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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1

2008-09-03, 02:09
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Datura Stramonium
Anyone have any experience with Datura? I've had 1/2 a seedpod at 7:00 it's now 10:00 and I still feel no effects except for very slight cotton mouth which comes and goes.
No vision problems, no nausea, no hallucinations, nothing.
Erowid said it can take up to 2 hours, but it's been 3 hours already and nothing. should I take more?
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# 2

2008-09-03, 02:20
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Re: Datura Stramonium
No, you shouldn't take more. But if it's been 3 hours, you would need more for effects. Don't over-do it. That shit kills people. Even if it doesn't, you'll probably wish you were dead.
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# 3

2008-09-03, 02:23
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Re: Datura Stramonium
first off, i wouldnt have taken datura in the first place. ive only had negatives experiences with it.
also, smoking> eating
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# 4

2008-09-03, 02:24
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Did you take it on an empty stomach?
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# 5

2008-09-03, 02:34
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonner
Did you take it on an empty stomach?
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yeah, but I smoked a blunt and got the munchies afterwords, did that affect it?
Also to alex333, I've read peoples bad experiences on erowid, I know what to expect, but I feel that it would be something I would like, so I tried it.
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# 6

2008-09-03, 02:45
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Re: Datura Stramonium
I actually don't know... the marijuana makes it a lot more confusing because you obviously won't feel any nausea after smoking and weed causes cottonmouth as well. Obviously having eaten, the onset would be delayed.
However, you might not have taken enough.
Just wait some more and if it doesn't kick it, take more next time. However, don't take any more right now because you might get really fucked up.
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# 7

2008-09-03, 02:51
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Mkay.. but I know the weed would start to wear off by now, and the cottonmouth comes and goes, thats not like weed.
I know weeds effects on me, and the cottonmouth generally lasts 1-2 hours, and it doesn't return unless I smoke more.
Also, the seeds were immature from what I can tell, still a light tan-ish colour.
Last edited by DumbWaiter; 2008-09-03 at 02:53.
Reason: extra info
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# 8

2008-09-03, 03:25
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Re: Datura Stramonium
arent you supposed to like wait a day to redose? Cuz it can take so long to kick in, and it lasts so long. And i believe you can od. but your fine.
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# 9

2008-09-03, 03:54
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Quote:
Originally Posted by DumbWaiter
Anyone have any experience with Datura? I've had 1/2 a seedpod at 7:00 it's now 10:00 and I still feel no effects except for very slight cotton mouth which comes and goes.
No vision problems, no nausea, no hallucinations, nothing.
Erowid said it can take up to 2 hours, but it's been 3 hours already and nothing. should I take more?
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man, you really have no idea what you're getting yourself into, and i dont care how many trip reports you've read. datura is not a fun drug, its pure hell that can last days. i strongly advise against redosing, but you were dumb enough to have done it in the first place so i doubt you're gonna take my advice to heart.
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# 10

2008-09-03, 04:04
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Re: Datura Stramonium
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Originally Posted by Relentless
man, you really have no idea what you're getting yourself into, and i dont care how many trip reports you've read. datura is not a fun drug, its pure hell that can last days. i strongly advise against redosing, but you were dumb enough to have done it in the first place so i doubt you're gonna take my advice to heart.
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I've read all the bad trips people have had.. I get that it can be pure hell, but I've been to hell and back before, so I'm not really worried with that, the only thing I am worried about is the possibility of Overdosing.
I still feel nothing and will wait until the week after next before trying again, but next time instead of seeds I'll try making a tea.
I have a friend who tried it and had a perfectly fine trip, so it really just depends on the person.
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#11
 2008-09-03, 04:27
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Re: Datura Stramonium
I've read all the bad trips people have had.. I get that it can be pure hell, but I've been to hell and back before, so I'm not really worried with that, the only thing I am worried about is the possibility of Overdosing.
I still feel nothing and will wait until the week after next before trying again, but next time instead of seeds I'll try making a tea.
I have a friend who tried it and had a perfectly fine trip, so it really just depends on the person.
its unpredictable as fuck though, so unless you like gambling with your life, have at it...
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#12
 2008-09-03, 04:41
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Re: Datura Stramonium
ive actually had some pretty comfortable mild highs brought on by smoking datura leaf with tobacco... it lacks the full blown delirium but still maintains a nice sort of sedated feeling to it for a couple of hours...
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# 13

