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# 1

2008-09-01, 21:40
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Makin' DOC Blotters
Hey guys,
Let's say, hypothetically o'course, that I was putting DOC on blotters (and not tell people it's LSD). Here's my plan.
1 - 7.5" x 7.5" Al pan
1 - 7.5" x 7.5" blotter (900 hits)
1 - gram of DOC
1 - bottle of Everclear
1 - small fan
Steps:
1. Pour 1/4" high of Everclear in pan.
2. Add gram of DOC, stir well.
3. Lay blotter in pan.
4. Allow somewhere where a fan can blow over (not on) pan until dry.
Think this is reasonable? How long do you think it would take to dry?
Last edited by Cuban; 2008-09-01 at 22:37.
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# 2

2008-09-01, 21:48
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The Cosmos
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Honestly I'm not entirely sure on the process, but if you plan on actually selling it as DOC (good man, btw) then why not just put it in capsules? Seems like a lot less work to me, and I think putting it on blotter might waste some product.
Someone might be able to answer your question, but I'm just curious why you don't want to put it in capsules. Is it because you don't have a mg scale?
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# 3

2008-09-01, 21:55
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
My scale only goes to 0.00 g (tens of mg). The most reasonable thing I could do would be 5 mg per capsule, but anything lower would be too difficult to make reliably dosed. Plus, putting on blotter seems to be alot easier with more even dosing because of the dilution.
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# 4

2008-09-01, 22:06
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Anal Terror
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Your asking a question that goes way over the head of the average totse poster.
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# 5

2008-09-01, 22:14
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
There might be someone here able to answer this but if you want some proper replies I might bring this over to Lab Tips
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# 6

2008-09-01, 22:38
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
damn double post
Last edited by Codems; 2008-09-01 at 22:39.
Reason: shitty internets
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# 7

2008-09-01, 22:43
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Sucker Free City
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
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Originally Posted by Codems
There might be someone here able to answer this but if you want some proper replies I might bring this over to Lab Tips
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this would get laughed out of LT.
your process sounds fine, just make sure that your blotter paper is flush with the bottom of the pan otherwise you'll waste some product in liquid below the paper.
i would also use as little alcohol as possible to reduce evap time and mix the DOC into the liquor before putting it in the pan with the blotter.
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#8
 2008-09-01, 23:57
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cr0w 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
1. find out the absorbency of your blotter
2. dissolve DOC in the amount of solvent your blotter can hold
3. lay blotter
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#9
 2008-09-02, 00:11
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Aerogone 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
You are thinking about pouring an unspecified amount of DOC solution on a sheet of blotter paper.
Assuming the pan is perfectly flat, and you succeed.....
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#10
 2008-09-02, 00:37
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
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Originally Posted by Aerogone
You are thinking about pouring an unspecified amount of DOC solution on a sheet of blotter paper.
Assuming the pan is perfectly flat, and you succeed.....
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Unspecified? A gram is not a specified amount?
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#11
 2008-09-02, 01:21
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granny 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Very good write up Cr0w
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#12
 2008-09-02, 03:48
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cid 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
If I was you I'd get a good MG scale and put it in capsules.
I know you said you are going to market it as DOC but eventually in blotter form one the people you get rid of it to is going to try to pass it off as LSD to someone and they are gonna take a couple hits and be pissed when they trip when they trip for 20 hours or more. I'm just speaking from experience, I got sold 4 hits of felix the cat blotter last fall sold to me as LSD and ate 1 and a half of them and tripped for almost 24 hours, just really exhausting and frustrating when you are expecting a 12 hour LSD trip.
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# 13

2008-09-02, 04:04
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Over the Hills and Far Away.
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
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Originally Posted by 4real
Your asking a question that goes way over the head of the average totse poster.
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You kidding me? This is the easiest chemistry you can possibly do. Dissolve in water and put on paper. Damn.
Also, OP, you're most likely going to kill someone. It's not even hard math, just division. 1000mg/x mL gives you mg/mL. Find out how much your paper will absorb(titrate), and adjust x accordingly.
Last edited by Pooter; 2008-09-02 at 04:09.
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# 14

2008-09-02, 05:28
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Beneath a scanner, darkly.
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Calibrate your blotter first, that's the important part. Then dont just dump it in the solution and wait for evap, lay the edge of the blotter paper into the solution, evenly, and the rest on a glass plate. Allow capillary action to do it's thing, if you calibrated it properly you ashould be left with damp paper and no liquid in the tray. Lay the plate flat and allow to evap slowly.
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#15
 2008-09-02, 06:06
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
I'd say a quarter inch is too much; a couple of millimetres would do it and you wouldn't waste time and alcohol.
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#16
 2008-09-02, 15:22
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Why not just sell it as liquid?
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#17
 2008-09-02, 18:54
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Defekt 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
What the fuck is DOC?
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#18
 2008-09-02, 19:03
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cid 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
What the fuck is DOC?
Its a psychedelic amphetamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
Research chemical.
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#19
 2008-09-02, 19:05
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Defekt 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Its a psychedelic amphetamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
Research chemical.
Thank you
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#20
 2008-09-02, 23:47
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
1. 0.50 g of DOC brought to 80 ml solution.
2. Added to 450 blotter hits.
3. Dried and tested.
4. Works.
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#21
 2008-09-03, 01:22
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Death9 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
OK get some ec (might whant to check solubility of doc so you use enough ec), get some type of bottle with a droper, use water to find out how much liquid you need for the amount of doses you want (one or two per it) Then pour out that much ec and and your doc and drop away. Or speend a ton of money on a good scale. If you going to do this often invest in some thing like an oxferd sampler.
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#22
 2008-09-03, 16:54
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LazerChrist 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
Why the fuck does anyone want to touch that shit? I did it once when I was in Boston with some old friends, and all I did was sweat profusely, run all over Southie panting and murmuring, and seeing visions of nearby plants reaching out to kill me with spiky leaf tentacles. Fuck that shit.
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#23
 2008-09-04, 03:27
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Death9 
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
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Originally Posted by LazerChrist
Why the fuck does anyone want to touch that shit? I did it once when I was in Boston with some old friends, and all I did was sweat profusely, run all over Southie panting and murmuring, and seeing visions of nearby plants reaching out to kill me with spiky leaf tentacles. Fuck that shit.
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sounds like you freaked out and had a bad trip.
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#24
 2008-09-04, 15:13
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Re: Makin' DOC Blotters
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Originally Posted by LazerChrist
Why the fuck does anyone want to touch that shit? I did it once when I was in Boston with some old friends, and all I did was sweat profusely, run all over Southie panting and murmuring, and seeing visions of nearby plants reaching out to kill me with spiky leaf tentacles. Fuck that shit.
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Sucks for you. All of my fictional acquaintances love it. Much easier on the head than dob.
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