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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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# 1

2008-09-02, 23:38
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x and water
i think i might try x for the first time this weekend and i've been asking my friends about it and they always tell me to "remember the rule with water" its never any more descriptive that that, just the "rule with the water"
can anybody explain this to me?
is it drink a lot?
or dont drink any?
or what?
thanks
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# 2

2008-09-02, 23:40
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Re: x and water
its to keep yourself hydrated. hazey used to have a water rule. i think he said to drink a bottle every hour or something like that. that is a good rule.
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# 3

2008-09-02, 23:45
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Re: x and water
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Originally Posted by plehem12
its to keep yourself hydrated. hazey used to have a water rule. i think he said to drink a bottle every hour or something like that. that is a good rule.
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okay thanks
any other tips for a first time x user?
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# 4

2008-09-02, 23:47
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Re: x and water
Dont drink too much. And dont drink alchohol (beyond a drink or two.)
If you smoke keep some handy. keep gum handy. Be with your good friends. And DONT CHEW YOUR DAMN MOUTH.
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# 5

2008-09-03, 00:48
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Re: x and water
just drink like 3 or 4 bottles throughout the roll.... and you will be fine...
have gum, i know of some people who have chewed their cheeks raw while rolling....
cigarettes if you smoke them
some good music
and someone your close to, family or friends its a bonding experience...
my first roll was with my sister.... one day she was just like "so i got some free rolls, were eating these tonight..."
took 1, waited about 45 minutes, didnt feel much and we each ate another... 15 minutes later we were both rolling hard... and realized "god the 2nd one hasn't even hit yet"... it was a fun night, walked around the neighborhood for about 5 hours talking with a sober friend of mine that lives nearby...
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# 6

2008-09-03, 01:41
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Re: x and water
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Originally Posted by Black people?
i think i might try x for the first time this weekend and i've been asking my friends about it and they always tell me to "remember the rule with water" its never any more descriptive that that, just the "rule with the water"
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Yeah, well...
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Originally Posted by Black people?
can anybody explain this to me?
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1. Your friends are morons.
2. MDMA has no effect on hydration.
3. Dancing full force for 16 hours without taking a drink does have an effect on hydration.
...seeing as people were pulling off #3 and dying, the drug saftey edumacation pplz started saying "umm, drink water when you dance for hours nonstop." Idiots decided to take this to "zomg if you eat teh extacy and don't drink a gallon every thirty minutes u will diez, even if you're chilling in a massage circle!"
Ironically, because of this, a few people have actually, literally died of water overdose.
If you're doing heavy physical activity, drink lots of water. If you're sitting on your ass, drink a little water as suits your comfort and your thirst.
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# 7

2008-09-03, 01:45
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Re: x and water
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Originally Posted by JoePedo
Yeah, well...
If you're doing heavy physical activity, drink lots of water. If you're sitting on your ass, drink a little water as suits your comfort and your thirst.
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/thread
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# 8

2008-09-03, 06:20
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Re: x and water
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Originally Posted by JoePedo
Yeah, well...
2. MDMA has no effect on hydration.
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That is true, but MDMA will raise the body temperature, along with pretty much most stimulants out there. And one of the best ways to regulate body temperature is either to keep yourself hydrated enough or to changed your enviroment. But unless you feel like sitting in a meat freezer for the duration of your trip, you really cant change the enviroment to that level of degree. Hydrating yourself is also a safe bet against hyperthermia and hyponatremia(rare, but anything is possible, considering the general shitty quality of xtc pills these days).
I like to think of it as sitting on a beach on a hot day: Sun is shining, your hot, you become thirsty. Now is it a necesity to drink water? No. Will it help cool you off and make you more confortable? Yes.
The whole you must drink water is overrated, but I still say its a safe bet. As he said, if your planning on raving or clubbing, its a good idea to get a good amount of water in you to keep your body in check. But if your sitting around with a couple of your buddies and your girls, commuting with nature or whatever the fuck your doing, the 'water rule' shouldnt really apply. Still it wont hurt to drink a couple bottles of H2O. Better safe then sorry...
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# 9

2008-09-03, 06:47
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Re: x and water
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Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
commuting with nature.........
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I lol'd.
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http://beesafe.goshopper.net/ For all your test reagent needs! Bee Safe! Price dropped.
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# 10

