop exactly one ml per drop?

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Old 2008-09-03, 04:34
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The place you ordered your chemicals from could, and has in the past, sold diluted, bunk, or near bunk chemicals. I would be weary, particularly if its a 2 for one sale.

Considering you "can steal a graduated cylinder from school" you are probably in high school, thus under 18.
Let me tell you, if you ever receive the 2c-e well, boy you are fucking with some SERIOUS shit. :D

Also note, the insuflatable dose is amazingly low, and amazingly potent. active at like 2mg, and an insane trip at ~4mg

What are you planing to do with a whole fucking gram?

Let us know how it goes, please.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:35
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I can just steal a graduated cylinder from school. And dont eyedroppers drop exactly one ml per drop? And those amber bottles would he available at a GNC right?


nah, a ml is more than a drop...

a syringe is about as accurate as you can get as far as measuring our precise amounts of liquid..

and don't steal chemistry equipment from your school... they really don't get a lot of money to pay for those things they need... the teachers at our school have to watch the scales to make sure no one takes them...
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:43
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nah, a ml is more than a drop...

a syringe is about as accurate as you can get as far as measuring our precise amounts of liquid..

He is right!

Also, you can buy a 2ml syringe online for less then a dollar.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:49
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He is right!

Also, you can buy a 2ml syringe online for less then a dollar.

an oral syringe might suffice but a real syringe would be more precise. oral syringes are available without any real cause from any pharmacy... say the dog chewed up the one the doctors gave to give medicine to your niece and you need another if they ask...
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The place you ordered your chemicals from could, and has in the past, sold diluted, bunk, or near bunk chemicals. I would be weary, particularly if its a 2 for one sale.

Considering you "can steal a graduated cylinder from school" you are probably in high school, thus under 18.
Let me tell you, if you ever receive the 2c-e well, boy you are fucking with some SERIOUS shit. :D

Also note, the insuflatable dose is amazingly low, and amazingly potent. active at like 2mg, and an insane trip at ~4mg

What are you planing to do with a whole fucking gram?

Let us know how it goes, please.


As inexperienced in the world of psyches I am, I feel very well prepared for an intense experience, although I hear that medium doses are actually quite subtle. And a gram is the smallest amount I was able to purchase, I may sell some to a carefully selected group of people.

And Ill keep you posted on how this transaction goes, I got alot of mixed messages about it so I am being a guinea pig.
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Old 2008-09-03, 04:55
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Drop me an email, if you can, i have some advice for you.

Email is in my profile.
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Old 2008-09-03, 05:08
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Gotcha dude.
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Old 2008-09-03, 05:31
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My lab rats have never noticed any sort of factor that would make them think that this company is diluting its chemicals, this companys chems are up to par with any other vendors chems. If you are questioning anything I can answer alot about this place. Just e-mail me if you need to.
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Old 2008-09-03, 08:34
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Did you have to wait till the Olympics finished?


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Old 2008-09-03, 09:12
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Did you have to wait till the Olympics finished?



That rule usually only applies with the chinese vendors.
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Old 2008-09-03, 12:06
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Is it difficult to get syringes in America? Even without a needle?! Confused

Just dilute and measure that way or even better, seeing as your getting a gram of the stuff you might as well invest in some decent scales.
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Old 2008-09-03, 13:09
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That rule usually only applies with the chinese vendors.

k..

I was just curious of the timing.
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