2008-09-03, 06:01
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next stop antartica
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Re: Datura Stramonium
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Originally Posted by DumbWaiter
I've read all the bad trips people have had...
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Dead people can't write about bad trips..............
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# 14

2008-09-03, 16:12
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Acolyte
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Re: Datura Stramonium
I've eaten it before, and let me tell you right now that it's a mistake to ever go anywhere near that shit, at least in high quantities. Smoking is a much preferable method to eating it, as the effects come on quicker and markedly less strong. All I can tell you is that if that shit really kicks in, you are going to hate life.
My datura experience was hellish. I ended up locking myself in a closet with my friend, who was also on datura. We weren't fully aware of each other's presences, since we weren't really existing on a physical plane at that point, but our rapidly flailing limbs kept smacking into each other and we would freak out when we felt the other person in the dark. We ended up spending almost a day in there cause we wouldn't even respond to our sitters. Bad news bears.
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# 15

2008-09-03, 19:16
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Re: Datura Stramonium
a buddy of mine was so fucked up that his mom took him to the hospital. they brought him into a room and hand cuffed him to a chair. they left him locked there for at least a day while it wore off. he was just fuckin ranting and seeing all kinds of weird shit.
a chick he took it with had conversations with people who she believed were there but was just a tree.
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# 16

2008-09-03, 19:30
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Re: Datura Stramonium
The only time i have ever done dartura I consumed 2 seedpods worth of seeds, about 150 if I had to guess. Unfortunately that day I also had consumed a bottle of Zicam and a few too many benzos prior to all that, so my memory of it is hazy. But what I do remember I was lying on my bed asking my friend who was driving, and I made an adventure to Citgo to get cigarettes but I was worried I would lose my pants to I tied them around my waist. For about a week after I had a really hard time focusing my eyes on things, which was frustrating. Dont do that shit
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# 17

2008-09-03, 19:35
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Re: Datura Stramonium
i have a feeling we wont be hearing from the OP in at least a couple days.
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# 18

2008-09-03, 20:30
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Soooo....
Anyone want to make a bet on his life?
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#19
 2008-09-03, 20:33
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Re: Datura Stramonium
i got five on it...
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#20
 2008-09-03, 20:36
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Re: Datura Stramonium
i got five on it...
*writes down in small notebook*
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#21
 2008-09-03, 20:39
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Re: Datura Stramonium
i got five on it...
messin' wit that indo weeed
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# 22

2008-09-04, 02:14
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Re: Datura Stramonium
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Originally Posted by eesakiwi
Dead people can't write about bad trips..............
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Perhaps I should have said, I have read about all the bad trips people have had. I have done a bit of research (mainly erowid.org), and have read about all the trips to the ICU, people dieing because of it, and people losing their sanity to it.
I am strong-willed, yet peaceful, and I have a 'knowing' that I will be fine. I feel that the time is right, regardless of consequence. hellish nightmare, or stunning revelation; either way will be a tremendous learning experience.
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#23
 2008-09-04, 02:18
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Re: Datura Stramonium
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Originally Posted by ChemicalFormulaLove
Soooo....
Anyone want to make a bet on his life?
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and if you bet for me to die, then sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not some young idiot out there messing with things they know nothing about.
I will not die easily of my own carelessness.
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#24
 2008-09-04, 02:37
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Re: Datura Stramonium
and if you bet for me to die, then sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not some young idiot out there messing with things they know nothing about.
I will not die easily of my own carelessness.
why not just smoke it? It's much easier to gauge the strength of the dose when smoking because the effects hit you SO much faster. Much safer/harder to OD on.
Start with like 1X1 sq.cm IIRC (obviously check around)
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#25
 2008-09-04, 03:45
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Re: Datura Stramonium
why not just smoke it? It's much easier to gauge the strength of the dose when smoking because the effects hit you SO much faster. Much safer/harder to OD on.
Start with like 1X1 sq.cm IIRC (obviously check around)
I tryed smoking a bowl of the dried leaf aprox. 2 in^2
Didnt feel a thing asides from dry mouth and a slightly odd aftertaste
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#26
 2008-09-04, 04:43
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Death9 
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Smoking it or making tea with the flowers did nothing. Ate like 2 pods of seeds and "triped" if you wanna call it that. Very simaler to dip. which makes sence becouse there in the same class of drugs. I would say dont bother withe it but if you wanna see were it takes you go for it.
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#27
 2008-09-05, 02:15
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Very simaler to dip. which makes sence becouse there in the same class of drugs.
what is this dip you talk of? The only dip I know of is smokeless tobacco but thats nowhere near the same class of drugs.
Datura is a delerient, where as tobacco is a stimulant.
so what dip are you referring to?
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#28
 2008-09-05, 02:57
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Re: Datura Stramonium
what is this dip you talk of? The only dip I know of is smokeless tobacco but thats nowhere near the same class of drugs.
Datura is a delerient, where as tobacco is a stimulant.
so what dip are you referring to?
diphenhydramine im assuming?
which yah, i guess you can consider a deleriant
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#29
 2008-09-05, 06:44
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Re: Datura Stramonium
don't eat the pods... thats the most dangerous way of indigestion fucking christ.
i see all these datura threads and i don't understand why i even respond.
this is my last i swear to myself.
here what you need to do... boil down 4 or 5 flowers into some tea until you get a nice thick goo, add water and sugar.
drink one cup.
you are going to go fucking insane, unless you vomit it up then you are still going to be quite delerious and you will have blurred vision.
if you don't vomit, well... i guess its time to meet that witch they talk about. luckily my friend and i both vomited.
its really not what its summed up to be, just go eat a bunch of dramamine.
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#30
 2008-09-05, 12:41
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Didnt feel a thing asides from dry mouth...
...you do realize those are the only effects noted by people when they're talking to people who don't exist, right???
It will not get you "high." Even when you forgot your own fucking name and are talking to a dream-sequence of people appearing and disappearing to make random utterances, you will not feel a damned thing.
That's part of what makes it so dangerous.
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# 31