2008-09-03, 06:58
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Re: x and water
Drink water whenever you're thirsty/feel hot. Chew some gum, and have fun.
I think something else that is worth noting is, don't be around people you don't like, or aren't comfortable with. I once rolled with someone who really annoyed me, and it ruined the trip.
I've never had problems, but I know a lot of people who have-- if you get bruxia (tooth-grinding) take a calcium/magnesium supplement. It's best to do it prior to rolling (say a few minutes before you take the roll), but you may or may not need to. I never have, but it will help if you do get tooth grinding. My brother is currently suffering from damage caused by tooth grinding, and it isn't much fun. If you do get it, don't just sit around doing nothing (that's what he did), bite down on something hard, or do anything to minimize the damage. Chewing gum and supplements are your best bet, as stated above. Prevention is better than cure, IMO.
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#11
 2008-09-03, 07:01
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right by the beach
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Re: x and water
And dont drink alchohol (beyond a drink or two.)
Why not? I can never resist drinking.
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#12
 2008-09-03, 07:24
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Ambience 
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Re: x and water
dont drink alchohol (beyond a drink or two.)
i usually drink quite a bit when i drop, just seems to make the trip more enjoyable
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#13
 2008-09-03, 17:01
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Re: x and water
Too much of anything will kill you. Just go into this like it's no big deal, and don't do anything stupid. The worst thing you can do when trying a psychoactive drug for the first time is to overthink it and you end up headtripping yourself into "the bad place." Just take it easy, keep hydrated if you're going to be active, and be with people you know well and can trust.
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#14
 2008-09-03, 17:07
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Re: x and water
i walked up a mountain well a reallly big ass hill like it over looks the whole city and is considered a mountain around here. but yea i did that rolled al night danced etc and realized that i didnt drink any water the whole time these were on the G's up hoes down that rolled thru the U/S last year.
i survived. felt like shit for the next 3 days and was extremly fatigued those days also.
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# 15

2008-09-04, 01:12
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Re: x and water
Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
I lol'd.
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as did i.
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# 16

2008-09-04, 03:46
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Re: x and water
water is fkkkng dank on E but you really don't need to go over board unless, as said, yr dancing hardc0r3
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#17
 2008-09-04, 04:14
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Re: x and water
Why not? I can never resist drinking.
Alcohol dehydrates your body. Theory is adding alcohol while under the influence of MDMA will only furthur dehyrate you. I've never known anybody having a problem with this, but I guess you really never know until something does happen...
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# 18

2008-09-04, 04:46
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Re: x and water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Drink water whenever you're thirsty/feel hot. Chew some gum, and have fun.
I think something else that is worth noting is, don't be around people you don't like, or aren't comfortable with. I once rolled with someone who really annoyed me, and it ruined the trip.
I've never had problems, but I know a lot of people who have-- if you get bruxia (tooth-grinding) take a calcium/magnesium supplement. It's best to do it prior to rolling (say a few minutes before you take the roll), but you may or may not need to. I never have, but it will help if you do get tooth grinding. My brother is currently suffering from damage caused by tooth grinding, and it isn't much fun. If you do get it, don't just sit around doing nothing (that's what he did), bite down on something hard, or do anything to minimize the damage. Chewing gum and supplements are your best bet, as stated above. Prevention is better than cure, IMO.
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would that supplement help if taken before an acid trip? my last trip had me in pain from jaw clenching...
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#19
 2008-09-04, 06:37
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Re: x and water
Find some electro house massive and dance! MDMA + assimilation of the self into the body electric = Well rounded psychedelic adventure.
If you can't do that, try to get some glowsticks/lights and give each other light shows.
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#20
 2008-09-04, 12:27
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Unregistered 
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Re: x and water
would that supplement help if taken before an acid trip? my last trip had me in pain from jaw clenching...
I'd say so. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that if you take a supplement, it's just magically going to go away completely. It will help to either minimize or prevent it. If it doesn't for some weird reason, the supplement won't do you any harm. If you're worried about jaw clenching, I'd recommend a calcium/magnesium supplement (you can get ones with both in them), or whatever you can get your hands on.
Only thing I can't say for sure is how much to take. I'll use one of my larger (heavier) friends as an example. He takes three supplement tablets, and he says it helps him tremendously. So, I don't know, take 1-2 maybe? I'm not sure whether weight would affect it or not.
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# 21

2008-09-04, 12:32
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Re: x and water
just dont be a fuckin retard and not drink water because your "scared" of over hydration. drink about a bottle an hour, two if your doing a lot of physical activity.
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# 22

2008-09-04, 13:14
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Re: x and water
Quote:
Originally Posted by the half unlit
just dont be a fuckin retard and not drink water because your "scared" of over hydration. drink about a bottle an hour, two if your doing a lot of physical activity.
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Not to be an ass (well, slightly to be an ass), but I've never understood... When people say 'drink a bottle every hour' how big is a 'bottle'? Like, is there a particular sized bottle you should use? 
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#23
 2008-09-04, 15:29
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Re: x and water
the body electric
damn good book
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# 24

2008-09-04, 17:54
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Re: x and water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Not to be an ass (well, slightly to be an ass), but I've never understood... When people say 'drink a bottle every hour' how big is a 'bottle'? Like, is there a particular sized bottle you should use? 
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Seriously?
.5L / 1 hour
It isn't an exact science and you don't need to be a fucking brain surgeon to understand what he's saying.
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