2008-09-05, 20:31
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Just wait longer.....
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# 32

2008-09-08, 04:30
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Re: Datura Stramonium
nah, I havent even tripped yet, unless I'm still tripping now, which I doubt. People would have noticed me acting strange.
friday I tried again with the seeds, only 1/4 seedpod, but fully mature seeds this time.
all that happened was I passed out on the bed, I could hear shit going on around me, but I was too out of it to respond.
then I got up, took my shirt off, and tried to cool down, and was fine after that. I saw nothing to be worried or scared about.
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#33
 2008-09-08, 05:39
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Death9 
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Re: Datura Stramonium
diphenhydramine im assuming?
which yah, i guess you can consider a deleriant
ya thats what i ment.
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#34
 2008-09-09, 02:42
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Ive never tried it though i am interested.
some of my friends all tried it together and they didnt die or anything but they told me it was a long and shitty trip.
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#35
 2008-09-09, 03:22
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Re: Datura Stramonium
diphenhydramine im assuming?
which yah, i guess you can consider a deleriant
I know nothing when it comes to chemistry, so what is this diphenydramine
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#36
 2008-09-09, 05:16
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Re: Datura Stramonium
I know nothing when it comes to chemistry, so what is this diphenydramine
benadryl... otc anti-histamine....
there is also dramamine which will give you similar effects, but the dosages are diffrent...
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#37
 2008-09-09, 14:59
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Benadryl basically is datura. Look it up on wikipedia, and click on the links like atropine and scopolamine, and notice how the word 'devil' is in the nickname for all of them. Learn about what they actually do to your brain. You're saying that you aren't ignorant or uninformed about this stuff but reading your posts in this thread it kind of seems like you're lying about it. Benadryl is measurable, if you're going to be a dumbass and purposefully put yourself in a state of disphoric delerium, at least take something that you can measure, instead of just shoving unknown amounts of poisonous plants down your throat...
Also, while I've never taken anything like it myself, my understanding is that you won't really feel any different when you're under the influence, as has already been stated several times in this thread. Are you under the influence of the drug right now? Have you talked to any of your friends in your house today? Did you invite those friends over? Did they actually come at all? You said people would have noticed you acting oddly, but were you actually around people at all? Do you remember? How would you really know? Did you notice that there was a three day period between the time that ego-twitcher told you to wait longer and you said you were only pretty sure that you weren't still "tripping"? Fuck deleriants, you aren't going to have fun and you aren't going to learn anything about yourself or the world around you either. Absolutely worthless.
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#38
 2008-09-09, 21:02
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Datura Stramonium
Benadryl basically is datura.
similar effects but diffrent drugs... acid and mushrooms work generally the same, but acid is not basically mushrooms...
benadryl causes a shorter delerium with much less risk of death... you know when your on dipen, huge amount of body load, dreamy feeling, cant sleep, have to piss every 10 minutes... on datura, there really isnt a noticable feeeling of "comming up" sooner or later your just talking to trees like its something you have been doing all your life...
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